BluemanGuruu
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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Maybe Luke Witkowski if he plays against the Blues next game. I am sure the Bolts didn't like it and might try to address it because Stamkos was just standing there not even close to Elliott when Backes shoved him. Glad Stamkos stood up for himself. Will be interesting next game versus the Blues as the Bolts are not known to fight much. - stammerman
That is part of hockey just as when Stamkos slashed the back of Backes's knee. |
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BluemanGuruu
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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Butler had a bad first period but he got better as the night went on. Made a nice play on the game winning goal and finished with over 20 minutes. I think you keep Petro and Bow together if not to maintain cohesiveness down the stretch into the playoffs, then to take some of the pressure off of Butler/Gunnarson and keep giving them more offensive zone starts.
I agree about Rattie. Not sure he has the motor or the fearlessness it will take for him to be a scorer in the NHL. I actually would not be surprised if we end up seeing Fabrri at some point this season.
By the way, I'd like to thank Guru in advance for reminding us that he played for Chaminade just like Butler, Bishop, and Stastny.
Just kidding guru, I'd be proud too if I played there. - fattyboubatty
No way we ought to trade Petro as he was terrible last niht
Who says soemthing like that?
Heck yeah I am proud. In a few years soon to be more of my alums in the NHL. Before this crop three guys I payed with were either drafted or olayed in the NHL. Younger kis but it was nice to see.
A bad game happens. Butler and Gunner played together for the first time. Besides when anyone gets down on Cole and Butler let us not forget they are playing their off sides which makes it more difficult when breaking out on your back hand at the NHL level.
I am not worried about Rattie. Jaskin is barely noticable on that line as well and that has a lot to do with Lindstrom who managed to make both Berglund and Stastny invisible at the start of the year. |
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sycsam
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 09.26.2008
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[quote=BluemanGuruu]No way we ought to trade Petro as he was terrible last niht
Like I said earlier if a D man goes it will be Bo at the draft for a first rounder
This team needs nothing
There is no excuse for a bad playoff run by this team
33 games to go until the real season starts.
Long long way to go |
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BluemanGuruu
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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[quote=BluemanGuruu]No way we ought to trade Petro as he was terrible last niht
Like I said earlier if a D man goes it will be Bo at the draft for a first rounder
This team needs nothing
There is no excuse for a bad playoff run by this team
33 games to go until the real season starts.
Long long way to go - sycsam
I was making fun the imbecile saying to trade him.
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BluemanGuruu
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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[quote=BluemanGuruu]No way we ought to trade Petro as he was terrible last niht
Like I said earlier if a D man goes it will be Bo at the draft for a first rounder
This team needs nothing
There is no excuse for a bad playoff run by this team
33 games to go until the real season starts.
Long long way to go - sycsam
The one thing that can ruin the fun is a hot goaltender. Just think poor Pens and Caps running into Halak that year. Far superior teams to Montreal. |
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 07.21.2009
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Would the blues move Berglund? |
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bluenatic411
St Louis Blues |
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Location: St. Louis, MO Joined: 01.14.2013
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Stamkos was just standing there not even close to Elliott when Backes shoved him. - stammerman
Didn't he see the sign?
"There will be no loitering in or around the Blues' goal crease.
Signed, DMFB"
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carcus
St Louis Blues |
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Location: #Winnington Joined: 02.12.2009
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Would the blues move Berglund? - Bieksa#3
Yes |
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carcus
St Louis Blues |
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Location: #Winnington Joined: 02.12.2009
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Quick, somebody call the Po-Po.
Tarasenko stole a point. Schwartz stole the second point and Elliot drove the getaway car.
Geeze, what a snoozer of a game. Four minutes of excitement jam-packed into three hours. - bcallaway
I was entertained. |
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Bieksa#3
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Antilles
St Louis Blues |
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Joined: 10.17.2008
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Higgins? - Bieksa#3
No. Blues moving Berglund would be for either an upgrade in skill, or to get the cap space needed for another deal. Otherwise, why mess with the chemistry in the room? |
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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No. Blues moving Berglund would be for either an upgrade in skill, or to get the cap space needed for another deal. Otherwise, why mess with the chemistry in the room? - Antilles
Save 1.2 mill |
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stljam
St Louis Blues |
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Location: St. Louis, MO Joined: 02.02.2007
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I think you are wrong about Butler.
You know who played bad though on defense? Jackman. But it was not so much bad play as bad passing by the Blues that hurt their play and had them chasing the gaame.
I do not know how Rattie has much of a chance to show anything with his center's only positive play skating the perimeter and then losing the puck while Rattie and Jaskin were deep. It is crap. - BluemanGuruu
The D passing overall was very bad. Lots of bad giveaways.
Butler played the first goal about as poorly as he could. Back in to give up the screened shot - check. Turn away from the middle, peeling away from the rebound so I cover the guy going to corner rather than protecting the rebound in the middle - check.
Neither Rattie and Lindstrom both couldn't keep up with Jaskin. That line was not good when they were together.
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Antilles
St Louis Blues |
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Joined: 10.17.2008
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Save 1.2 mill - Bieksa#3
Negligible amount, certainly not worth messing around with what we have for. |
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BluemanGuruu
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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Save 1.2 mill - Bieksa#3
His cap hit is over $3 million.
I think it is always possible but in the same division unlikely.
More likely a hockey trade to someone like Toronto for a right handed dman and probably a forward like Saantorelli coming back. Not just for Berglund mind you but probably one of the left handed dmen. |
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fattyboubatty
St Louis Blues |
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Location: st louis, MO Joined: 12.09.2006
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His cap hit is over $3 million.
I think it is always possible but in the same division unlikely.
More likely a hockey trade to someone like Toronto for a right handed dman and probably a forward like Saantorelli coming back. Not just for Berglund mind you but probably one of the left handed dmen. - BluemanGuruu
As long as he comes back healthy before the deadline. Berglund + for Santorelli and Franson. Yeah they are UFA's and it might be unlikely to resign even one of them but if it doesn't work out, the Blues still have two good young players ready to step right in next season and with the cap going up, they will have some flexibility come summer.
Like you said earlier, Berglund's solid advanced stats should boost his value some, presumably to a team like Toronto that is way behind in that department. |
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sycsam
St Louis Blues |
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 09.26.2008
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I was making fun the imbecile saying to trade him. - BluemanGuruu
I know
Why do people want to trade Pietro it makes zero sense |
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BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues |
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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As long as he comes back healthy before the deadline. Berglund + for Santorelli and Franson. Yeah they are UFA's and it might be unlikely to resign even one of them but if it doesn't work out, the Blues still have two good young players ready to step right in next season and with the cap going up, they will have some flexibility come summer.
Like you said earlier, Berglund's solid advanced stats should boost his value some, presumably to a team like Toronto that is way behind in that department. - fattyboubatty
I think the Blues should go for it. Expecting Shatty back perfectly healthy in a few weeks I think is a bad play for a team this close.
So you trade either Cole or Lindbohm or someone other young dman in the system plus Berglund. You get the Leafs(if they can), to keep some of the salary and your team is improved for the okay offs.
What hurt us against Tampa is playing five left handed dmen. Edmundson has been hurt all year and he was supposed to be ready this season as a call up and he is not. If you have a player like Franson and he walks but helps you compete for a Cup it is no real loss as you need to probably dump salary in the off season anyway.
I think in the off season you might be able to get Butler signed for a low cap hit and you are still set. Trade from a position of strength why not? |
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BluemanGuruu
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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I know
Why do people want to trade Pietro it makes zero sense - sycsam
The same people who yell shoot the entire power play. They just do not uderstand hockey.
The thing with good teams is that band wagon fans start watching and think they know the game. |
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BluemanGuruu
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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I think the Blues should go for it. Expecting Shatty back perfectly healthy in a few weeks I think is a bad play for a team this close.
So you trade either Cole or Lindbohm or someone other young dman in the system plus Berglund. You get the Leafs(if they can), to keep some of the salary and your team is improved for the okay offs.
What hurt us against Tampa is playing five left handed dmen. Edmundson has been hurt all year and he was supposed to be ready this season as a call up and he is not. If you have a player like Franson and he walks but helps you compete for a Cup it is no real loss as you need to probably dump salary in the off season anyway.
I think in the off season you might be able to get Butler signed for a low cap hit and you are still set. Trade from a position of strength why not? - BluemanGuruu
Maybe we can get lucky and dump Lindstrom's contract in the mix as well.
Magnus is starting to look good for the Wolves. Do not give up Magnus too quickly size and speed. He just needs some confidence. |
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stljam
St Louis Blues |
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Location: St. Louis, MO Joined: 02.02.2007
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As long as he comes back healthy before the deadline. Berglund + for Santorelli and Franson. Yeah they are UFA's and it might be unlikely to resign even one of them but if it doesn't work out, the Blues still have two good young players ready to step right in next season and with the cap going
Like you said earlier, Berglund's solid advanced stats should boost his value some, presumably to a team like Toronto that is way behind in that department. - fattyboubatty
If Shatty isn't going to be able to get back healthy, I'd be for the following:
Franson and Kadri for Berglund, Rattie, MPS and a conditional pick if Franson signs with the Blues (dollars may not quite work so the leafs keep 1mm of Franson salary this year).
I don't see a big need for Santorelli. |
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BluemanGuruu
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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up, they will have some flexibility come summer.
If Shatty isn't going to be able to get back healthy, I'd be for the following:
Franson and Kadri for Berglund, Rattie, MPS and a conditional pick if Franson signs with the Blues (dollars may not quite work so the leafs keep 1mm of Franson salary this year).
I don't see a big need for Santorelli. - stljam
In a sense youare trading one good player and a lot of garbage at this point. The Leafs will also want a dman in return. And you have to subtract a dman from our roster to make it work.
That is insane no way the Leafs would make that move and what do you do with Kadri on this roster? Santorelli makes more sense because he is a depth guy that plays hard and has extremely good speed. Plus then you are not saving on cap hit by taking Kadri back.
The cap is a problem next year. Because the cap is tied to the Canadian dollar which has been losing a lot of value it will not go up as much. |
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