Fixed....
- HAs_Revenge

i wonder if we could rig a crossbow to shoot dildos at him while he slides around???

I'd be recording it and starting my own thread called Hockeybuzz's Funniest Home Videos

What would Brian Boitono do???
- Iloveeveryone

What would Brian boitono do if he were here today.... he probably kick an ass or too that's what Brian boitono would do...

i wonder if we could rig a crossbow to shoot dildos at him while he slides around???
- Iloveeveryone

I bet it could be done......

Heightened emotions can certainly impede ones ability to think logically. In some instances. And under certain contexts.

But this doesn't decrease the fact that emotion is present in every decision we make whether one is female or male. And is certainly NOT an indication of mental weakness as our brilliant friend Alex tried to sell.
If you're without emotion you are no more rational or logical. You're a psychopath or a robot or as NIH put so well, a vulcan.
and shouldn't suggest the most logical decisions can't be made under the most emotional circumstances.

Emotions also allows us to interpret between cultural norms of right and wrong and understand why we make the decisions we do.

I'll get my cultural geography professor to hook me up with a link or the address to his PowerPoint. I see him all the time. It all just occurred to me when Alex made his laughable reference to psychology. And that I just learnt a bunch of this sh1 t last semester
- Ihateallofu

There have been a few psychopaths/sociopaths in our time who would be considered very highly intellectual and use logic, hence playing their game for so long without being caught. I totally agree that Alex was being a douche with he showing emotions means a person is weak mentally, that is just idiocy. Not to go full nerd here but Vulcan's actually have a lot of emotions, they just learn to suppress them and keep them in check. One does not require emotions to think logically. It is however, highly likely that a person in a heightened emotional state of fear, anger or grief, cannot make the best rational/logical decisions, as compared to being in a state of being emotionally in check. Either way Alex Oil is a douche for saying what he did though.

There have been a few psychopaths/sociopaths in our time who would be considered very highly intellectual and use logic, hence playing their game for so long without being caught. I totally agree that Alex was being a douche with he showing emotions means a person is weak mentally, that is just idiocy. Not to go full nerd here but Vulcan's actually have a lot of emotions, they just learn to suppress them and keep them in check. One does not require emotions to think logically. It is however, highly likely that a person in a heightened emotional state of fear, anger or grief, cannot make the best rational/logical decisions, as compared to being in a state of being emotionally in check. Either way Alex Oil is a douche for saying what he did though.
- ruttager17

shut up you trekky ginger

I bet it could be done......
- HAs_Revenge

Think Jero would hook us up? i hear he buys them in bulk

i wonder if we could rig a crossbow to shoot dildos at him while he slides around???
- Iloveeveryone

Hmmmmm, I wonder what that giant douche(frank)ingcanoetard Ihatebrianburke was banned for? Also great debut for Petry.

shut up you trekky ginger
- Iloveeveryone

Not really a Trekky, just pointing out that NIH's comparison was wrong.

Think Jero would hook us up? i hear he buys them in bulk
- Iloveeveryone

Yep.... I'm sure between him, Iggy and rutts we would have a poop ton of ammo....

There have been a few psychopaths/sociopaths in our time who would be considered very highly intellectual and use logic, hence playing their game for so long without being caught. I totally agree that Alex was being a douche with he showing emotions means a person is weak mentally, that is just idiocy. Not to go full nerd here but Vulcan's actually have a lot of emotions, they just learn to suppress them and keep them in check. One does not require emotions to think logically. It is however, highly likely that a person in a heightened emotional state of fear, anger or grief, cannot make the best rational/logical decisions, as compared to being in a state of being emotionally in check. Either way Alex Oil is a douche for saying what he did though.
- ruttager17

Why.... why do you always.... (frank)ing always got to be right....

Why.... why do you always.... (frank)ing always got to be right....
- HAs_Revenge

It's just a discussion Brobocop. Plus it's an area of Psychology that is pretty much a pseudoscience so several right answers.....I just wanna see the (frank)ing study he was talking about ok.

Hmmmmm, I wonder what that giant douche(frank)ingcanoetard Ihatebrianburke was banned for? Also great debut for Petry.
- ruttager17

i heard he was working hard in the trenches trolling the leafs

i heard he was working hard in the trenches trolling the leafs
- Iloveeveryone

Well I am not sure how he got banned....I mean he was such a pleasant, politically correct fellow.

It's just a discussion Brobocop. Plus it's an area of Psychology that is pretty much a pseudoscience so several right answers.....I just wanna see the (frank)ing study he was talking about ok.
- ruttager17

Dude.... brobocop. .... that made me lol....

There have been a few psychopaths/sociopaths in our time who would be considered very highly intellectual and use logic, hence playing their game for so long without being caught. I totally agree that Alex was being a douche with he showing emotions means a person is weak mentally, that is just idiocy. Not to go full nerd here but Vulcan's actually have a lot of emotions, they just learn to suppress them and keep them in check. One does not require emotions to think logically. It is however, highly likely that a person in a heightened emotional state of fear, anger or grief, cannot make the best rational/logical decisions, as compared to being in a state of being emotionally in check. Either way Alex Oil is a douche for saying what he did though.
- ruttager17

this is the misconception. thinking and feeling aren't mutually exclusive like we've been taught by so many old schoolers. namely those that espouse to think rational one must focus on reason and eliminate emotion/ no. theyre completely intertwined.

emotions cant just be turned on and off. they originate unconsciously. but we can choose our conscious response logically and rationally. those that are viewed as being rational decision makers are also having an emotional response to something.

now we're starting to get philosophical, but essentially thats what consciousness is, rational reflections and interpretation.
in fact, if we feel there is a rational reason behind doing something, this will actually makes us feel more emotionally compliant. and by that I mean, the most rational responses can originate in the most emotional circumstances

and while we don't completely disagree, but maybe you wanted to more see a caveat to my comment, I will say that cognitive and behavioural science are not pseudo sciences. theyre interdisciplinary for sure, but are nonetheless backed up with solid models


I don't watch star trek

this is the misconception. thinking and feeling aren't mutually exclusive like we've been taught by so many old schoolers. namely those that espouse to think rational one must focus on reason and eliminate emotion/ no. theyre completely intertwined.

emotions cant just be turned on and off. they originate unconsciously. but we can choose our conscious response logically and rationally. those that are viewed as being rational decision makers are also having an emotional response to something.

now we're starting to get philosophical, but essentially thats what consciousness is, rational reflections and interpretation.
in fact, if we feel there is a rational reason behind doing something, this will actually makes us feel more emotionally compliant. and by that I mean, the most rational responses can originate in the most emotional circumstances

and while we don't completely disagree, but maybe you wanted to more see a caveat to my comment, I will say that cognitive and behavioural science are not pseudo sciences. theyre interdisciplinary for sure, but are nonetheless backed up with solid models


I don't watch star trek
- Ihateallofu

In response to them being intertwined, I would have to point out that the areas of the brain responsible for emotions/emotional behavior (hypothalamus, amygdala) are different from those involving thinking, learning, memory - the cerebrum, and the cerebral cortex. There disorders affecting some areas of the brain, and not others. Our use of logic and reasoning is based more in the learning/memory centers of our brain, than they are in the emotional centers. Hang around people with Alzheimer's and Dementia for a while and you will see the difference.

Exactly my point. And for example, fear can cause one to be in a state of dissociation, thus making it impossible for them to make rational/logical decisions. Paramedics/first responders are a perfect example of not letting emotions effect their decision making abilities in a tense, crisis situation. These are people that do not let the situation/emotions lead to a state of anxiety, causing a cascade of catecholamine release, leading to decreased ability to use critical thinking and problem solving abilities.

Although many areas of Psychology have been proven using the scientific method, there are still several areas that have yet to be tested the same over and over again, and getting the same results. Hence being somewhat of a pseudoscience, again not in all areas, but if it cannot be proven, then it is still just in the hypothesis/theory stage.

I understand the trade. I think MacT could have done more. If Sekeras is worth a first round pick and a decent prospect then MacT should have been able to get more than a late second and a nothing pick. In his first year he traded 5 picks into 10 and missed out on some amazing players. Petan among the top of that list. A player that was top 5 in CHL points for that draft and was passed on because MacT only wanted guys that were 2 inches taller. Only a small fraction of Oiler fans can name even one player he took with his extra 5 picks.

I have no reason to think that he won't do it again. The top 60 is deep and if he used his 4 picks or made 2 into a better one, then I would be impressed. If he passes on players ranked to go during his picks. Names like Jake DeBrusk, Brandon Carlo, Filip Chlapik, Ryan Pilon and of course Andrew Mangiapane who for all accounts is this years Petan. These guys added with a top 3 pick this year could make the team playoff contenders in two years and cup contenders in 5. There is no part of me that thinks he won't mess this up like he did the last two drafts.

I said it when he was a coach and the second he became GM. MacT has to go. I know some people on here have a hard on for him but he is by far the worst part of this club.

I understand the trade. I think MacT could have done more. If Sekeras is worth a first round pick and a decent prospect then MacT should have been able to get more than a late second and a nothing pick. In his first year he traded 5 picks into 10 and missed out on some amazing players. Petan among the top of that list. A player that was top 5 in CHL points for that draft and was passed on because MacT only wanted guys that were 2 inches taller. Only a small fraction of Oiler fans can name even one player he took with his extra 5 picks.

I have no reason to think that he won't do it again. The top 60 is deep and if he used his 4 picks or made 2 into a better one, then I would be impressed. If he passes on players ranked to go during his picks. Names like Jake DeBrusk, Brandon Carlo, Filip Chlapik, Ryan Pilon and of course Andrew Mangiapane who for all accounts is this years Petan. These guys added with a top 3 pick this year could make the team playoff contenders in two years and cup contenders in 5. There is no part of me that thinks he won't mess this up like he did the last two drafts.

I said it when he was a coach and the second he became GM. MacT has to go. I know some people on here have a hard on for him but he is by far the worst part of this club.
- Hall Fan

I understand where you're coming from but I'm guessing that MacT trusted his scouting department. The plan was to draft either Monahan or Nurse with the first round pick. He had 2 second rounders and probably had his scouts telling him that there were a few players in the third that were what they wanted so he flipped one 2nd rounder for a 3rd and a 4th rounder. Petan is looking good but at the time Marco Roy was drafted most experts claimed he should have been a first round pick and were shocked he fell, he ran into concussion problems but seems to be getting back on track.

The third round picks turned into Yakimov and Slepyshev who are both playing professional hockey already and are among Edmonton's top prospects, not many players from that 3rd round can say that they are pros yet.

Then the 4th to 6th rounds are a crap shoot at this point but in the 7th round they drafted Chase who has already earned a pro contract and is tracking very well. This could very well end being a draft that defines MacTavish's tenure with the Oilers.

I mean go ahead and rip on MacT, but don't rip on MacT for a draft that is only 2 years old and thus far too early to tell if the prospects will pan out. Especially when said draft is actually tracking very well.

Brainbuzz?

I understand where you're coming from but I'm guessing that MacT trusted his scouting department. The plan was to draft either Monahan or Nurse with the first round pick. He had 2 second rounders and probably had his scouts telling him that there were a few players in the third that were what they wanted so he flipped one 2nd rounder for a 3rd and a 4th rounder. Petan is looking good but at the time Marco Roy was drafted most experts claimed he should have been a first round pick and were shocked he fell, he ran into concussion problems but seems to be getting back on track.

The third round picks turned into Yakimov and Slepyshev who are both playing professional hockey already and are among Edmonton's top prospects, not many players from that 3rd round can say that they are pros yet.

Then the 4th to 6th rounds are a crap shoot at this point but in the 7th round they drafted Chase who has already earned a pro contract and is tracking very well. This could very well end being a draft that defines MacTavish's tenure with the Oilers.

I mean go ahead and rip on MacT, but don't rip on MacT for a draft that is only 2 years old and thus far too early to tell if the prospects will pan out. Especially when said draft is actually tracking very well.
- Dangles13

I agree that Yakimov and Slepyshev might be good. They might also decide to go back to Russia despite the fact that they came to NA at all. I was under the impression some people thought they might stay in the KHL. So there is hope. Still Petan's numbers are hard to ignore for any scouts. 120 pts in 71 regular season games. 28 pts in 21 playoff games the year he was drafted. Few in the top 10 even came close to these. Say all you want about Oliver's consistent 50-60 pts per season but Petan was a sure thing. Even Comrie would have been hard to pass on knowing the surplus of talented rookie tenders the Oilers have in the system.

We do agree that everything picked after round three was really just pointless. Gambles where few pay off. Maybe the scouting staff is to blame. Still it was an epic fail. So has most of his actions since. Best thing he did to date was trade for Perron. Luckily we got a late first round pick for our top goal scorer. Just seems like this rebuild of 5 years as he was quoted in his first press conference has gone on a little long. Add that to the fact that he recently said that the team was right where they wanted to be with their timeline rebuilding. I am sorry but Boston is talking about firing their GM if they don't make the playoffs. Our management is looking at a 10-11 year rebuild at best? Seems odd to anyone but us Oiler fans.

Brainbuzz?
- batjester

bunch of poindexters.

I agree that Yakimov and Slepyshev might be good. They might also decide to go back to Russia despite the fact that they came to NA at all. I was under the impression some people thought they might stay in the KHL. So there is hope. Still Petan's numbers are hard to ignore for any scouts. 120 pts in 71 regular season games. 28 pts in 21 playoff games the year he was drafted. Few in the top 10 even came close to these. Say all you want about Oliver's consistent 50-60 pts per season but Petan was a sure thing. Even Comrie would have been hard to pass on knowing the surplus of talented rookie tenders the Oilers have in the system.

We do agree that everything picked after round three was really just pointless. Gambles where few pay off. Maybe the scouting staff is to blame. Still it was an epic fail. So has most of his actions since. Best thing he did to date was trade for Perron. Luckily we got a late first round pick for our top goal scorer. Just seems like this rebuild of 5 years as he was quoted in his first press conference has gone on a little long. Add that to the fact that he recently said that the team was right where they wanted to be with their timeline rebuilding. I am sorry but Boston is talking about firing their GM if they don't make the playoffs. Our management is looking at a 10-11 year rebuild at best? Seems odd to anyone but us Oiler fans.
- Hall Fan

So a player who was passed on 42 times and has yet to play an NHL game is a surefire thing? Epic fail? Why?

I understand the trade. I think MacT could have done more. If Sekeras is worth a first round pick and a decent prospect then MacT should have been able to get more than a late second and a nothing pick. In his first year he traded 5 picks into 10 and missed out on some amazing players. Petan among the top of that list. A player that was top 5 in CHL points for that draft and was passed on because MacT only wanted guys that were 2 inches taller. Only a small fraction of Oiler fans can name even one player he took with his extra 5 picks.

I have no reason to think that he won't do it again. The top 60 is deep and if he used his 4 picks or made 2 into a better one, then I would be impressed. If he passes on players ranked to go during his picks. Names like Jake DeBrusk, Brandon Carlo, Filip Chlapik, Ryan Pilon and of course Andrew Mangiapane who for all accounts is this years Petan. These guys added with a top 3 pick this year could make the team playoff contenders in two years and cup contenders in 5. There is no part of me that thinks he won't mess this up like he did the last two drafts.

I said it when he was a coach and the second he became GM. MacT has to go. I know some people on here have a hard on for him but he is by far the worst part of this club.
- Hall Fan

The worst part about this club is reading your posts! Why do you even bother? The way this team is structured we dont't need any more small forwards. If Nic Petan is so great then why oh why great Steinley is he still in the WHL? Especially when you're saying all these draft picks should turn us into a playoff team in 2 years. Seems to me he got drafted 2 years ago and hasn't even made the NHL let alone become an impact player. I would have taken Comrie or Jarry way before Petan ever entered into my mind. The fact is that cupboards were bare and we needed some organizational depth. You're gonna look even stupider when Yakimov and Slepyshev are both on our club playing two way hockey, while Petan is struggling to break into the league because he's 5'9 and a one trick pony. The 4th rounders we picked up were decent picks to, and as most 4th rounders are, longterm projects. Same with Roy. Can you please just stop posting on this site? I really don't know where you come up this drivel but just stop.

I understand where you're coming from but I'm guessing that MacT trusted his scouting department. The plan was to draft either Monahan or Nurse with the first round pick. He had 2 second rounders and probably had his scouts telling him that there were a few players in the third that were what they wanted so he flipped one 2nd rounder for a 3rd and a 4th rounder. Petan is looking good but at the time Marco Roy was drafted most experts claimed he should have been a first round pick and were shocked he fell, he ran into concussion problems but seems to be getting back on track.

The third round picks turned into Yakimov and Slepyshev who are both playing professional hockey already and are among Edmonton's top prospects, not many players from that 3rd round can say that they are pros yet.

Then the 4th to 6th rounds are a crap shoot at this point but in the 7th round they drafted Chase who has already earned a pro contract and is tracking very well. This could very well end being a draft that defines MacTavish's tenure with the Oilers.

I mean go ahead and rip on MacT, but don't rip on MacT for a draft that is only 2 years old and thus far too early to tell if the prospects will pan out. Especially when said draft is actually tracking very well.
- Dangles13

But draft picks should turn us into a playoff team in 2 years and a cup contender in 5?

Brainbuzz?
- batjester

Brainkill