actually we went after a lot of C's this offseason, stated his intentions to do so, and did. But it's his fault they said no?

Classic
- SpoiledByOil

he sounds like the geniuses that blame obama for the US economic, foreign and at home issues, quickly forgetting that a complete (frank)ing donkey named bush was the reason of most of the root issues.

or like all the dumb fu cks that blame transfer payments to the east on the fact alberta has no money ( admittedly i like the transfer payment comparison)

Was wideman a "big name"? No. Yet he was available, and Calgary picked him up. I seem to recall many here saying he was worthless, yet he's had a great season with the flames.

I'm not sure I can spell it out any simpler for you. Let me try it in bold:
The oilers suck at asset management and that is an indictment of the management.

Let me know if I've used too many big words.
- NEEDSMORHORCOFF

So the flames took a chance on Wideman and hit a homer. We took a chance on Niki... we didnt. Can't win them all.

haha Mark Spector is such a turd burglar

Was wideman a "big name"? No. Yet he was available, and Calgary picked him up. I seem to recall many here saying he was worthless, yet he's had a great season with the flames.

I'm not sure I can spell it out any simpler for you. Let me try it in bold:
The oilers suck at asset management and that is an indictment of the management.

Let me know if I've used too many big words.
- NEEDSMORHORCOFF

Settle down. youre not convincing us that your right....just a blow hard moron.....on second thought...continue.

him
- SpoiledByOil

So the flames took a chance on Wideman and hit a homer. We took a chance on Niki... we didnt. Can't win them all.
- Oilfan19

Exactly....Dont sign any washed up players unless you are certain in year 2 of their contracts they will bounce back.

Was wideman a "big name"? No. Yet he was available, and Calgary picked him up. I seem to recall many here saying he was worthless, yet he's had a great season with the flames.

I'm not sure I can spell it out any simpler for you. Let me try it in bold:
The oilers suck at asset management and that is an indictment of the management.

Let me know if I've used too many big words.
- NEEDSMORHORCOFF

you have a link to to the oilers or wideman stating unequivocally that we didnt try and sign or contact him?


good post though. no really.

What?

No seriously, what the hell is your point? Did you read my 4 point argument above? I thought it was pretty clear?

I admitted that Petry might have wanted to go elsewhere. I would want to do the same if I was treated the same way he was. At what point did I say giving Petry a huge contract was the answer?

I'll tell you what isn't the answer: Trading your best defenseman that you've spent 9 years developing for a 2nd rounder and a conditional 5th right as he hits his prime.

Is Petry a #1/2? No. Did I claim he was? No. Is Nikitin worth 4.5 million? What about Ference? Good asset management means management is cognizant of what assets it has, and builds accordingly. Petry is worth 4.5 on a 4 or even 5 year deal (certainly was last summer). It didn't take a genius to see that Nikitin was NOT worth that money.

So while I don't view Petry being retained as the ANSWER to all the oilers woes, I certainly view it as a step in the right direction. We just took one of the thinnest blue lines in the NHL and made it worse, for draft picks (and poopty picks at that). I'm not sure how that equates to good asset management in anyones mind. Mind you, it's hockeybuzz. I should be used to it by now.
- NEEDSMORHORCOFF

So you are saying management overpayed for those players, and you wanted them to overpay for Petry? He hasn't done (frank) all to earn a big contract so basically you want them to keep him just because he was their best dman (the best of a pile of crap isn't very good) and are pissed about the return saying it's bad management? How is the fact petry isn't that good, and not worth much management's fault? If he is in his prime as you say then they didn't lose out on a guy who has peaked.

Settle down. youre not convincing us that your right....just a blow hard moron.....on second thought...continue.
- Jeropotato

i will agree with him on that. the oilers do blow at assets managemtn. you probably will have 9 out of 10 people say that yakupov would probably develop better on any other team than edm.

Settle down. youre not convincing us that your right....just a blow hard moron.....on second thought...continue.
- Jeropotato

It's not my fault you people seem to lack reading comprehension. I've made my point crystal clear. If you can't be bothered to understand it, that's not my problem. If you disagree, that is fine, but lets not pretend like I'm the retard here when most of the pundits agree with me.

My patience has run out. It's unfortunate that many of you seem to have an infinite supply after 9 years without a playoff appearance (many of which were spent at the bottom of the entire league).

you can either think logically and use reason to try and prove a point.

or you can spew conjecture and assumptions as fact to try and prove your point.


the former always seems to be met with more positive feedback

but i dont think this guy is able to comprehend the difference

Sorry for my absence today, I'm sure there was more than enough derp to keep you all busy.

So you are saying management overpayed for those players, and you wanted them to overpay for Petry? He hasn't done (frank) all to earn a big contract so basically you want them to keep him just because he was their best dman (the best of a pile of crap isn't very good) and are pissed about the return saying it's bad management? How is the fact petry isn't that good, and not worth much management's fault? If he is in his prime as you say then they didn't lose out on a guy who has peaked.

- ruttager17

Go look at comparable defefensemen and then tell me if what I suggested was an overpayment.

haha Mark Spector is such a turd burglar
- DDM-Coga

also, this

It's not my fault you people seem to lack reading comprehension. I've made my point crystal clear. If you can't be bothered to understand it, that's not my problem. If you disagree, that is fine, but lets not pretend like I'm the retard here when most of the pundits agree with me.

My patience has run out. It's unfortunate that many of you seem to have an infinite supply after 9 years without a playoff appearance (many of which were spent at the bottom of the entire league).
- NEEDSMORHORCOFF

Answer my question already? What would you have done differently? Keeping in might MacT did try to get the C's you wanted.

Sorry for my absence today, I'm sure there was more than enough derp to keep you all busy.
- Dangles13

Your just in time for the derpiest guy of the day

It's not my fault you people seem to lack reading comprehension. I've made my point crystal clear. If you can't be bothered to understand it, that's not my problem. If you disagree, that is fine, but lets not pretend like I'm the retard here when most of the pundits agree with me.

My patience has run out. It's unfortunate that many of you seem to have an infinite supply after 9 years without a playoff appearance (many of which were spent at the bottom of the entire league).
- NEEDSMORHORCOFF

you didnt make any solid points whatsoever. guesswork and assumptions.
and the sad part is that u think its everyone else thats stupid, while you see the light.

maybe u might wanna do some reflection on why that might be....


we're still bad!!! i wanted to be better by now and were not. i dont care about using logic to figure out why. its macts fault. youre all stupid. youre apologists!!!!

Your just in time for the derpiest guy of the day
- Oilfan19

Well I don't think you're all that bad.

you can either think logically and use reason to try and prove a point.

or you can spew conjecture and assumptions as fact to try and prove your point.


the former always seems to be met with more positive feedback

but i dont think this guy is able to comprehend the difference
- Ihateallofu

in his defence you cant argue with the fatc that 9 years of losing and for the most part the oilers have the same people in upper managment does show that either ownership in absulutely clueless or love to lose. There is a degree of ineptitude there. No other Canadian market would accept the garabge that the oilers have done to their players and fans the last 9 years.

Only reason bob gainey was somewhat forgiven for his macdonnagh trade blunder was for him goign against the grain and trusting his scouts when they said take price at #5, that said he still lost his job for that nincompoopery

Well I don't think you're all that bad.
- Dangles13

Twat

haha Mark Spector is such a turd burglar
- DDM-Coga

Oh absolutely. I shouldn't ask but what did that shining ray of negativity say this time?

you didnt make any solid points whatsoever. guesswork and assumptions.
and the sad part is that u think its everyone else thats stupid, while you see the light.

maybe u might wanna do some reflection on why that might be....


we're still bad!!! i wanted to be better by now and were not. i dont care about using logic to figure out why. its macts fault. youre all stupid. youre apologists!!!!
- Ihateallofu

In my mind people are attacking the wrong issue for the most part. We're arguing about how terrible it was to lose a 2nd pairing defender, the real problem should be that Petry should never be anybody's best defenseman.

Of the Rangers top 6 who wouldn't be the Oilers best right now?

in his defence you cant argue with the fatc that 9 years of losing and for the most part the oilers have the same people in upper managment does show that either ownership in absulutely clueless or love to lose. There is a degree of ineptitude there. No other Canadian market would accept the garabge that the oilers have done to their players and fans the last 9 years.

Only reason bob gainey was somewhat forgiven for his macdonnagh trade blunder was for him goign against the grain and trusting his scouts when they said take price at #5, that said he still lost his job for that nincompoopery
- munky123

I can't wait until one of the habs players gets creamed cleanly in the playoffs and you fans call the cops again.

Oh absolutely. I shouldn't ask but what did that shining ray of negativity say this time?
- Garth_Mctavish

He tweeted out that Sakic is sure Ballsy for not being available for local media today but what do you expect from a team 26th in League attendance.

Then was told hes meeting media tomorrow, also met with media on saturday..then deleted all the tweets haha

I can't wait until one of the habs players gets creamed cleanly in the playoffs and you fans call the cops again.
- Oilfan19