Corsi and Fenwick are proxies for possession, i.e. you have to have the puck in order to get shot attempts. And get it back for more shot attempts.
- Zezel

I understand the theory, but it's not necessarily accurate. I prefer if my players take quality shot attempts but this doesn't come into effect in corsi. A dump in from centre counts. A dman firing picks wildly and missing the net counts. If that puck rebounds out to the other. Dman and he does the same thing it counts.

Being datsuyk, stealing the puck, controlling it and going in on net for a highlight reel goal counts exactly the same as my exaggerated examples above.

Adv stats are useful but be aware of their severe limitations.

I understand the theory, but it's not necessarily accurate. I prefer if my players take quality shot attempts but this doesn't come into effect in corsi. A dump in from centre counts. A dman firing picks wildly and missing the net counts. If that puck rebounds out to the other. Dman and he does the same thing it counts.

Being datsuyk, stealing the puck, controlling it and going in on net for a highlight reel goal counts exactly the same as my exaggerated examples above.

Adv stats are useful but be aware of their severe limitations.
- Allan Bester

Sure, you have to use all of the different stats in context. I wouldn't look just at corsi and fenwick in isolation of everything else.

A childhood of watching the Canadiens taught him how to fall down properly.

I bet you that he can dial 9-1-1 faster than any other guy on the Leafs
- lumlums

I hope you pick 5th in the draft..

I understand the theory, but it's not necessarily accurate. I prefer if my players take quality shot attempts but this doesn't come into effect in corsi. A dump in from centre counts. A dman firing picks wildly and missing the net counts. If that puck rebounds out to the other. Dman and he does the same thing it counts.

Being datsuyk, stealing the puck, controlling it and going in on net for a highlight reel goal counts exactly the same as my exaggerated examples above.

Adv stats are useful but be aware of their severe limitations.
- Allan Bester

Interestingly enough Datsyuk is a Corsi monster. Possession is nearly 60/40 in his teams favour when he's on the ice.

Interestingly enough Datsyuk is a Corsi monster. Possession is nearly 60/40 in his teams favour when he's on the ice.
- daeth

I noticed in general Detroit's got some good possession numbers...one of the reasons I like them as a bet in the playoffs.

Interestingly enough Datsyuk is a Corsi monster. Possession is nearly 60/40 in his teams favour when he's on the ice.
- daeth

One of the best two way players ever! He will rank high in every stat category that exists or gets created in the future.

Wait, how is he at fighting? Can't be worse than Semin!

One of the best two way players ever! He will rank high in every stat category that exists or gets created in the future.

Wait, how is he at fighting? Can't be worse than Semin!
- Allan Bester

He beat up Perry...

He beat up Perry...
- AdamFrench

I noticed in general Detroit's got some good possession numbers...one of the reasons I like them as a bet in the playoffs.
- Zezel

But their goaltending is lacking. Howard can be real bad sometimes and Gustavsson, we know all about that.

I noticed in general Detroit's got some good possession numbers...one of the reasons I like them as a bet in the playoffs.
- Zezel

LA
Detroit
Chicago
Tampa
Islanders

that's the top 5 for 5 on 5 possession #'s. makes you wonder what's going on in LA. a below average PP and PK likely aren't helping

He beat up Perry...
- AdamFrench

How many sons does he have?

One of the best two way players ever! He will rank high in every stat category that exists or gets created in the future.

Wait, how is he at fighting? Can't be worse than Semin!
- Allan Bester

It's a bit of a boring discussion I guess but if he was born in Canada he'd get a lot more credit. People are all over Toews but Datsyuk is better in every single way.

LA
Detroit
Chicago
Tampa
Islanders

that's the top 5 for 5 on 5 possession #'s. makes you wonder what's going on in LA. a below average PP and PK likely aren't helping
- daeth

Meh, LA has done this for a few years now, they are so good they just do what they have to do to get in... NYI vs LA SCF...

How many sons does he have?
- JohnFergusonJr

Not enough!

Meh, LA has done this for a few years now, they are so good they just do what they have to do to get in... NYI vs LA SCF...
- aminnes

They may very well miss the playoffs this time though.

Not enough!
- AdamFrench

I see what u did.......

They may very well miss the playoffs this time though.
- daeth

I'm thinking no... They get in...

But their goaltending is lacking. Howard can be real bad sometimes and Gustavsson, we know all about that.
- JohnFergusonJr

Yeah they'll need Howard to step up, and if he gets hurt and Monster's in net obviously you can forget about them.

Oilers starting Bachman (GAA 6.15, Sv% 8.52) versus Canes.

Oilers starting Bachman (GAA 6.15, Sv% 8.52) versus Canes.


- Canada Cup

he's due for a shutout

3 of LAs last 8 are against Edmonton....

3 of LAs last 8 are against Edmonton....
- aminnes

Just look at Arizona's schedule. They might not win another game all season.

3 of LAs last 8 are against Edmonton....
- aminnes

@ vancouver
vs nashville
@ anaheim
vs vancouver
@ rangers
@ islanders
@ minnesota
@ chicago
@ vancouver
@ calgary

lots of games vs playoff teams remaining, mostly on the road too where they've been absolutely horrible (10-14-6)