Grigorenko starts next year with the big club unless they feel they can sneak him through waivers.

He's waiver eligible next year.

This season might be a make or brake year with this organization.
- dadeadhead

that would be a big mistake

that would be a big mistake
- homiedclown

Agreed but stranger things have happened.

My guess is he is included in a deal to land a winger.

Difference is this isn't the environment for a 20 year old to produce

They need to be insulated, the more talent that's here the more they can bring them along slowly

If Vanek was 20 on today's Sabres he isn't scoring 20 plus as a rookie
- sbroads24

The Sabres weren't great when they drafted Housley at #6 out of HS and he produced, I forgot to mention Turgeon picked #1, not a lot of talent then either. It's not all about numbers either. Grigorenko isn't showing the skills and talent I had hoped to see..yet.

coho needs to be traded or bought out
- homiedclown

I have a feeling he's kept in hopes of turning it around on a better team next season. I doubt he's here when we are good though

Agreed but stranger things have happened.

My guess is he is included in a deal to land a winger.
- dadeadhead

I agree, I mentioned I talked to a Buff News staffer, not a writer, who talked to TM at The Sawnnie House and he didn't speak glowingly of him and said "I didn't draft him"

The Sabres weren't great when they drafted Housley at #6 out of HS and he produced, I forgot to mention Turgeon picked #1, not a lot of talent then either. It's not all about numbers either. Grigorenko isn't showing the skills and talent I had hoped to see..yet.
- GilPerreault11

To be fair, this isn't just a team with not a lot of talent, it's one of the worst teams in decades. We have a future 2nd line winger playing the role of #1 center. We have an average player in Matt Moulson as our premier goal scorer.

The Sabres weren't great when they drafted Housley at #6 out of HS and he produced, I forgot to mention Turgeon picked #1, not a lot of talent then either. It's not all about numbers either. Grigorenko isn't showing the skills and talent I had hoped to see..yet.
- GilPerreault11

They weren't great but they were a playoff team in 81/82.


The Housley pick was a pick they obtained from LA when they traded Korab.


The Andreychuk pick was their own at 16(only 21 players were selected in the 1st rd)

Personally I think we can make a big improvement next season.

Make a trade for a legit top 6 LW.
Bring up Pysyk/McCabe
Armia will be full time
Grigorenko will be full time
McDavid could be here
Zadorov grooms half a season in Rochester
Sign a top 9 FA
- sbroads24[url]

Can we trade for a top line LW? Easier said than done. And if we do, I'm guessing we'd have to give up Myers which creates a hole on defense
Grigorenko, Armia, Reinhart and likely even McDavid won't be consistent in their 1st nhl seasons
I'm guessing it's not till 2016 that we start to see some real improvement

Agreed but stranger things have happened.

My guess is he is included in a deal to land a winger.
- dadeadhead

I feel the same. I cant look at any of prospects and think yup, hes gonna be a 35+ goal guy.

They weren't great but they were a playoff team in 81/82.


The Housley pick was a pick they obtained from LA when they traded Korab.
- dadeadhead

Was it the trade for Korab or Rick Martin? Anyway, there have been young players who have played a strong game and produced and we are waiting for some of our prospects to even light it up in Rochester like Pominville and Roy did.

Was it the trade for Korab or Rick Martin? Anyway, there have been young players who have played a strong game and produced and we are waiting for some of our prospects to even light it up in Rochester like Pominville and Roy did.
- GilPerreault11

Martin was the trade that got them Barrasso.

Can we trade for a top line LW? Easier said than done. And if we do, I'm guessing we'd have to give up Myers which creates a hole on defense
Grigorenko, Armia, Reinhart and likely even McDavid won't be consistent in their 1st nhl seasons
I'm guessing it's not till 2016 that we start to see some real improvement
- jdfitz77

We have 2 late 1sts, 2 2nds and a ton of prospects. Myers doesn't have to move

I'd package both picks plus say Foligno for a 30 goal scorer. Wingers are available every year

I'd actually look to the Hawks to try and pry Sharp away
.they need cap relief soon.

Blues 1st plus another piece

Martin was the trade that got them Barrasso.
- dadeadhead

Those were two bad trades by the Kings, I'm too lazy to go back and see who their GM was but that guy gave us two top 6 picks for an injured player in Martin and an old, slow Dman in Korab.

http://beta.espn.go.com/r...coll-was-trained-assassin

I'd actually look to the Hawks to try and pry Sharp away
.they need cap relief soon.

Blues 1st plus another piece
- sbroads24

Chi
Bos
Philly
StL
Col

Is where I'd look

I have a feeling he's kept in hopes of turning it around on a better team next season. I doubt he's here when we are good though
- sbroads24

I agree as well
Hodgson has no trade value right now
Unless he's in some kind of a package I don't see him being traded yet

Those were two bad trades by the Kings, I'm too lazy to go back and see who their GM was but that guy gave us two top 6 picks for an injured player in Martin and an old, slow Dman in Korab.
- GilPerreault11

George Maguire

So bad he doesn't even have a Wiki page.

We have 2 late 1sts, 2 2nds and a ton of prospects. Myers doesn't have to move

I'd package both picks plus say Foligno for a 30 goal scorer. Wingers are available every year
- sbroads24

Maybe
I think Murray might wanna keep those picks an draft "his" guys
Guess we'll see

Chi
Bos
Philly
StL
Col

Is where I'd look
- dadeadhead

Since u brought up Colorado...
I hope we do NOT trade for O'Reilly
I think it's pretty much a sure thing tht he tests the market to get the biggest possible contract
I like him a lot, but considering what it'll take to get him, it's too risky that he'll walk after next season and we lose him for nothing

The next 5 games are pretty important for the tank effort. The Sabres could win 3 of these games easily.

yeah I can find nothing, other then words from RJ on the radio

I am surprised nobody else caught it, since I drink at work
- homiedclown

Definitely heard him say it last night, and it was definitely before the 3rd period since I shut it off after 2.

Myers- 36 games played - 1 goal - 7 assists - 8 points - (-7) - 45 penalty minutes

58 shots - 1.70 shooting %

Weber- 35 games played - 1 goal - 5 assists - 6 points - (-11) - 43 penalty minutes

18 shots - 5.60 shooting %


Yep, Myers is certainly head and shoulders above Weber



Gotta run...

Draper didn't start a game until 11/5/92
http://www.hockey-referen...d/drapeto01/gamelog/1993/

Puppa's 1st game started was 10/10/92
http://www.hockey-referen...p/puppada01/gamelog/1993/

Fuhr's 1st Buffalo start was 2/3/93
http://www.hockey-referen.../f/fuhrgr01/gamelog/1993/


Hasek started the 1st game of the season 10/8/92
http://www.hockey-referen...h/hasekdo01/gamelog/1993/
- dadeadhead

Maybe somewhere between 1/6 and 2/27, where there's a large gap of no games? (not sure if he was injured then or what)

Grigorenko starts next year with the big club unless they feel they can sneak him through waivers.

He's waiver eligible next year.

This season might be a make or brake year with this organization.
- dadeadhead

He can be recalled to the big club with no risk, it's now only when being sent down that you have to clear anything - so he will likely start in Rochester and be there for a while until they're "completely" sure he's going to stay full time.