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Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Mar 2 @ 1:25 AM ET
Phaneuf for Beesqua.


That's the deal.

- Byfuglien Ate Me


Beesqua has a NTC. He also has made it very clear he wants to be a career Canuck.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Krasnov's bunker, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 2 @ 1:27 AM ET
Does no one on these board understand the cap?

And using Kessel and Crosby in the same sentence.... yikes!

- Beatle_john

no, only you understand the cap. please tell us all about it
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Mar 2 @ 1:28 AM ET
TSN 1040 says a trade is "a-bruin" and will be announced soon.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Mar 2 @ 1:29 AM ET
no, only you understand the cap. please tell us all about it
- daeth


So your telling me that you expect a team to add 8 million a year... instantly. I don;t think you have been following the conversation.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Krasnov's bunker, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 2 @ 1:32 AM ET
I expect that another team either adds 8 million a year or Toronto keeps Kessel.
orienbrady22
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 02.14.2013

Mar 2 @ 1:33 AM ET
So your telling me that you expect a team to add 8 million a year... instantly. I don;t think you have been following the conversation.
- Beatle_john


1,2nd horvat kassin for kessel...
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Mar 2 @ 1:33 AM ET
I guess you all went to sleep.

Good Luck tomorrow.

I am not sure which with be worth... getting rid of Kessel or keeping him.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Mar 2 @ 1:34 AM ET
1,2nd horvat kassin for kessel...
- orienbrady22


I am not totally against that but thats 8 million versus less than 2. Remove Horvat, add Kadri and we are in the neighborhood.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Krasnov's bunker, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 2 @ 1:36 AM ET
I am not totally against that but thats 8 million versus less than 2. Remove Horvat, add Kadri and we are in the neighborhood.
- Beatle_john

gotta add nylander and toronto's 1st to make it fair imo
orienbrady22
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 02.14.2013

Mar 2 @ 1:36 AM ET
I am not totally against that but thats 8 million versus less than 2. Remove Horvat, add Kadri and we are in the neighborhood.
- Beatle_john



thats quite the deal breaker... you guys got a bad contract? throw it in my deal and we are good to go..
Lee Denault
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Time to get Schwifty
Joined: 11.16.2007

Mar 2 @ 1:44 AM ET
I mean, what exactly is Kessel? Do you truly believe he is worth that much? I mean truly... not this fantasy crap. No single player is worth that.

I see him as a sniper but not the last piece of the puzzle. He is not Patrick Kane.

You need to face it that the $$$ is as important as the players and he is overpaid. That needs to be taken into account.

- Beatle_john

If Kessel was always with the hawks and kane wss with the leafs youd say kane was no kessel
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Mar 2 @ 1:47 AM ET
gotta add nylander and toronto's 1st to make it fair imo
- daeth


Should be able to flip Phaneuf for Weber too, cap hits are pretty close.
mustarddogs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.26.2013

Mar 2 @ 2:06 AM ET
Tampa gets 2 second rounders from Boston for Brett Connolly

Flips a 1st, 3rd and Radko Gudas to Philly for Braydon Coburn
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Mar 2 @ 2:22 AM ET
If Kessel was always with the hawks and kane wss with the leafs youd say kane was no kessel
- Lee Denault



Lee! I thought you knew me better!
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Mar 2 @ 4:59 AM ET
I am not totally against that but thats 8 million versus less than 2. Remove Horvat, add Kadri and we are in the neighborhood.
- Beatle_john


Lets add Nylander and Brown just to be fair.

Kassian, 2nd for Kessel, Kadri, Nylander, Brown. looks fair!

all jokes aside Phil would probably put up 50 on the Sedins line. If there were actually serious talks, which is highly unlikely, It would start with Virtanen, Tanev, and a 1st
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Mar 2 @ 6:43 AM ET
Brayden Franking Coburn got the Flyers a 1st and a third.

Wow.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Mar 2 @ 6:47 AM ET
Brayden Franking Coburn got the Flyers a 1st and a third.

Wow.

- Atomic Wedgie



Gudas too, he's a pretty good dman.
Viktory
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 08.12.2011

Mar 2 @ 6:47 AM ET
I mean, what exactly is Kessel? Do you truly believe he is worth that much? I mean truly... not this fantasy crap. No single player is worth that.

I see him as a sniper but not the last piece of the puzzle. He is not Patrick Kane.

You need to face it that the $$$ is as important as the players and he is overpaid. That needs to be taken into account.

- Beatle_john


Well, statistically he is basically Patrick Kane that is a better ES% (Points and shots) player with a somewhat comparable Corsi Rel and makes 2.5 million less for essentially the same play over the last 3-4 seasons. Kane plays on a better team. Kessel is placed on a line with 2 other defensive disasters.

Don't see how Kessel is overpaid when he makes less than all of the elite point getters he compares to or surpasses minus guys on deals signed previous to the 8 figure deals of the talented Chicago head office.

Just wait til Patches, Stamkos and so on start making more than Kessel and judge the contract again.

My asking price would be much more fair than the other guys, but it's still steep.

2015 1st, 2015 2nd, Bo Horvat, and Vrbata for Kessel, a 2015 4th and Petter Granberg
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Mar 2 @ 6:56 AM ET
You put guys you believe are better than Dion in his role and they'll be destroyed.
- RogerRoeper


Dion got destroyed, too.

We've all had Phenough at this point.

Make it happen, Nonis.
iTOLDu
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MI
Joined: 10.26.2011

Mar 2 @ 6:57 AM ET
Brayden Franking Coburn got the Flyers a 1st and a third.

Wow.

- Atomic Wedgie



Stevie Y got crushed last night:

Buddy:you won't deal a first Steve
Y:watch this poop
Buddy: it was just a joke bud
Viktory
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 08.12.2011

Mar 2 @ 7:02 AM ET
Gudas too, he's a pretty good dman.
- systemtool


I don't know how much Tampa Bay hockey you watch, but Gudas is pretty bad.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Mar 2 @ 7:04 AM ET
I don't know how much Tampa Bay hockey you watch, but Gudas is pretty bad.
- Viktory


Enough to know that Gudas is pretty good. And by pretty good I don't mean Weber 2.0
Viktory
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 08.12.2011

Mar 2 @ 7:08 AM ET
Enough to know that Gudas is pretty good. And by pretty good I don't mean Weber 2.0
- systemtool


I beg to differ. He reminds me of Mark Fraser.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Mar 2 @ 7:09 AM ET
Enough to know that Gudas is pretty good. And by pretty good I don't mean Weber 2.0
- systemtool

I don't know him from a hole in the wall, but it looks like he was a 6/7 guy on the Bolts.

I'm just surprised Philly is selling off - they are still close to a playoff spot, and they usually have a good late-season surge.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Mar 2 @ 7:13 AM ET
I don't know him from a hole in the wall, but it looks like he was a 6/7 guy on the Bolts.

I'm just surprised Philly is selling off - they are still close to a playoff spot, and they usually have a good late-season surge.

- Atomic Wedgie


He's had injury issues this season, physical 5-6 dman on a good team.

Gudas was the Bolts #3 guy last year. Nothing flashy, nothing great. Plays the game hard. He's out for pretty much the rest of the year so it makes sense to trade him if you're a playoff team I guess.

He's sort of Luke Schennish. About the same age, is actually more physical, and has a bit more offense to his game. More like Polak, actually.
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