Would mcdavid fetch you weber or doughty?
- Snagglepuss

Can't see it...

Would mcdavid fetch you weber or doughty?
- Snagglepuss

Yikes. Good question. Weber's 29 though. Not sure if one wants to really do that.

Would mcdavid fetch you weber or doughty?
- Snagglepuss

To either respective team? Because it's all about context.

Yikes. Good question. Weber's 29 though. Not sure if one wants to really do that.
- Tee-Dot

It depresses me that 29 is old

Would mcdavid fetch you weber or doughty?
- Snagglepuss

Don't think the pick gets moved. Whoever drafts McDavid will keep McDavid. Unless McDavid comes out straight up and says (frank) you all im going to the leafs to be the saviour and pull a Lindros

Can't see it...
- aminnes

Yes... A 19 year old pegged as the next generational player. Weber and Doughty are franchise players but not generational and they are both into their prime years.

It depresses me that 29 is old
- DoubleDown

does it depress you that 20 is old for an OHL player?

Would mcdavid fetch you weber or doughty?
- Snagglepuss

I'd do it if I was LA or Nashville.

McDavid is a "once every decade" type player

It depresses me that 29 is old
- DoubleDown

No kidding. Ness and I were joking about the same thing the other day...

She asks "Kessel's still young right?".

I'm like "Nope... getting a little long in the tooth. He's 27".

Not really, if there is no goalie out there that is worth getting or age appropriate compared to bernier, then signing bernier to that contract is fine, just as the flames did for hiller. As long as we having someone relatively decent holding down the fort with young talent whichever way we go, either that be selling off the team or not, we still need someone there in net. And i dont want reimer there holding down the fort. So relieving reimers salary cap will bring some cap back to us. And the Dion trade was fine because we sent out garbage the other way. Least Dion has some value. 7M that he got signed to is still moveable.
- DougGilmour_93

Number one Bernier hasn't played a third of the games Hiller has. 2, Hiller is signed for 2 years, not 5 or 6 or 7... Reimer has jack to do with it, other than if necessary he can play next year if Bernier is unreasonable and wants out. Bernier hasn't proven nearly close to enough to garner a long term deal, the Leafs as far as I know still have control over him as well in FA terms. You give him 2 years thats the most, if he doesn't like it you qualify him. Handing money willy nilly to guys that aren't proven is the exact way they got in this mess to begin with, you really want to hand 5 years of the Leafs net to a guy with nary a playoff game to his name, thats nuts IMO...

Makes me sick thinking about what Edmonton might do

It depresses me that 29 is old
- DoubleDown

Thats just priming for d men...

Yes... A 19 year old pegged as the next generational player. Weber and Doughty are franchise players but not generational and they are both into their prime years.
- Santo_44

D men, just don't see it, but McDavid is the poop...

Number one Bernier hasn't played a third of the games Hiller has. 2, Hiller is signed for 2 years, not 5 or 6 or 7... Reimer has jack to do with it, other than if necessary he can play next year if Bernier is unreasonable and wants out. Bernier hasn't proven nearly close to enough to garner a long term deal, the Leafs as far as I know still have control over him as well in FA terms. You give him 2 years thats the most, if he doesn't like it you qualify him. Handing money willy nilly to guys that aren't proven is the exact way they got in this mess to begin with, you really want to hand 5 years of the Leafs net to a guy with nary a playoff game to his name, thats nuts IMO...
- aminnes

so give him a 3-4 year deal and nothing past that

Gotta face the facts there's no doubt in my mind eichel or mcdavid will be a oilers, I'm just clueless on who gets shipped outta town.

I'd do it if I was LA or Nashville.

McDavid is a "once every decade" type player
- BINGO!

Edmonton with either of those two would contend.

Thats just priming for d men...
- aminnes

Used to be. Now if you're a D man and you aren't an NHLer by 23, you're probably not making it.

Does George Cope still have say in what the Leafs do?

Edmonton with either of those two would contend.
- A_Tree

Not with Scrivens as the officer of the oblong onionbag.

so give him a 3-4 year deal and nothing past that
- DougGilmour_93

So what do they do if a Bibaeau is better in 2 years?.. Have a 5-6 million dollar back up? What if a young goalie becomes available via trade and comes in like Bernier did and is better than him? No way IMO, 2 years max, if your the real deal, you can do it for 2 more years and prove your consistent... but in the end the club will for sure give him what he wants, and probably move out someone else to get it done...

Used to be. Now if you're a D man and you aren't an NHLer by 23, you're probably not making it.
- BINGO!

Also Doughty plays nearly 30 min a night. He asks for more and more responsibility every year. It's definitely not a decision you'd want to make in the blink of an eye.

Makes me sick thinking about what Edmonton might do
- Snagglepuss

host another draft party?

Gotta face the facts there's no doubt in my mind eichel or mcdavid will be a oilers, I'm just clueless on who gets shipped outta town.
- Snagglepuss

If they have any sense, Lowe and MacTavish. Replaced with 2 potatoes.

Not with Scrivens as the officer of the oblong onionbag.
- Tee-Dot

So what do they do if a Bibaeau is better in 2 years?.. Have a 5-6 million dollar back up? What if a young goalie becomes available via trade and comes in like Bernier did and is better than him? No way IMO, 2 years max, if your the real deal, you can do it for 2 more years and prove your consistent... but in the end the club will for sure give him what he wants, and probably move out someone else to get it done...
- aminnes

i really don't think management is sitting there questioning their goal tending right now when there is bigger issues at the moment either way bernier will get a longer deal than 2 years