Boston's on the upswing, Julien won't be axed
- TheThrill

yeah but you gotta take a step back. imagine they qualify for the playoffs and draw Montreal or Detroit in the first round and lose. on the heels of a second round exit last year... combine that with an impatient owner. combine THAT with the possibility of Babcock hitting the open market and Boston being a good fit. i don't think Julien is safe by any means.

yeah but you gotta take a step back. imagine they qualify for the playoffs and draw Montreal or Detroit in the first round and lose. on the heels of a second round exit last year... combine that with an impatient owner. combine THAT with the possibility of Babcock hitting the open market and Boston being a good fit. i don't think Julien is safe by any means.
- DoubleDown

to me boston/ san jose are potential threat. babcock wants to win, #1. hes not going to philly or TO.

RoR is minus 7 this year lol

i dont put much stock into plus/minus for individuals.. but he is on pace for less than 50P as well.

not worth his contract imo
- Dozzer

i like him. he's not the ideal #1 centre but he is one of the best 2-way players around and through his career, he's generally put up numbers on par with JVR (till this year). you're right though, he's gonna get paaaaaid.

no.. i am not as enamored with RoR as some

Ror is good.. dont get me wrong.. but the way the avs have handled him has set his salary too high for what he brings to the table imo
- Dozzer

Greedy kid, got his money, and now is not playing to his contract..

to me boston/ san jose are potential threat. babcock wants to win, #1. hes not going to philly or TO.
- wingz4life

well i definitely think the potential for Babcock could hasten Julien's exit, good a coach as he is. as much as Boston doesn't look like a powerhouse anymore, they have a good organization and there's still a lot of talent on that roster. i could see Boston going after Babcock even if they have a dynamite second half. would be funny then if Julien ends up in Detroit.

well i definitely think the potential for Babcock could hasten Julien's exit, good a coach as he is. as much as Boston doesn't look like a powerhouse anymore, they have a good organization and there's still a lot of talent on that roster. i could see Boston going after Babcock even if they have a dynamite second half. would be funny then if Julien ends up in Detroit.
- DoubleDown

no, they will go with Blashill. dont know what babcock sees. he could see Chara breaking down and Lucic the way he plays will sooner. San Jose with marleau and thornton getting up there in age

i like him. he's not the ideal #1 centre but he is one of the best 2-way players around and through his career, he's generally put up numbers on par with JVR (till this year). you're right though, he's gonna get paaaaaid.
- DoubleDown

This to me is what's wrong with the current cap as it is: no longer is it revenue that's dictating who can retain and attract talent, it's winning organizations, and there's seems to be only a handful of those nowadays.

Greedy kid, got his money, and now is not playing to his contract..
- bixll

he's having a rough year, but he was worth every penny of his 2 year/$10 million contract.

well i definitely think the potential for Babcock could hasten Julien's exit, good a coach as he is. as much as Boston doesn't look like a powerhouse anymore, they have a good organization and there's still a lot of talent on that roster. i could see Boston going after Babcock even if they have a dynamite second half. would be funny then if Julien ends up in Detroit.
- DoubleDown

I read something a while ago about Holland mentioning they have Blashill ready to go, and at a fraction of the cost.

he's having a rough year, but he was worth every penny of his 2 year/$10 million contract.
- DoubleDown

They all are. Patty is messin with his team, way too much. Has them all messed up.

They all are. Patty is messin with his team, way too much. Has them all messed up.
- bixll

Stastny may have been a little more important to a young team than they thought.

This to me is what's wrong with the current cap as it is: no longer is it revenue that's dictating who can retain and attract talent, it's winning organizations, and there's seems to be only a handful of those nowadays.
- gravyface

i don't see it that way. how many great UFAs even make it to UFA? 90% or more get re-signed. and the big ones who do make it... they're not all flocking to Chicago, LA or Boston. Parise and Suter went to a mediocre organization.

I read something a while ago about Holland mentioning they have Blashill ready to go, and at a fraction of the cost.
- Woderwick

right i forgot about him. i also read that one issue between Holland/Babcock is that Babcock is trying to use his Olympic success as leverage, while Holland doesn't feel he should pay for that. which is ludicrous. because if Babcock hits the open market, his Olympic success will absolutely boost his value.

i don't see it that way. how many great UFAs even make it to UFA? 90% or more get re-signed. and the big ones who do make it... they're not all flocking to Chicago, LA or Boston. Parise and Suter went to a mediocre organization.
- DoubleDown

Waiting for the NBA Miami scenario to happen. A core of top end talent taking short term deals at a relative discount to win a cup.

i don't see it that way. how many great UFAs even make it to UFA? 90% or more get re-signed. and the big ones who do make it... they're not all flocking to Chicago, LA or Boston. Parise and Suter went to a mediocre organization.
- DoubleDown

Praise and Suter went home, and home just happens to be a decent city with relatively friendly media and some privacy. Its still a good hockey town, but its nowhere near as crazy as the Canadian markets

right i forgot about him. i also read that one issue between Holland/Babcock is that Babcock is trying to use his Olympic success as leverage, while Holland doesn't feel he should pay for that. which is ludicrous. because if Babcock hits the open market, his Olympic success will absolutely boost his value.
- DoubleDown

What does Illitch feel is what matters. He paid Prince Fielder what, 35million to go away...

i don't see it that way. how many great UFAs even make it to UFA? 90% or more get re-signed. and the big ones who do make it... they're not all flocking to Chicago, LA or Boston. Parise and Suter went to a mediocre organization.
- DoubleDown

But that's the issue: if you have a winning organization, you can retain top-tier talent for discounts because the attraction is to stay with the winning organization, thus retaining the core.

right i forgot about him. i also read that one issue between Holland/Babcock is that Babcock is trying to use his Olympic success as leverage, while Holland doesn't feel he should pay for that. which is ludicrous. because if Babcock hits the open market, his Olympic success will absolutely boost his value.
- DoubleDown

I could see Hollands point of view...Olympics vs NHL seem like two different scenarios. Blashill knows the system, knows Babcock's style...seems like a pretty good fit. Not sure if Blashill has the personality of Babcock, but he's been involved with a good part of that line up already.

What does Illitch feel is what matters. He paid Prince Fielder what, 35million to go away...
- wingz4life

The Illitch/Holland relationship seems to be one of a kind.

Greedy kid, got his money, and now is not playing to his contract..
- bixll

yeah.. he wont get that kind of money again with his production.

be interesting to see however.. i wont lie

but he's never cracked 70P in a season

Stastny may have been a little more important to a young team than they thought.
- Woderwick

I totally agree... If it aint broke, why (frank) with it.. They should have paid him.

yeah.. he wont get that kind of money again with his production.

be interesting to see however.. i wont lie

but he's never cracked 70P in a season
- Dozzer

He'll get overvalued by GM's and then there's the desperation factor which is good for at least an extra $1M+ and 2 or 3 more years term.

yeah.. he wont get that kind of money again with his production.

be interesting to see however.. i wont lie

but he's never cracked 70P in a season
- Dozzer

i think he'll get 7 years at around $6.5 million. and if he gives you 55-60 points and great 2-way play, that's pretty fair.

The Illitch/Holland relationship seems to be one of a kind.
- Woderwick

I personally think that if Babs came to TO and actually won, it would cement him as one of , if not the best coach in history.

He'll get overvalued by GM's and then there's the desperation factor which is good for at least an extra $1M+ and 2 or 3 more years term.
- Woderwick

well i hope its someone else's mistake