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Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Mar 5 @ 4:42 PM ET
7+ goals a season is why you'd expect from 3rd line.
- Retinalz


He plays the power play and is on the 2nd line. I expect more from Higgins, as should you.
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Mar 5 @ 4:45 PM ET
Higgins sucks. If he wasn't a glue guy, good along the boards and a great teammate, he'd be out of the nhl.
- Scooby_Doo


Fine, play him on the 4th line and quit wasting the top 6 minutes he is getting
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 4:47 PM ET
Fine, play him on the 4th line and quit wasting the top 6 minutes he is getting
- PetrolSexual


Yeah, I have a bigger issue with his deployment than I do with the actual player. Not sure why WD continues to trot him out there on the PP and I'd also limit his minutes in situations where the team needs a goal. My reasoning is that he's a good possession player but typically teams trailing in the game tend to when the possession battle anyway, at that point you want to play more of your better shooters and more efficient scorers rather than a guy like Higgins who's more suited to protect a lead.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 5 @ 4:48 PM ET
He plays the power play and is on the 2nd line. I expect more from Higgins, as should you.
- Scooby_Doo

Higgins has 34 career PP goals, 29 of those were with Mont. so 5 pp goals in 7 years, don't expect to much.
EastVan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 01.07.2015

Mar 5 @ 4:48 PM ET
Nucks are 11th in goals for per game but it's a negative that this team has spread out it's scoring? I don't understand.
- belcherbd


It's good that the scoring is spread out, but it would be good to have a consistent second line/second PP unit and a bit more contribution from the defense.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 4:48 PM ET
He plays the power play and is on the 2nd line. I expect more from Higgins, as should you.
- Scooby_Doo


Hes always been a depth guy, 3rd line as his peak (you don't acquire top 6 talent/potential for a 3rd rounder) but the "chemistry" he had with Kesler made people think otherwise. Its about time we put him back where he belongs
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Mar 5 @ 4:50 PM ET
How many teams in the history have had 4th lines combining to get 21 goals a season?
Some seasons you get a rookie that comes in and starts doing this, but they often make it up the lines when playing well. 4th liners are not meant to score, they are meant to give the 1st/2nd line a break and not get scored on.

- Retinalz


This used to be the plan, but now a days without an enforcer many teams included the Canucks are basically dressing a second 3rd line instead of a 4th Line.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 5 @ 4:50 PM ET
Hes always been a depth guy, 3rd line as his peak (you don't acquire top 6 talent/potential for a 3rd rounder) but the "chemistry" he had with Kesler made people think otherwise. Its about time we put him back where he belongs
- WhiteLie

NY
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Mar 5 @ 4:51 PM ET
Hes always been a depth guy, 3rd line as his peak (you don't acquire top 6 talent/potential for a 3rd rounder) but the "chemistry" he had with Kesler made people think otherwise. Its about time we put him back where he belongs
- WhiteLie


Higgins and Bonino are the two worst skaters on the team. Put them with Dorsett and call that the fourth line. At least then our expectations would be lowered.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 5 @ 4:55 PM ET
He plays the power play and is on the 2nd line. I expect more from Higgins, as should you.
- Scooby_Doo


Maybe you haven't noticed that this team has 1 1st and 3rds. After the top 4 guys Sedin Sedin Vrbata and Bonino, the next 7 players are separated by 30 sec of average ice time 5 on 5.

Higgins likely shouldn't be on the PP but he is 7th on the team in regards to pp ice time.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 4:55 PM ET
It's good that the scoring is spread out, but it would be good to have a consistent second line/second PP unit and a bit more contribution from the defense.
- EastVan


I wonder how the distribution of Canuck goals across the 4 lines is in comparison to other teams... I am willing to bet we are in the top 10 for 1st and 4th line scoring, middle of the pack for 3rd, and dead last for 2nd line scoring
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Mar 5 @ 5:00 PM ET
Maybe you haven't noticed that this team has 1 1st and 3rds. After the top 4 guys Sedin Sedin Vrbata and Bonino, the next 7 players are separated by 30 sec of average ice time 5 on 5.

Higgins likely shouldn't be on the PP but he is 7th on the team in regards to pp ice time.

- belcherbd


I don't watch the Canucks games, I just come here and talk poop.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 5:01 PM ET
Maybe you haven't noticed that this team has 1 1st and 3rds. After the top 4 guys Sedin Sedin Vrbata and Bonino, the next 7 players are separated by 30 sec of average ice time 5 on 5.

Higgins likely shouldn't be on the PP but he is 7th on the team in regards to pp ice time.

- belcherbd


Yeah, there really isn't an actual "2nd line" in terms of ice time on this team so anyone complaining about Higgins getting top 6 minutes doesn't really understand that.

But he shouldn't be even getting a sniff of any PP time, the 2nd unit has been a joke and a guy with a sh% as low as him makes little sense to have out there. What makes him so valuable is his possession play but the PP is all about what the player can actually do with possession since usually gaining control of the puck isn't the issue. Guys wit higher shooting %'s like Bonino, Kassian, Vey, Horvat, Kenins, Matthias, etc all make more sense than having Higgins out there.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 5 @ 5:01 PM ET
I don't watch the Canucks games, I just come here and talk poop.
- Scooby_Doo

belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 5 @ 5:01 PM ET
I don't watch the Canucks games, I just come here and talk poop.
- Scooby_Doo

lol, no doubt at least I know you troll everyone equally.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 5 @ 5:09 PM ET
I don't watch the Canucks games, I just come here and talk poop.
- Scooby_Doo

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Mar 5 @ 5:25 PM ET
Yeah, there really isn't an actual "2nd line" in terms of ice time on this team so anyone complaining about Higgins getting top 6 minutes doesn't really understand that.

But he shouldn't be even getting a sniff of any PP time, the 2nd unit has been a joke and a guy with a sh% as low as him makes little sense to have out there. What makes him so valuable is his possession play but the PP is all about what the player can actually do with possession since usually gaining control of the puck isn't the issue. Guys wit higher shooting %'s like Bonino, Kassian, Vey, Horvat, Kenins, Matthias, etc all make more sense than having Higgins out there.

- Nucker101


Though they may be wanting to keep him off of it so when they resign him he has 20 goals not 30
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Mar 5 @ 5:32 PM ET

Though they may be wanting to keep him off of it so when they resign him he has 20 goals not 30

- Retinalz



I think these are they types of issues a GM wants to have.
JMD007
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.27.2013

Mar 5 @ 5:32 PM ET
Bet Kassian had the Roxy Flu after a fun night out after learning he wasn't traded (E4)

AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 5 @ 5:33 PM ET
Erat-Chipchura-Doan

Rieder-Arcobello-Gagner

Korpikoski-Cunningham-Moss

McGinn-Vitale-Crombeen

Arizona's apparent lineup for tonight, Buffalos lineup was better, there should be no reason we lose this one.

- phyllee


That is atrocious. Something is seriously (frank)ed up in this league when teams need to ice such lineups in order to improve in the future.
JMD007
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.27.2013

Mar 5 @ 5:35 PM ET
That is atrocious. Something is seriously (frank)ed up in this league when teams need to ice such lineups in order to improve in the future.
- AlexF


Yikes! Chipchura as the first line center, he was waived earlier this season. Toronto thinks they have issues at center ice!
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Mar 5 @ 5:40 PM ET

I think these are they types of issues a GM wants to have.

- hillbillydeluxe

Not when you can't afford 4mil for a 30 goal scorer
EastVan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 01.07.2015

Mar 5 @ 5:41 PM ET
Yikes! Chipchura as the first line center, he was waived earlier this season. Toronto thinks they have issues at center ice!
- JMD007


All 4 of our lines tonight have more goals than their first line.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 5 @ 5:43 PM ET
All 4 of our lines tonight have more goals than their first line.
- EastVan

And yet Canuck fans continue to complain
stevekariya
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Gaud's Plan, BC
Joined: 09.19.2014

Mar 5 @ 5:46 PM ET
Yikes! Chipchura as the first line center, he was waived earlier this season. Toronto thinks they have issues at center ice!
- JMD007

All four lines contain a player that was waived this season (Chipchura, Arcobello, Cunningham, McGinn)
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