I don't think that really answers the question. That's just naming a few players. I don't follow the NBA that closely anymore, because the game is just unwatchable in my view. When I was following it, a 2nd round pick wasn't very valuable.
The question is really what are the odds of the Sixers getting a good player with one of those picks?
- MJL

The NBA is changing into more of a team game. Thats why you have the Hawks running away with East despite having no superstar talent. Kyle Korver is one of their best players.

The chances of finding an all star in the 2nd round are pretty small, but you can find good, rotational players in the 2nd round. Depth is important and Hinkie has shown an ability to find good 2nd round talent dating back to his time in Houston.

Where's that draft pick value chart?
- jmatchett383

andy reid took it to kansas city.

The NBA is changing into more of a team game. Thats why you have the Hawks running away with East despite having no superstar talent. Kyle Korver is one of their best players.

The chances of finding an all star in the 2nd round are pretty small, but you can find good, rotational players in the 2nd round. Depth is important and Hinkie has shown an ability to find good 2nd round talent dating back to his time in Houston.
- PhillySportsGuy

i love this.

The NBA is changing into more of a team game. Thats why you have the Hawks running away with East despite having no superstar talent. Kyle Korver is one of their best players.

The chances of finding an all star in the 2nd round are pretty small, but you can find good, rotational players in the 2nd round. Depth is important and Hinkie has shown an ability to find good 2nd round talent dating back to his time in Houston.
- PhillySportsGuy

Since I offer nothing but sarcastic shots at the NBA, can you tell me: are the Sixers really a team full of players that can one day contend, or are they simply slightly better than the previous few years?

I mean, Noel seems like he could one day be a fairly okay player. Joel Embiid has yet to play 1 minute of pro basketball. The rest of the team seem like they're okay, bonafide NBA players, but not stars. They just seem like an organization which is even more cursed than the Flyers.

i love this.
- stayinthefnnet

He's lying. Kyle Korver is white. Mookie Blaylock is the guy leading the charge.

There are people saying, more or less, that he has no value as a member of the team since we will not contend for years, so he should be moved for a (nondescript) return. It's the assets of that return and his perceived value as a member of the team next year and beyond that are the question.
- jmatchett383

He has value as a member of the team, but he is also in his late 30's. If one feels they'll be a contender next year, then yeah, he's probably more valuable than the return he will get.

But if they're two or three years away, then Streit may well have more value as a trade chip. If he's worth a 1st rounder and a good prospect now, I'd strongly consider it. But I also don't think they're going to be a strong playoff contender for another 2-3 years. At that point, Streit is 39 or 40.

If he's not worth a 1st & prospect now, I don't deal him. But I definitely solicit offers for him.

He's lying. Kyle Korver is white. Mookie Blaylock is the guy leading the charge.
- jmatchett383

my man mookie.

He has value as a member of the team, but he is also in his late 30's. If one feels they'll be a contender next year, then yeah, he's probably more valuable than the return he will get.

But if they're two or three years away, then Streit may well have more value as a trade chip. If he's worth a 1st rounder and a good prospect now, I'd strongly consider it. But I also don't think they're going to be a strong playoff contender for another 2-3 years. At that point, Streit is 39 or 40.

If he's not worth a 1st & prospect now, I don't deal him. But I definitely solicit offers for him.
- Jsaquella

There's the burn. There are people saying move him for a 2nd, or 2 2nds, or a 1st, or a 1st and a 2nd, or a 1st and a prospect. The returns varies widely.

So, if the best offer they get for Streit at this year's TDL is (theoretically) a late 4th rounder, you'd do it?

Don't get me wrong, I understand the risks. I just think that he can still provide some value to this team moving forward, both on and off the ice. So I would be hesitant to just dump him.
- jmatchett383

I like that you used the word hesitant. Shows you have an open mind.

For example, if I had a second offer on the table to bring back a young upgrade to one of the many needs on this team, but needed a bit more salary room to fit him in, then probably yes.

So it's difficult to say I definitely wouldn't move him for a 4th rounder if that's the best I could do if there were other positive moving parts to the decision.

I like that you used the word hesitant. Shows you have an open mind.

For example, if I had a second offer on the table to bring back a young upgrade to one of the many needs on this team, but needed a bit more salary room to fit him in, then probably yes.

So it's difficult to say I definitely wouldn't move him for a 4th rounder if that's the best I could do if there were other positive moving parts to the decision.
- 77rams

if theres one thing jmatch doesnt have...

He has value as a member of the team, but he is also in his late 30's. If one feels they'll be a contender next year, then yeah, he's probably more valuable than the return he will get.

But if they're two or three years away, then Streit may well have more value as a trade chip. If he's worth a 1st rounder and a good prospect now, I'd strongly consider it. But I also don't think they're going to be a strong playoff contender for another 2-3 years. At that point, Streit is 39 or 40.

If he's not worth a 1st & prospect now, I don't deal him. But I definitely solicit offers for him.
- Jsaquella

I'd move him for only a first in a heartbeat.

Since I offer nothing but sarcastic shots at the NBA, can you tell me: are the Sixers really a team full of players that can one day contend, or are they simply slightly better than the previous few years?

I mean, Noel seems like he could one day be a fairly okay player. Joel Embiid has yet to play 1 minute of pro basketball. The rest of the team seem like they're okay, bonafide NBA players, but not stars. They just seem like an organization which is even more cursed than the Flyers.
- jmatchett383

MCW former rookie of year, come next season our back end of the court will be Noel and Embid. Two giants. and all of them will still be on only 3 year entry level rookie contracts. And with how we are playing this year, we should get top 3 pick again. So we have trade bait with all of these guys, but even if we stay with them, the Sixers have a boat load of money to sign couple of free agents, perhaps even a true all-star as well.

if theres one thing jmatch doesnt have...
- stayinthefnnet

You shut your trap, young whippersnapper. You young thugs are all the same. I do have an open mind, and anyone who says otherwise is wrong!

Since I offer nothing but sarcastic shots at the NBA, can you tell me: are the Sixers really a team full of players that can one day contend, or are they simply slightly better than the previous few years?

I mean, Noel seems like he could one day be a fairly okay player. Joel Embiid has yet to play 1 minute of pro basketball. The rest of the team seem like they're okay, bonafide NBA players, but not stars. They just seem like an organization which is even more cursed than the Flyers.
- jmatchett383

They're all just very young. It would be like putting together a blue line of Ghost, Alt, Sanheim, Morin, Hagg and Grossmann. They would be terrible, but we'd still be excited about the future and we'd be happy to get a top pick in a good draft this season.

I don't want to go on too long and breakdown every player, but they do have some nice pieces. They are a (frank)ing mess offensively. By far, the worst offensive team in the league. They are already a good defensive team with room to grow. Noel is one of the 10 best defensive big men in the game already.

Embiid will be good if he's healthy and Saric just won the award for being the best young player in Europe. It's a fairly prestigious award and guys who have won it usually go on to become good NBA players.

NBA development is a long and arduous process. They will be bad for at least 2 more years after this. They've set themselves up with a ton of talent though. They continue to stockpile overseas talent and draft picks so they can continue to add pieces even when they become better. They have enough cap space to sign any two players in the league too.

You shut your trap, young whippersnapper. You young thugs are all the same. I do have an open mind, and anyone who says otherwise is wrong!
- jmatchett383

thats more like it.

There's the burn. There are people saying move him for a 2nd, or 2 2nds, or a 1st, or a 1st and a 2nd, or a 1st and a prospect. The returns varies widely.
- jmatchett383

For one second rounder I wouldn't do it. I would consider strongly accepting two second rounders if they fell in the top 40

He has value as a member of the team, but he is also in his late 30's. If one feels they'll be a contender next year, then yeah, he's probably more valuable than the return he will get.

But if they're two or three years away, then Streit may well have more value as a trade chip. If he's worth a 1st rounder and a good prospect now, I'd strongly consider it. But I also don't think they're going to be a strong playoff contender for another 2-3 years. At that point, Streit is 39 or 40.

If he's not worth a 1st & prospect now, I don't deal him. But I definitely solicit offers for him.
- Jsaquella

I don't think Streit has that value right now with two more seasons left on his contract. By most accounts, teams are reluctant to take on term. At 36, he would be a big risk at staying productive and healthy for the next two seasons and most teams, unlike the Flyers, don't like to burn millions on LTIR. Streit will have better value the closer he gets to the end of his contract IMO.

They're all just very young. It would be like putting together a blue line of Ghost, Alt, Sanheim, Morin, Hagg and Grossmann. They would be terrible, but we'd still be excited about the future and we'd be happy to get a top pick in a good draft this season.

I don't want to go on too long and breakdown every player, but they do have some nice pieces. They are a (frank)ing mess offensively. By far, the worst offensive team in the league. They are already a good defensive team with room to grow. Noel is one of the 10 best defensive big men in the game already.

Embiid will be good if he's healthy and Saric just won the award for being the best young player in Europe. It's a fairly prestigious award and guys who have won it usually go on to become good NBA players.

NBA development is a long and arduous process. They will be bad for at least 2 more years after this. They've set themselves up with a ton of talent though. They continue to stockpile overseas talent and draft picks so they can continue to add pieces even when they become better. They have enough cap space to sign any two players in the league too.
- PhillySportsGuy

and that can be huge in the nba. i know you said its more team oriented, and i agree its getting there, but the league power still shifts heavily with stars. if/when they get on the cusp of something good in 2 years time, being able to bring in an established star who believes in the direction will be huge.

They're all just very young. It would be like putting together a blue line of Ghost, Alt, Sanheim, Morin, Hagg and Grossmann. They would be terrible, but we'd still be excited about the future and we'd be happy to get a top pick in a good draft this season.

I don't want to go on too long and breakdown every player, but they do have some nice pieces. They are a (frank)ing mess offensively. By far, the worst offensive team in the league. They are already a good defensive team with room to grow. Noel is one of the 10 best defensive big men in the game already.

Embiid will be good if he's healthy and Saric just won the award for being the best young player in Europe. It's a fairly prestigious award and guys who have won it usually go on to become good NBA players.

NBA development is a long and arduous process. They will be bad for at least 2 more years after this. They've set themselves up with a ton of talent though. They continue to stockpile overseas talent and draft picks so they can continue to add pieces even when they become better. They have enough cap space to sign any two players in the league too.
- PhillySportsGuy

I just hope it all works out and we can contend in nearish future. Sixers were such a joy to watch late 90s early 2000s. My dad was one of the team dentists and I was able to attend every home game. Some incredible memories with them, along with a great time for NBA. hard to watch these days personally.

Who plays center? Richie or Giroux?
- Daveflyers36

giroux

and that can be huge in the nba. i know you said its more team oriented, and i agree its getting there, but the league power still shifts heavily with stars. if/when they get on the cusp of something good in 2 years time, being able to bring in an established star who believes in the direction will be huge.
- stayinthefnnet

I feel the NBA is entering a bit of a golden era for talent around the league. There are so many teams with such deep rotations. 10 years ago, every team had one star and a bunch of roll players.

The 2001 Sixers wouldn't even make the playoffs in the west right now

I feel the NBA is entering a bit of a golden era for talent around the league. There are so many teams with such deep rotations. 10 years ago, every team had one star and a bunch of roll players.

The 2001 Sixers wouldn't even make the playoffs in the west right now
- PhillySportsGuy

Well technically the Sixers would never make the playoffs in the west

I just hope it all works out and we can contend in nearish future. Sixers were such a joy to watch late 90s early 2000s. My dad was one of the team dentists and I was able to attend every home game. Some incredible memories with them, along with a great time for NBA. hard to watch these days personally.
- arichardson22

It's going to take patience. They are going to be bad for a while, but they have the chance of building a team with sustained success.

I trust Hinkie so much more than any other GM in the city to make a smart move. He's made a ton of trades and hasn't lost one. He's even done a great job drafting.

I feel the NBA is entering a bit of a golden era for talent around the league. There are so many teams with such deep rotations. 10 years ago, every team had one star and a bunch of roll players.

The 2001 Sixers wouldn't even make the playoffs in the west right now
- PhillySportsGuy

yeah. again i really like this. i can turn on a random nba game on espn and actually enjoy myself for a little bit again.

there was a good stretch of years where it was either repeated iso plays, poor 3 pointers thrown up with 19 seconds on the shot clock, absolutely no ball movement.

its slowly starting to draw me back. because i still think basketball itself is a gorgeous game.

Is there a single person that has said he has to be moved right now, for whatever the best deal is? I haven't back read, but it sure seems like most people who are in favor of moving Streit are saying to do it for a significant return, not saying to trade him just to do it.

Even those saying that his value will never be higher aren't saying that he needs to be dumped for a 3rd rounder
- Jsaquella

Exactly
Someone's offering a. 2nd for Streit, no thanks. But, if the offer is a 1st or better, the deal needs to be made.