Did you miss the part where Johnston said that Goc needed to chip in more offensively?!?

He was expected to. He didn't. He's gone.
- hardnosed

You can't honestly think ML will help those guys score more. I mean, let's be honest, they're bringing Lapierre here to be a dirt bag.

5th All Time In Scoring.

1st All Time in Dying Alive.
- hardnosed

1st all time in publicly standing Mario up to go out with the guy that always picked on him in high school.

I think Shero brought him in dues to all the injuries we had down the stretch that year
- all-pgh

That and the trades from the previous year left the cupboards bare of assets to acquire skill players. Not saying we should have grabbed them, but while Hemsky and Gaborik were being dealt Shero was doing what he could to add cheap pieces--Goc and Stempniak. If Shero didnt give up everything he did in the Murray, Iginla, and Morrow deals, might have been able to add more than Goc and Stemp. We needed pieces and those 2 were what we could afford.

Ott- 45gp 7 points
Reaves- 45gp 6 points

Those will most likely be Goc's linemates, in other words, not a big difference in the skill of his line mates. He will still produce like a 1.2 million dollar turd

Interesting tidbit i caught on the Jets broadcast last night...

Pens are 9-0-1 when missing both Crosby and Malkin since 2011.
- canadianpenfan

I saw that stat after the game too... its ironically funny... Would like to see who these 10 games were against.

That and the trades from the previous year left the cupboards bare of assets to acquire skill players. Not saying we should have grabbed them, but while Hemsky and Gaborik were being dealt Shero was doing what he could to add cheap pieces--Goc and Stempniak. If Shero didnt give up everything he did in the Murray, Iginla, and Morrow deals, might have been able to add more than Goc and Stemp. We needed pieces and those 2 were what we could afford.
- Rawdog9755

Pretty sure everyone on this board would have LOVED to have kept Stemp, especially at the price he went for to the rangers.

You can't honestly think ML will help those guys score more. I mean, let's be honest, they're bring Lapierre here to be a dirt bag.
- madmike71

I do think they expected something closer to Letestu out of Goc. Obviously, that didnt happen or come even remotely close. Now they are going to go the grit route.

Interesting tidbit i caught on the Jets broadcast last night...

Pens are 9-0-1 when missing both Crosby and Malkin since 2011.
- canadianpenfan

They play a much more simple game. Hopefully Sid and Geno were taking notes. Especially on the PP.

This says it all right here. Ebbett is a younger Craig Adams as well..
- znagle

My goodness, might as well call you and hardnosed Lloyd Christmas and Harry Dunne

They play a much more simple game. Hopefully Sid and Geno were taking notes. Especially on the PP.
- madmike71

Horny was also back... a big factor for those net crashing goals, set up, and pressure.

Pretty sure everyone on this board would have LOVED to have kept Stemp, especially at the price he went for to the rangers.
- Guile

At the time, yes. Now, not so much. Given the way Comeau and Downie have played it makes Stemp leaving not matter.

Did you miss the part where Johnston said that Goc needed to chip in more offensively?!?

He was expected to. He didn't. He's gone.
- hardnosed

"You, you start in the defensive zone with the most pathetic players on the team. But if you don't produce you are gone!"


Yah, great franking logic.

My goodness, might as well call you and hardnosed Lloyd Christmas and Harry Dunne
- PensFan1103

Ebbett has 6 points in 19 games. Goc had 8 in 55. I don't think you can argue that. Ebbett has been better than #FancyStat Goc

At the time, yes. Now, not so much. Given the way Comeau and Downie have played it makes Stemp leaving not matter.
- Rawdog9755

Stemp makes Adams money... Easy decision

At the time, yes. Now, not so much. Given the way Comeau and Downie have played it makes Stemp leaving not matter.
- Rawdog9755

Pfft... I would STILL want him here. 900K for a player with already known 2nd and 3rd line skill. And not simple "plug in" skill, but all the time skill level.

You would want Arcobello over Stemp... or Sill, Adams.. etc...

Late addition to the blog today. Domenic Galamini was kind enough to create this today for me.


- Ryan_Wilson

If that's who replaces Adams on the 3rd line....count me in. 2016 3rd round pick, just do it JR.

"You, you start in the defensive zone with the most pathetic players on the team. But if you don't produce you are gone!"


Yah, great franking logic.
- usethe1-2-2

you have somewhat of a point but Goc never produced when put in better positions either. (for the pens)

Ebbett has 6 points in 19 games. Goc had 8 in 55. I don't think you can argue that. Ebbett has been better than #FancyStat Goc
- znagle

Ebbett has scored the majority of those points away from Sill and Adams. You literally can't argue that. I am not going to sit here and debate who is better Goc or Ebbett, because that doesn't matter. My issue is that both of those guys are better than Sill and Adams.

Can't say I really see the trade of Goc for Lapierre as being a big deal one way or the other. Both are UFAs at the end of the season and the Cap Hits are essentially a wash.

Goc has some nice advanced stats, but that just didn't translate into a lot of sucess with the Penguins. Solid defensive C, but not a physical, checking C.

Lapierre is more physical, but also has a significant history with going over the line. He has, however, kept his PIM in check this season at least.

Just have to wait & see how it turns out.
- s0rcerer1984

I think hes only been suspended one time his whole career actually...not that im saying he doesn't go over the line, but in the league's eyes he is exempt as a repeat offender because the last incident was over 18 months ago.

Pfft... I would STILL want him here. 900K for a player with already known 2nd and 3rd line skill. And not simple "plug in" skill, but all the time skill level.

You would want Arcobello over Stemp... or Sill, Adams.. etc...
- Guile

I am quite sure that stemp left because he was unhappy with the rockiness of the coach/gm situation. for a few weeks it was a hot mess.

I am quite sure that stemp left because he was unhappy with the rockiness of the coach/gm situation. for a few weeks it was a hot mess.
- ChrisMS

Absolutely... He never gave a reason, but I do not believe it was money related seeing how cheap he went.
And I personally cannot fault him for leaving when a team had no GM and a coach you knew was going to be fired.

Pfft... I would STILL want him here. 900K for a player with already known 2nd and 3rd line skill. And not simple "plug in" skill, but all the time skill level.

You would want Arcobello over Stemp... or Sill, Adams.. etc...
- Guile

It is pretty obvious size and grit was the goal with letting him and Gibbons walk. I have no issue with it based on the way the team is being built now for the playoffs. Couple more moves and none of Arco, Sill, Adams should be in the lineup for the playoffs. Not like we are the only team who didnt offer Stemp more than 900k

I think hes only been suspended one time his whole career actually...not that im saying he doesn't go over the line, but in the league's eyes he is exempt as a repeat offender because the last incident was over 18 months ago.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

November 18, 2013 - Boyle hit.

He's still within the 18 months.

Absolutely... He never gave a reason, but I do not believe it was money related seeing how cheap he went.
And I personally cannot fault him for leaving when a team had no GM and a coach you knew was going to be fired.
- Guile

He stated he felt NYR gave him a great chance and they could roll 4 lines. He liked that a lot. Do we even know if JR threw him an offer though? If he didn't that would've been a HUGE mistake.

November 18, 2013 - Boyle hit.

He's still within the 18 months.
- Topshelf Mountain

Not defending him... but since we can never say this enough... the NHL discipline system is stupid.