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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 27 @ 11:05 AM ET
I am just curious how you can assure me that? elaborate please.
- rinaldo


Because I'm right.
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Jan 27 @ 11:06 AM ET
Pretty exciting that in just over a month the trade deadline will be here and we'll have a much better idea of what Hextall really thinks about this team.
- Feanor

That to me is the most interesting question from now until draft day. There are some interesting hints but nothing concrete. I really wish we knew what was in that draft package last year offered to Florida to move up. I think that would give a good idea of what he thinks of the current team and specific players and or prospects.

He says he expected the Flyers to make the playoffs this year but supposedly wanted to lottery protect the 1st round pick which makes you think he wasn't all that sure.

He traded Hartnell for Umberger, a worst player on a similar contract. Was it to get Hartnell off the team or really for capspace years from now? If it was for capspace in the future what about the present?

Andrew MacDonald? Why?

Rinaldo extension? Again, Why?

He says he isn't tanking but he hasn't done anything to stop it.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 27 @ 11:09 AM ET
If he does one of Streit AMac or Coburn and manages to pick up a few mid round picks by moving Emery, Carlo, Schultz or Rinaldo I think its a good deadline. No reason to stand pat with this team.
- hereticpride


I don't think Amac is tradeable right now, same for Streit due to their cap hits/years. Coburn could possibly fetch you something nice.

I don't think any team will want Rinaldo, let alone for 2 more years. Carlo was a scrap pile pickup who's played poorly, so I think Emery and Schultz are your 2 most viable guys there.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 27 @ 11:09 AM ET
That to me is the most interesting question from now until draft day. There are some interesting hints but nothing concrete. I really wish we knew what was in that draft package last year offered to Florida to move up. I think that would give a good idea of what he thinks of the current team and specific players and or prospects.

He says he expected the Flyers to make the playoffs this year but supposedly wanted to lottery protect the 1st round pick which makes you think he wasn't all that sure.

He traded Hartnell for Umberger, a worst player on a similar contract. Was it to get Hartnell off the team or really for capspace years from now? If it was for capspace in the future what about the present?

Andrew MacDonald? Why?

Rinaldo extension? Again, Why?

He says he isn't tanking but he hasn't done anything to stop it.

- psuhockey


Didn't Holmgren do the Amac extension?
As for Rinaldo, his entire cap hit can be buried in the AHL if the Flyers wish to do so. Low risk signing.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jan 27 @ 11:11 AM ET
Petr Straka recalled if no one posted that yet

EDIT: Also saw Raffl is sick....so the kid appears to be getting a shot
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Jan 27 @ 11:12 AM ET
I personally wouldn't trade Streit, and I'm not worried about his play falling off.
- MJL


I don't think streit has been that bad. he's 4th in scoring in the whole league for defensemen. His game in his own end isn't great, but isn't awful either. He'll make a few lazy defensive plays or just bonehead plays in his own zone but I really don't think those mistakes have been all that often.
Daveflyers36
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.20.2011

Jan 27 @ 11:13 AM ET
Didn't Holmgren do the Amac extension?
As for Rinaldo, his entire cap hit can be buried in the AHL if the Flyers wish to do so. Low risk signing.

- jmatchett383



I believe you are correct about Amac. As for Rinaldo in the AHL. I like going to phantoms games, I don't want to see him there either. He needs to be gone.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 27 @ 11:14 AM ET
I believe you are correct about Amac. As for Rinaldo in the AHL. I like going to phantoms games, I don't want to see him there either. He needs to be gone.
- Daveflyers36


They could assign him to the ECHL if they wanted to.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 27 @ 11:14 AM ET
I don't think Amac is tradeable right now, same for Streit due to their cap hits/years. Coburn could possibly fetch you something nice.

I don't think any team will want Rinaldo, let alone for 2 more years. Carlo was a scrap pile pickup who's played poorly, so I think Emery and Schultz are your 2 most viable guys there.

- jmatchett383


Streit only has 2 years after this year. I think there would be multiple suitors at the deadline if the flyers go that route.
Daveflyers36
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.20.2011

Jan 27 @ 11:15 AM ET
I don't think streit has been that bad. he's 4th in scoring in the whole league for defensemen. His game in his own end isn't great, but isn't awful either. He'll make a few lazy defensive plays or just bonehead plays in his own zone but I really don't think those mistakes have been all that often.
- benjichronic



Streit should be traded for the right price. I mean seriously, how many more decent years are you going to get with him? Next year at the most. Is it really worth keeping him for that one more year if you can get something good in return?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 27 @ 11:15 AM ET
This.

Ultimately it doesn't matter how long Streit keeps up his play. It will be at least two more seasons before were seriously contending. Sell high on Streit. You aren't doing that with anyone else.

- hereticpride



I think it does matter. The Flyers shouldn't be throwing away any seasons, including the next two. Don't sacrifice the future to win now, but there is no reason why they can't continue to try and win and make the playoffs, as well as build for the future. There should be a midle ground.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jan 27 @ 11:15 AM ET
Tim Panaccio @tpanotchCSN · 7m 7 minutes ago

Petr Straka recalled from Phantoms to replace Raffl


edit: I'm always so leight
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 27 @ 11:15 AM ET
Streit only has 2 years after this year. I think there would be multiple suitors at the deadline if the flyers go that route.
- Just5


I think they could move him, but I don't think the return they'd get would be adequate to his value to the team right now. I'd want at least 2 2nds, one this year, for him.
Daveflyers36
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.20.2011

Jan 27 @ 11:16 AM ET
They could assign him to the ECHL if they wanted to.
- jmatchett383



I live in the Reading area, there are enough punks running around.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jan 27 @ 11:17 AM ET
Tim Panaccio @tpanotchCSN · 7m 7 minutes ago

Petr Straka recalled from Phantoms to replace Raffl


edit: I'm always so leight

- Streit2ThePoint


Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jan 27 @ 11:17 AM ET
Tim Panaccio @tpanotchCSN · 7m 7 minutes ago

Petr Straka recalled from Phantoms to replace Raffl


edit: I'm always so leight

- Streit2ThePoint

Flyers should play the ahl defense, and tank the rest of the games.

poop nevermind the ahl defense is better. [/img]
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 27 @ 11:17 AM ET
I live in the Reading area, there are enough punks running around.
- Daveflyers36


Stop living in places and going to other places.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 27 @ 11:18 AM ET
Tim Panaccio @tpanotchCSN · 7m 7 minutes ago

Petr Straka recalled from Phantoms to replace Raffl


edit: I'm always so leight

- Streit2ThePoint


Interesting. I wonder why Leier didn't get the call-up.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Jan 27 @ 11:18 AM ET
Streit should be traded for the right price. I mean seriously, how many more decent years are you going to get with him? Next year at the most. Is it really worth keeping him for that one more year if you can get something good in return?
- Daveflyers36


Yeah I guess that makes sense. Especially with the guys we have in the system, start making room and get another rebuild piece back in the possible trade. One more productive year from him won't mean all that much.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 27 @ 11:18 AM ET
I think they could move him, but I don't think the return they'd get would be adequate to his value to the team right now. I'd want at least 2 2nds, one this year, for him.
- jmatchett383



I wouldn't make that deal. If someone wants to overpay for Striet, fine. Otherwise, I keep him in the fold.
Daveflyers36
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.20.2011

Jan 27 @ 11:19 AM ET
I think it does matter. The Flyers shouldn't be throwing away any seasons, including the next two. Don't sacrifice the future to win now, but there is no reason why they can't continue to try and win and make the playoffs, as well as build for the future. There should be a midle ground.
- MJL



Nobody is saying to tank it but the playoffs this year are completely out of the question. It is not going to happen. The Flyers are six games out of the wild card with 3 teams ahead of them. It is not a realistic goal.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 27 @ 11:20 AM ET
I think they could move him, but I don't think the return they'd get would be adequate to his value to the team right now. I'd want at least 2 2nds, one this year, for him.
- jmatchett383


I'm all for the fire sale but even I don't think I'd dump him for 2 2nds. Need to get a 1st.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 27 @ 11:20 AM ET
Nobody is saying to tank it but the playoffs this year are completely out of the question. It is not going to happen. The Flyers are six games out of the wild card with 3 teams ahead of them. It is not a realistic goal.
- Daveflyers36



I'm aware of the situation the Flyers are in the standings.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 27 @ 11:20 AM ET
Tim Panaccio @tpanotchCSN · 7m 7 minutes ago

Petr Straka recalled from Phantoms to replace Raffl


edit: I'm always so leight

- Streit2ThePoint


Interesting call up. Guess its time to see what we have on the farm. I'm very concerned about Laughton. If its really bad. Shut him down for the season
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 27 @ 11:21 AM ET
Interesting. I wonder why Leier didn't get the call-up.
- jmatchett383


AHL is on all star break. Many of the guys have traveled home or on vacation. They were probably limited by who was actually in the area.
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