I will never PVR a game again.

Im traumatized from my first experience.

Two hours of my life I will never get back.

My PVR is clogged anyways. Couldnt put any more shyt on there if I tried.

Completely dominated by old Simpsons episodes and Seinfelds. With a dash of Dumb and dumber and a few Tim Burton Masterpieces.
- vancity787

Tim Burton made a good movie. I was born in 1981 was it before then?

Answer then question is a 3rd liner worth more then a too 4 d man
- Bieksa#3

Answer me this first

Is a 185 pound Dman that will never fight , who makes a hit every third game, not strong enough to move players out from in front of his net, has a soft shot, not a point producer. , and has missed sufficient amount of games over the last two years because of concussions , worth 4-4.5 million per year.

If you didn't know that player and that's his stats , would you pay him that much?

I will never PVR a game again.

Im traumatized from my first experience.

Two hours of my life I will never get back.

My PVR is clogged anyways. Couldnt put any more shyt on there if I tried.

Completely dominated by old Simpsons episodes and Seinfelds. With a dash of Dumb and dumber and a few Tim Burton Masterpieces.
- vancity787

Your experience sounds like it was the bad play of the Canucks that was traumatizing, not the pvr. If it is a crappy game, I just start ffwd'ing and stop it to see if it looks like they are playing any better. It is easier to overlook bad play if you don't actually subject yourself to it.

Maybe that is why I don't think Biega was that bad.

I noticed we haven't talked about Tanev negotiations in a while. I wonder what you guys think hes worth.

Boychuck is not getting anywhere close to 7 mil
- VANTEL

I'm guessing somewhere between 6M-6.5M. 6.5 would be if he hits the open market.

Answer me this first

Is a 185 pound Dman that will never fight , who makes a hit every third game, not strong enough to move players out from in front of his net, has a soft shot, not a point producer. , and has missed sufficient amount of games over the last two years because of concussions , worth 4-4.5 million per year.

If you didn't know that player and that's his stats , would you pay him that much?
- VANTEL

Wondering if this is anything like arbitration?

I'm guessing somewhere between 6M-6.5M. 6.5 would be if he hits the open market.
- Nucker101

I'm guessing 5

Answer me this first

Is a 185 pound Dman that will never fight , who makes a hit every third game, not strong enough to move players out from in front of his net, has a soft shot, not a point producer. , and has missed sufficient amount of games over the last two years because of concussions , worth 4-4.5 million per year.

If you didn't know that player and that's his stats , would you pay him that much?
- VANTEL

Be a use he makes our entire team and everybody he plays with better. His advanced numbers show a d man that is amung the best shutdown defenders in the league.

Now since I asked the question first. A simple yes or no. Would you pay a 3rd line forward more then a top4 defender?

I'm guessing 5
- VANTEL

They paid leddy 5.5 and he's RFA. And any islander fan will tell you johnny is by far their best defender

Answer me this first

Is a 185 pound Dman that will never fight , who makes a hit every third game, not strong enough to move players out from in front of his net, has a soft shot, not a point producer. , and has missed sufficient amount of games over the last two years because of concussions , worth 4-4.5 million per year.

If you didn't know that player and that's his stats , would you pay him that much?
- VANTEL

Those aren't really stats, come on man. If I looked at every Canuck d-mans stats, including hits, age shot blocks, points, competition they face, and goals against when on the ice then yes I would say make sure you keep the guy with Tanev's numbers above the rest of them.

I'm guessing 5
- VANTEL

No way. 5.5M would be a pretty big hometown discount, 5 million is a starting offer.

I'm guessing somewhere between 6M-6.5M. 6.5 would be if he hits the open market.
- Nucker101

Is the salary cap staying where it is at have any impact on these new contracts?

I am guessing agents and players want to keep pushing them up and if it stays in the low 70's for the next few years... I am guessing we will see another work stoppage.

have to stop guessing.

No way.
- Nucker101

Franson at 5.5 and Boychuck at 5. Is down up and black white because its bizarro world

Just answer the question. And he's 31.
- Bieksa#3

I did those all explain why it is a bad comparison. He is having a horrible season but that I figured was just because he is just getting old. Never realized he was that young as he has played a lot of seasons. But why on earth would you compare a 31 yr old that is having the worst season of his career that has played 13 NHL seasons. Man give your head a shake

Kind of makes you yearn for the week prior to TDL.
- Marwood

Yes, just so we could trade Matthias and avoid this discussion.

Tim Burton made a good movie. I was born in 1981 was it before then?
- Bieksa#3

If you dont like Beetlejuice or Edward scssorhands. Well I just dont know what to say.

And nightmare before Christmas? C'mon. Classics.

Be a use he makes our entire team and everybody he plays with better. His advanced numbers show a d man that is amung the best shutdown defenders in the league.

Now since I asked the question first. A simple yes or no. Would you pay a 3rd line forward more then a top4 defender?
- Bieksa#3

I would pay Mathias his 3.5

He is a forward , paid to score goals , he did his job.

He is a better centre than the current second line Centre.

He has more goals than the current 2 nd line LHF

Canucks have a history of playing players out of position

Kassian 9 goals first line, Vrbata 23 goals second line.

Matthias has the second most goals on the team , I pay him 3.5 and take my chances

I did those all explain why it is a bad comparison. He is having a horrible season but that I figured was just because he is just getting old. Never realized he was that young as he has played a lot of seasons. But why on earth would you compare a 31 yr old that is having the worst season of his career that has played 13 NHL seasons. Man give your head a shake
- SMP8719

All you've done is name call. What is it that he does that makes him better. He doesn't get pts.

I would pay Mathias his 3.5

He is a forward , paid to score goals , he did his job.

He is a better centre than the current second line Centre.

He has more goals than the current 2 nd line LHF

Canucks have a history of playing players out of position

Kassian 9 goals first line, Vrbata 23 goals second line.

Matthias has the second most goals on the team , I pay him 3.5 and take my chances
- VANTEL

You game for my bet on boychuck?

I would pay Mathias his 3.5

He is a forward , paid to score goals , he did his job.

He is a better centre than the current second line Centre.

He has more goals than the current 2 nd line LHF

Canucks have a history of playing players out of position

Kassian 9 goals first line, Vrbata 23 goals second line.

Matthias has the second most goals on the team , I pay him 3.5 and take my chances
- VANTEL

Stop avoiding the question yes or no

Those aren't really stats, come on man. If I looked at every Canuck d-mans stats, including hits, age shot blocks, points, competition they face, and goals against when on the ice then yes I would say make sure you keep the guy with Tanev's numbers above the rest of them.
- Nucker101

No they really are stats go look them up

Stop avoiding the question yes or no
- Bieksa#3

What part of yes I would pay him did you miss?

If you dont like Beetlejuice or Edward scssorhands. Well I just dont know what to say.

And nightmare before Christmas? C'mon. Classics.
- vancity787

What part of yes I would pay him did you miss?
- VANTEL

We gonna bet on boychuck?

We gonna bet on boychuck?
- Bieksa#3

I'll keep the bet on Ehlers beating MDC next year