Boy are they. Marchand and Lucic (frank)ing suck Egomaniac douches bought into their own hype
- AdamFrench

Lucic is a ghost.


Fact is, I think teams aren't "scared" of them anymore. So their schtick isn't working anymore.

Rarely do the Leafs ever out shoot their opponents. Losing 6 -2 when you do is just typical. An 800 save % will not win you many games, specially on 26 shots... Piss poor start with the new coach.
- bixll

Kept the shots down, but still gave up too many quality shots. Didn't get good enough goaltending. they had 33 shots and said they outchanced them, but I don't think they did outchance them.


That shorthanded goal I think killed them. all the air out of them at that point.

You know I don't speak spanish
- Yeti1181

Lucic is a ghost.


Fact is, I think teams aren't "scared" of them anymore. So their schtick isn't working anymore.
- Pecafan Fan

Im scared of ghosts.

You're not a real doctor
- Yeti1181

Yet

Lucic is a ghost.


Fact is, I think teams aren't "scared" of them anymore. So their schtick isn't working anymore.
- Pecafan Fan

Dalton Prout sure as poop isn't

Yet
- lumlums

Evvvvvveeeeerrrrr

Dalton Prout sure as poop isn't


- AdamFrench

He wasn't ready

For Dion, I personally think that we can get more, but it depends. He's a tough one t ojudge out there.

Lupul ~~ Perron, who got a first and a player. Lupul's contract isn't as good, so we'd get a bit less, but just a 2nd is undervaluing him. Hell, Douglas Murray got two 2nds...

Clarkson I agree. Unless we can agree Philly to move him for Vinny (better player, shorter contract).

Robidas I assume ages like the rest of us, so I don't see how a 37 year-old will be 42 at the end of another 2 years?

Bozie to Dallas doesn't work IMO. They have Benn, Seguin, Spezza and Eakon all listed as C on their top 2 lines. No way they want him. Edmonton MIGHT bite, maybe Nashville (lots of C on expiring deals).

I potentially like the Kessel deal. Josi is a beast and signed to a VERY good contract going forward. It would depend on who the prospect is.

Franson you try and keep if you move Dion. See if there's any way you can get him for 5-5.5m (if not, move him). See my comment regarding Doug Murray for Franson's value.

Just my $0.02
- lumlums

Dallas plays benn spezza and seguin on a line together.

Lupul is devalued because he is the spokesman for johnson and Johnson band aids. Also comparing him to perron is somewhat off since lupul has 3 more years at 5+ million than perron does.

Robidas....40, 42...who gives a sh×t the guy is a healthy scratch on the leafs for god sakes. Hes terribly disgusting and makes $3million per year.

I dont love the returns i posted. They depress me. But not as much as the current roster.

Let me get this right....

When Wilson says Kessel isn't reliable, he's a bitter old man who couldn't win with the Leafs. But when he defends Kessel, he's 100% right about his assessment?

You guys are pretty funny, I have to say.
- Pecafan Fan

I think you made my point. How can he be both. I wasn't saying he's 100% right.

People don't even both to read what they are are responding to....,. its hilarious.

Wasnt clark who said the gardiner quote..must have been some one else.

I guess you will never believe anything negative about fat phil.
- clark_griswold

If you say so....

Dallas plays benn spezza and seguin on a line together.

Lupul is devalued because he is the spokesman for johnson and Johnson band aids. Also comparing him to perron is somewhat off since lupul has 3 more years at 5+ million than perron does.

Robidas....40, 42...who gives a sh×t the guy is a healthy scratch on the leafs for god sakes. Hes terribly disgusting and makes $3million per year.

I dont love the returns i posted. They depress me. But not as much as the current roster.
- clark_griswold

no.

Dallas plays benn spezza and seguin on a line together.

Lupul is devalued because he is the spokesman for johnson and Johnson band aids. Also comparing him to perron is somewhat off since lupul has 3 more years at 5+ million than perron does.

Robidas....40, 42...who gives a sh×t the guy is a healthy scratch on the leafs for god sakes. Hes terribly disgusting and makes $3million per year.

I dont love the returns i posted. They depress me. But not as much as the current roster.
- clark_griswold

Spezza spends most of his time with Hemsky and Cole. Eakin plays with Benn/Seguin.

I mentioned lupuls contract, but as players they're similar.

40 and 42 are very different as pro hockey players. Sure he should be better, but he was good before so I want to see him away from Randy first.

I never said that Kessel didn't have issues, and if you are going to jerk yourself off to what RW said on Tuesday, then shouldn;'t you be listening to (and believing) what he said a day later??

no.
- burn

They did for the first 30 games burnsie.

If we're serious about a rebuild, Kessel has to go: he's the only piece that'll fetch us a large return (1st round pick(s) and/or prospects), despite the contract.

The rest of the pieces like Gardiner, Phaneuf, Lupul, and Bozak are playing below their pay grade for the most part, so it makes their contracts look less attractive, and therefore we'd have to eat salary to get anything worthwhile for them.

They did for the first 30 games burnsie.
- AdamFrench

untrue.. sorry french.. you are wrong on this one

http://leftwinglock.com/l...ombinations/dallas-stars/

I think you made my point. How can he be both. I wasn't saying he's 100% right.

People don't even both to read what they are are responding to....,. its hilarious.
- burn

A player can be unreliable and at the same time, not being able to get the job done by himself.

It actually goes hand in hand if you ask me.

If we're serious about a rebuild, Kessel has to go: he's the only piece that'll fetch us a large return (1st round pick(s) and/or prospects), despite the contract.

The rest of the pieces like Gardiner, Phaneuf, Lupul, and Bozak are playing below their pay grade for the most part, so it makes their contracts look less attractive, and therefore we'd have to eat salary to get anything worthwhile for them.
- gravyface

Don't throw rocks at me, but I think Phaneuf has some value too.

Spezza spends most of his time with Hemsky and Cole. Eakin plays with Benn/Seguin.

I mentioned lupuls contract, but as players they're similar.

40 and 42 are very different as pro hockey players. Sure he should be better, but he was good before so I want to see him away from Randy first.
- lumlums

They go back and forth for the last half of December the big line was together whenever i watched. Adding bozak would keep the super line together. Or give them more depth. Bozie's contract is moveable. I just picked dallas 1st

They did for the first 30 games burnsie.
- AdamFrench

Burn said NO

Burn said NO
- clark_griswold

Burn is right

Don't throw rocks at me, but I think Phaneuf has some value too.
- Pecafan Fan

as a voice actor for a puppet on a children's show maybe

untrue.. sorry french.. you are wrong on this one

http://leftwinglock.com/l...ombinations/dallas-stars/
- Dozzer

If you look at "all season" they are the second most frequent combo. After Roussel Garbutt Eakin.

If you look at "all season" they are the second most frequent combo. After Roussel Garbutt Eakin.
- Pecafan Fan

ahh.. didnt see that option.. thanks for clarifying

EDIT:

most recent 10 games shows they are moving away from that tho