Yo..

I heard Chris Stewart is available. We'll take a 2nd.
- TheSabresTaco

We'll give you a #2

On the surface I don't mind the idea of Glencross as cheaper guy who has flexibility to play from the 4th to the 2nd line. has scored, can play gritty, and is a gamer in the playoffs.

and Ryder for the same reasons.

I really believe, and no offence to other nationalities in the NHL, but the more Canadian content on your team in the playoffs the better. They're the most diehard at all costs players.

Yo..

I heard Chris Stewart is available. We'll take a 2nd.
- TheSabresTaco

Oh, he's still on an NHL team? Learn something new everyday.

Sutter and Kunitz to Anaheim for Silvferberg, Smith-Pelly, and a 2nd. Clear up about 5+ mill to pick off some stragglers like Bergenheim or Jagr. Not worry too much about the assets lost because of the gains of Silverberg and Smith-Pelly.
If I remember Anaheim does have a good bit of cap room too.

This is like half palmer half serious though
- usethe1-2-2

I do this move without the 2nd. The Ducks would never do either option I'm afraid.

Probably because they're overrated, I feel bad for whoever gets traded there. The ship is sinking fast

So according to the Trib, GMJR wants to trade for a FW. But he doesn't want to move any of the young D prospects either.

All we have of value this year at the draft is a 2nd.

You aren't trading Sid, Malkin, Perron, Horny, Fleury, Letang, DP, Comeau.

Ernoff has a NMC.

Scuds and Adams are untradeable.

Duper and Maatta are injured.

Spaling and Lap likely don't fetch you what you want.

That leaves the following names by process of elimination:

Martin, Bortuzzo, Despres, BB, Sutter, Kunitz, Downie.

Why would you trade a FW to get another FW? BB for a more experienced UFA type? Not the best asset mgmt IMO. He wants goals so that likely rules out Kunitz unless he somehow flips him for a younger asset. Not likely though.

So, that leaves Martin, Borts, and Despres.

If he truly thinks they are a Cup contender, he keeps Martin.

Borts may get you a decent 3/4 line guy. Prob not good enough though.

So, we have Despres as the logical candidate.

Think about it...

Young. Upside. He's shown flashes of being really good. Inconsistent. Signed through next year. Would fetch a nice return.

If the Pens could get a 3rd line guy (a Fehr, Ward type) who is under contract for another year who can score 15 or so goals, I'd make that trade.
- 87_71_11_29

You sir may have posted the most logical thing i have read on ANY teams board all week. Despres is easily their best trade candidate for what they are looking to get back. I cant see JR giving up that 2nd, not in this draft. If he does i think it really narrows the stanley cup window for this club. I agree that Pouliot is off limits, but if the right move came along I could see them parting with either Dumolin or a lesser prospect like Harrington. Both will probably be top 6 guys in the league at some point but nowhere near the potential to be a top 4 or even top 2 like DP.

Probably because they're overrated, I feel bad for whoever gets traded there. The ship is sinking fast
- deadmau5

Sucks!

So according to the Trib, GMJR wants to trade for a FW. But he doesn't want to move any of the young D prospects either.

All we have of value this year at the draft is a 2nd.

You aren't trading Sid, Malkin, Perron, Horny, Fleury, Letang, DP, Comeau.

Ernoff has a NMC.

Scuds and Adams are untradeable.

Duper and Maatta are injured.

Spaling and Lap likely don't fetch you what you want.

That leaves the following names by process of elimination:

Martin, Bortuzzo, Despres, BB, Sutter, Kunitz, Downie.

Why would you trade a FW to get another FW? BB for a more experienced UFA type? Not the best asset mgmt IMO. He wants goals so that likely rules out Kunitz unless he somehow flips him for a younger asset. Not likely though.

So, that leaves Martin, Borts, and Despres.

If he truly thinks they are a Cup contender, he keeps Martin.

Borts may get you a decent 3/4 line guy. Prob not good enough though.

So, we have Despres as the logical candidate.

Think about it...

Young. Upside. He's shown flashes of being really good. Inconsistent. Signed through next year. Would fetch a nice return.

If the Pens could get a 3rd line guy (a Fehr, Ward type) who is under contract for another year who can score 15 or so goals, I'd make that trade.
- 87_71_11_29

post said rutherford talked about moving 2016 picks, or a roster player

You sir may have posted the most logical thing i have read on ANY teams board all week. Despres is easily their best trade candidate for what they are looking to get back. I cant see JR giving up that 2nd, not in this draft. If he does i think it really narrows the stanley cup window for this club. I agree that Pouliot is off limits, but if the right move came along I could see them parting with either Dumolin or a lesser prospect like Harrington. Both will probably be top 6 guys in the league at some point but nowhere near the potential to be a top 4 or even top 2 like DP.
- did109

With Erhoff and Martin likely moving on I'm not trading Despres. Especially not for a 3rd line player. He's young, cheap, and improving.

You sir may have posted the most logical thing i have read on ANY teams board all week. Despres is easily their best trade candidate for what they are looking to get back. I cant see JR giving up that 2nd, not in this draft. If he does i think it really narrows the stanley cup window for this club. I agree that Pouliot is off limits, but if the right move came along I could see them parting with either Dumolin or a lesser prospect like Harrington. Both will probably be top 6 guys in the league at some point but nowhere near the potential to be a top 4 or even top 2 like DP.
- did109

I don't know, when GMJR says he doesn't want to move any of the young D guys, I think he is referring mostly to Despres and Pouliot and to a lesser extent Dumoulin and Harrington. I wouldn't be surprised if one of Dumoulin or Harrington is moved, but I would be surprised if Despres were moved. Obviously they would not have as much value as Despres or Pouliot, but Despres or Pouliot for a 3rd liner would be overpayment anyways.

With Erhoff and Martin likely moving on I'm not trading Despres. Especially not for a 3rd line player. He's young, cheap, and improving.
- dbell646

Agreed.

Probably because they're overrated, I feel bad for whoever gets traded there. The ship is sinking fast
- deadmau5

Hey how's superstar Goc doing for ya?

post said rutherford talked about moving 2016 picks, or a roster player
- ChrisMS

Yeah, he said 2016 pick that isn't the 1st, 2nd tier prospects, or maybe a NHL roster player, maybe. That is really what is in play from the Pens side. The NHL player would have to be one of Sutter, Bennett, Bortuzzo, Downie (who according to Molinari yesterday the organization is down on). Obviously none of those 4 are getting big returns, but packaged with a 2016 pick or 2nd tier prospect could get a 3rd liner.

Nice writeup very informative

What could you guys give up for Sharp

We need a 4 5 or 6 defenseman and a big bodied physical winger

Nice writeup very informative

What could you guys give up for Sharp

We need a 4 5 or 6 defenseman and a big bodied physical winger
- molly2522

We don't have a big bodied physical winger we want one too

Yeah, he said 2016 pick that isn't the 1st, 2nd tier prospects, or maybe a NHL roster player, maybe. That is really what is in play from the Pens side. The NHL player would have to be one of Sutter, Bennett, Bortuzzo, Downie (who according to Molinari yesterday the organization is down on). Obviously none of those 4 are getting big returns, but packaged with a 2016 pick or 2nd tier prospect could get a 3rd liner.
- PensFan1103

Trading Downie is such a huge mistake

Nice writeup very informative

What could you guys give up for Sharp

We need a 4 5 or 6 defenseman and a big bodied physical winger
- molly2522

Martin and Sutter... take it out get out :D

Fleischman and Bergenheim for Crosby's game worn Winter Classic jersey. Mmmmmmm.

Hate to bring it back up again today, but if Sid and Geno can't be counted on to win games in the playoffs, what's the point of paying them almost $20 mil a year just to be decoys so the 3rd and 4th lines can be saddled with the responsibility of winning games?!?

Nice writeup very informative

What could you guys give up for Sharp

We need a 4 5 or 6 defenseman and a big bodied physical winger
- molly2522

I doubt Pittsburgh would go that direction. Sharp is a quality player, but his cap hit and age wouldn't make Pittsburgh a good fit.

post said rutherford talked about moving 2016 picks, or a roster player
- ChrisMS

I guess Rutherford knows his times limited in that role. Trade as many picks as possible.

Nice writeup very informative

What could you guys give up for Sharp

We need a 4 5 or 6 defenseman and a big bodied physical winger
- molly2522

There would have to be a lot of cap space going back to Chicago to make enough room for Sharp. We have no big bodied wingers. Defenseman wise, Bortuzzo could be a 6th, but not much better than that. Martin would make the cap work, but he would be more than what you guys would need in a 4, 5, or 6 d-man. Also the Pens wouldn't give him up unless they don't think they ahve much of a chance in the playoffs anyways. Not really seeing any logical fits.

Hate to bring it back up again today, but if Sid and Geno can't be counted on to win games in the playoffs, what's the point of paying them almost $20 mil a year just to be decoys so the 3rd and 4th lines can be saddled with the responsibility of winning games?!?
- hardnosed

Agreed.

Fleischman and Bergenheim for Crosby's game worn Winter Classic jersey. Mmmmmmm.
- Panthers88

Only if Florida retains 100% salary

So according to the Trib, GMJR wants to trade for a FW. But he doesn't want to move any of the young D prospects either.

All we have of value this year at the draft is a 2nd.

You aren't trading Sid, Malkin, Perron, Horny, Fleury, Letang, DP, Comeau.

Ernoff has a NMC.

Scuds and Adams are untradeable.

Duper and Maatta are injured.

Spaling and Lap likely don't fetch you what you want.

That leaves the following names by process of elimination:

Martin, Bortuzzo, Despres, BB, Sutter, Kunitz, Downie.

Why would you trade a FW to get another FW? BB for a more experienced UFA type? Not the best asset mgmt IMO. He wants goals so that likely rules out Kunitz unless he somehow flips him for a younger asset. Not likely though.

So, that leaves Martin, Borts, and Despres.

If he truly thinks they are a Cup contender, he keeps Martin.

Borts may get you a decent 3/4 line guy. Prob not good enough though.

So, we have Despres as the logical candidate.

Think about it...

Young. Upside. He's shown flashes of being really good. Inconsistent. Signed through next year. Would fetch a nice return.

If the Pens could get a 3rd line guy (a Fehr, Ward type) who is under contract for another year who can score 15 or so goals, I'd make that trade.
- 87_71_11_29

If we're talking about defenseman that could actually fetch something in a trade. Despres vs. Martin is interesting. I think Despres is too imporant for the future Defense because of his cap hit and he's a motly proven commodity. Trading Martin makes a ton of sense for the future but not much sense for this season.

If Despres were to be traded (I wouldnt), it would need to be like Despres and Sutter for Filppula and Connolly or something.