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Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Feb 11 @ 12:47 PM ET
Which is more unattractive?
Phone rings. "Hello?"

"Hey, it's JR. I wanted to pick up that discussion we were having about Bennett."

"Oh, yeah... isn't he out again? What's the deal?"

"He's banged up. (JR lets out a chair-rattling fart). He's spent so much time away from the team that we forgot what color his hair is. Hello?!"

Or:
"Hey, it's JR. I wanted to pick up that discussion we were having about Bennett."

"Oh, yeah... isn't he out again? What's the deal?"

"You know, it's a thing with him and the coach. Johnston wants to get the right mix in depending on the opponent. (JR swirls the last of the cheap hooch in his coffee mug, then pours it down his throat). Coach thinks he's too soft to have played on the Western Canada swing. Hello?!"

- Johnny Wrath


This

"Hey, its JR, I want to talk about Bennett."

".... click. beep, beep, beep..."
87_71_11_29
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: In a van down by the river, PA
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 11 @ 12:49 PM ET
Had to look it up, Barkley is always entertaining! But yeah X2 with him on that. Just read Money Ball, hey we made a solid team out of a bunch of has beens, had a good run, but are so boring to watch the owners must close off the upper deck so we don't get blacked out in playoff games! How have the A's been since?
- sammy87

Couldn't agree more on the Moneyball A's. Everyone points to them as the poster child yet they never came close to winning anything. Never even won a playoff series.

I understand why the A's do it with their budget situation an all. Just stop telling me that's the way to make a championship club.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Feb 11 @ 12:49 PM ET
This

"Hey, its JR, I want to talk about Bennett."

".... click. beep, beep, beep..."

- Guile


Bennett and a 2nd for Tlusty.

Done.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 11 @ 12:50 PM ET
So what happened to kane not being traded due to ir lol
Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

Feb 11 @ 12:51 PM ET
Bennet dumlion and a 2nd round pick for jagr
- Palmer117


Post of the day!
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Feb 11 @ 12:51 PM ET
So what happened to kane not being traded due to ir lol
- nh4442



Has he officially been put on IR yet? That might be the loophole
Johnny Wrath
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Draft more Swedes, CA
Joined: 01.09.2009

Feb 11 @ 12:52 PM ET
So what happened to kane not being traded due to ir lol
- nh4442

That was never accurate. Pittsburgh should have gotten in on that LTIR cap relief and then flipped Kane at the NHL Draft. Oh well.

Just exactly how many games in Buffalo going to lose this season?
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Feb 11 @ 12:52 PM ET
I'm all for it as long as the asking price is not to high
- willi


If Jagr wants to go somewhere, I doubt they'll be looking to gouge the team- even one in their own division. I just don't view him as a major upgrade unless it is part of a series of moves to get Sutter out which is a major impediment to making the Pens better.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Feb 11 @ 12:53 PM ET
Has he officially been put on IR yet? That might be the loophole
- Guile



Yes, he has.

There is no rule saying you cannot trade a player on IR.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 11 @ 12:53 PM ET
GMJR is all in on Winnik apparently. Good depth move, but I would be shocked if that was the last move with Arco getting claimed.
- usethe1-2-2

How bout winnik and tlusty?

Perron sid horn
Tlusty geno bennett
Kuni sutter comeau
Winnik lap downie

Letang despres
Martin pouliot
scuds borts
Ehrhoff in when healthy,
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 11 @ 12:54 PM ET
Couldn't agree more on the Moneyball A's. Everyone points to them as the poster child yet they never came close to winning anything. Never even won a playoff series.

I understand why the A's do it with their budget situation an all. Just stop telling me that's the way to make a championship club.

- 87_71_11_29


Baseball is a sport that should encourage steroids. I loved it when Sossa and Bonds tried to blast one into the Ohio.

The A's best years were with the bash brothers. They can't sell out playoff games now.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Feb 11 @ 12:54 PM ET
So what happened to kane not being traded due to ir lol
- nh4442


Players can still be traded on IR. I believe the only difference is that the player and teams involved have to acknowledge that Kane can't pass a physical at the time of the deal.
PensFan1103
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 06.30.2010

Feb 11 @ 12:55 PM ET
Couldn't agree more on the Moneyball A's. Everyone points to them as the poster child yet they never came close to winning anything. Never even won a playoff series.

I understand why the A's do it with their budget situation an all. Just stop telling me that's the way to make a championship club.

- 87_71_11_29

It's not really the way to make a Championship club. It's more the way to make a small market team competitive and have a chance. And other teams have since adopted the same practices, so Oakland now has competition for the same guys they would be going after.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Feb 11 @ 12:55 PM ET
Yes, he has.

There is no rule saying you cannot trade a player on IR.

- BINGO!


It was phrased in a previous blog implying such... I guess now it was just implying that no one trades for IR players.

Of course...

Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

Feb 11 @ 1:00 PM ET
I've always thought this team can't win the Cup with the leadership in the room. I've also thought that acquiring Jags was a poor move. Now I'm starting to think he might be the only player that can walk into that room and change its dynamic.
Johnny Wrath
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Draft more Swedes, CA
Joined: 01.09.2009

Feb 11 @ 1:01 PM ET
Baseball is a sport that should encourage steroids. I loved it when Sossa and Bonds tried to blast one into the Ohio.

The A's best years were with the bash brothers. They can't sell out playoff games now.

- sammy87

You can't really go to the games in California unless you've got an armed escort past the gangsters straight into your luxury box. The stadiums are heavily territorialized; it's the gathering place for the lowest, meanest people. Going there as a general ticket holder to try to enjoy a ballgame is not a shot that's on the board.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Feb 11 @ 1:04 PM ET
Bennet dumlion and a 2nd round pick for jagr
- Palmer117


No ...
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Feb 11 @ 1:05 PM ET
I've always thought this team can't win the Cup with the leadership in the room. I've also thought that acquiring Jags was a poor move. Now I'm starting to think he might be the only player that can walk into that room and change its dynamic.
- Topshelf Mountain

Ten years in and Crosby Malkin Letang aren't good leaders? I call that a bull crap excuse. Its not a strong depth team and we have failed to acknowledge that 4th lines still have to generate chances (even if their offensive ineptitude stops them from producing).

Make another move, put Bennett in the lineup, and get rid of Sill
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Feb 11 @ 1:05 PM ET
What a great, great trade by Buffalo.

Tim Murray is getting work done there.

- rival22


Yes, the acquisition of Bogosian was huge. Getting rid of Stafford was even bigger.
icedog97
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.20.2005

Feb 11 @ 1:05 PM ET
Bennet dumlion and a 2nd round pick for jagr
- Palmer117


Jagr is not coming here unless

1) Kunitz gets moved
or
2) Crosby allows the coach to pick his RW and
3) Malkin and Crosby get separated on the power play
or
4) Jagr accepts a role as a regular 3rd liner (who might get some 1st/2nd line minutes) and accepts not being on the top power play

So...no...Jagr is not coming here...
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 11 @ 1:08 PM ET
You can't really go to the games in California unless you've got an armed escort past the gangsters straight into your luxury box. The stadiums are heavily territorialized; it's the gathering place for the lowest, meanest people. Going there as a general ticket holder to try to enjoy a ballgame is not a shot that's on the board.
- Johnny Wrath


That's def true. CA is sketchy, I hate going there for work. Aside from the touristy areas, Wine Country, Natl Parks, I always felt it was a dump.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Feb 11 @ 1:08 PM ET
Jesus. That's at least double the value for JJ.

Does anyone think JJ walking through that door is going to save this season?

- Johnny Wrath

Without a shadow of a doubt.

He is the exact style of player that would flourish with Geno, and he solves our power play problem; he is a PP genius.


WWJJD
Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

Feb 11 @ 1:11 PM ET
Ten years in and Crosby Malkin Letang aren't good leaders? I call that a bull crap excuse. Its not a strong depth team and we have failed to acknowledge that 4th lines still have to generate chances (even if their offensive ineptitude stops them from producing).

Make another move, put Bennett in the lineup, and get rid of Sill

- usethe1-2-2


It's been discussed numerous times before. No! They are not good leaders. They fold when things get tough. They need an experienced, strong voice in the room to make them perform to their level.
icedog97
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.20.2005

Feb 11 @ 1:13 PM ET
Ten years in and Crosby Malkin Letang aren't good leaders? I call that a bull crap excuse. Its not a strong depth team and we have failed to acknowledge that 4th lines still have to generate chances (even if their offensive ineptitude stops them from producing).

Make another move, put Bennett in the lineup, and get rid of Sill

- usethe1-2-2


It's always about making another move...isn't it?

They have made lots of moves since last year...lots of changes...so making a move might not really be the answer...you know?

Maybe the source of the 'same problems' isn't the 3rd and 4th line depth
Johnny Wrath
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Draft more Swedes, CA
Joined: 01.09.2009

Feb 11 @ 1:15 PM ET
That's def true. CA is sketchy, I hate going there for work. Aside from the touristy areas, Wine Country, Natl Parks, I always felt it was a dump.
- sammy87

It's the kind of deal where you're there with your kid pointing out a player on the field when a guy six rows up yells: "My girl says you were lookin at her. You got a problem?!". His girl is invariably dressed like Sindel.

California is a very diverse State. There are plenty of places that wouldn't feel out of place in the third world, but there is much between that and Pier 39.
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