i think he was calling out more than the forwards
- DoubleDown

Glad someone is stepping up. The unfortunate thing about leading, is they also have to lead by example on the ice...and this team seems to have few who are truly capable.

leafs had a better game last night.. good start to the no RC era
- senstroll

I'm going to try to hold off on any proclamations for a week or two b/c this team and it's results are so (frank)ing confusing. I can only imagine a day when the analytics and the results actually converge.

In a game where they appear to have played a better/tighter more committed game at least the flaws and gaffs were more identifiable.

How were the pssn numbers for each line last night? Anything stand out?

@jonasTSN1050: Leafs shuffle lines again today: Winnik-Bozak-Kessel. van Riemsdyk-Kadri-Panik. Komarov-Santorelli-Clarkson. Booth-Carrick/Smith-Bodie.

This coming from a Reverend....

3 Hail Mary's and 2 Our Fathers.
- Woderwick

I am not saying we need a goon terds. We need scrappy, gritty, defensively sound players. And for everyone who thinks this kind of approach is oldschool... are you saying you want more David Booths, Kessels, Raymonds, Gardiners, etc? This Team is SOFT. Take out LEO and POLAK and we are soft as butter in July... Do you guys not see the other teams laughing at us? We are the easiest team to play against in the NHL. We need heart and soul guys. Other teams need to know that we might not win every game, but we will make you bleed if you want to win.

Guys like Leo, Polak, Carrick, Winnik.... thats the closest guys we have to these types of players and its sad...

I'm going to try to hold off on any proclamations for a week or two b/c this team and it's results are so (frank)ing confusing. I can only imagine a day when the analytics and the results actually converge.

In a game where they appear to have played a better/tighter more committed game at least the flaws and gaffs were more identifiable.

How were the pssn numbers for each line last night? Anything stand out?
- The Law

The Leafs and my golf game are very similar. One day I can drive the ball, but I can't putt. Next day I can putt but I can't chip worth a hoot. A complete game seems unthinkable.

I'm going to try to hold off on any proclamations for a week or two b/c this team and it's results are so (frank)ing confusing. I can only imagine a day when the analytics and the results actually converge.

In a game where they appear to have played a better/tighter more committed game at least the flaws and gaffs were more identifiable.

How were the pssn numbers for each line last night? Anything stand out?
- The Law

I looked around but couldn't find any game-by-game advanced stats. I think they only release them when the Leafs have REALLY bad corsi. Or fenwick? I dont know.

I am not saying we need a goon terds. We need scrappy, gritty, defensively sound players. And for everyone who thinks this kind of approach is oldschool... are you saying you want more David Booths, Kessels, Raymonds, Gardiners, etc? This Team is SOFT. Take out LEO and POLAK and we are soft as butter in July... Do you guys not see the other teams laughing at us? We are the easiest team to play against in the NHL. We need heart and soul guys. Other teams need to know that we might not win every game, but we will make you bleed if you want to win.

Guys like Leo, Polak, Carrick, Winnik.... thats the closest guys we have to these types of players and its sad...
- Hockey_Reverend

But you want McLaren back up.

What would the last 41 games have to look like to get a top 3-4 pick?

16-22-3?
- TheThrill

I just dont see it happening.. unless they trade lots of players away
Shanny doesnt seem to operate quickly

expect a bubble team with a pick in the 8-14 range

@jonasTSN1050: Leafs shuffle lines again today: Winnik-Bozak-Kessel. van Riemsdyk-Kadri-Panik. Komarov-Santorelli-Clarkson. Booth-Carrick/Smith-Bodie.
- burn

I just dont see it happening.. unless they trade lots of players away
Shanny doesnt seem to operate quickly

expect a bubble team with a pick in the 8-14 range
- senstroll

No Sens! I will not accept this!

I just dont see it happening.. unless they trade lots of players away
Shanny doesnt seem to operate quickly

expect a bubble team with a pick in the 8-14 range
- senstroll

that's pretty much all D in the draft at that range (as of now)

Hilarious.


Hockey buzz the place where you can say Someone said something regardless of the facts. I said you said it, so there...
- burn

Was he targeting Kessel?

He doesn't call him out.

- Woderwick

Winnik is a legit First liner

Let me get this right....

When Wilson says Kessel isn't reliable, he's a bitter old man who couldn't win with the Leafs. But when he defends Kessel, he's 100% right about his assessment?

You guys are pretty funny, I have to say.
- Pecafan Fan

Nah, he is just nuts sometimes.

Amazing how he doesn't see the crater sized hole in this rebuttal though.

But you want McLaren back up.
- Woderwick

That is because... WHO ELSE DO WE HAVE?

This team needs a trade to change the makeup. To much skilled, soft players. I would make a play for Richards in LA. You wouldn't have to give up much for him and he has lots of game left and could be a nice 2nd line center in our weak Eastern Conference.

@jonasTSN1050: Leafs shuffle lines again today: Winnik-Bozak-Kessel. van Riemsdyk-Kadri-Panik. Komarov-Santorelli-Clarkson. Booth-Carrick/Smith-Bodie.
- burn

Good Kessel is ineffective without FIRST LINE CENTER Tyler Bozak

That is because... WHO ELSE DO WE HAVE?

This team needs a trade to change the makeup. DO much skilled, soft players. I would make a play for Richards in LA. You wouldn't have to give up much for him and he has lots of game left and could be a nice 2nd line center in our weak Eastern Conference.
- Hockey_Reverend

You'd probably have to give up more than you would think.

I'm going to try to hold off on any proclamations for a week or two b/c this team and it's results are so (frank)ing confusing. I can only imagine a day when the analytics and the results actually converge.

In a game where they appear to have played a better/tighter more committed game at least the flaws and gaffs were more identifiable.

How were the pssn numbers for each line last night? Anything stand out?
- The Law

The lines juggled all the time last night....

http://war-on-ice.com/gam...seasongcode=2014201520594

The Leafs and my golf game are very similar. One day I can drive the ball, but I can't putt. Next day I can putt but I can't chip worth a hoot. A complete game seems unthinkable.
- Woderwick

Me too Woddy, me too. I love/hate golf much like I love/hate the Leafs.

@jonasTSN1050: Leafs shuffle lines again today: Winnik-Bozak-Kessel. van Riemsdyk-Kadri-Panik. Komarov-Santorelli-Clarkson. Booth-Carrick/Smith-Bodie.
- burn

That would be fine, if and only if Kadri takes Bozak's spot on the top PP unit. I seriously give up.

Winnik is a legit First liner
- vancity787

Sadly...so is Bozak.

Keep me away from the subway tracks today.

Good Kessel is ineffective without FIRST LINE CENTER Tyler Bozak
- BINGO!

I wouldn't know if this is the case or not. we haven't seen it for more than a period at a time.

Was he targeting Kessel?

He doesn't call him out.
- Pecafan Fan

Just kessel? No.

noticed u got a big week ahead in the HBSL!
- Lucas Neilson

oh ya.

Good Kessel is ineffective without FIRST LINE CENTER Tyler Bozak
- BINGO!

He'd be awesome on your team.