Woah - McDavid, Eichel, Hanafin, Crouse really could be possibilities.
- 1979AD

top 4?

You're kidding about Kessel I hope. Top 10 scorers in the league are gold considering 25 teams are looking for offense.

Robida and Lupul....yeah...but you wouldn't get much for them even if they were making under a mill.

Gardiner you would have no problem moving considering the amount of teams looking for D-men...especially ones that can skate. I expect him to be much better now without RC looking over his shoulder all the time.

Bozak could be moved very easily...but if he's a second line center why would you move him?
- stormey

swag

You're kidding about Kessel I hope. Top 10 scorers in the league are gold considering 25 teams are looking for offense.

Robida and Lupul....yeah...but you wouldn't get much for them even if they were making under a mill.

Gardiner you would have no problem moving considering the amount of teams looking for D-men...especially ones that can skate. I expect him to be much better now without RC looking over his shoulder all the time.

Bozak could be moved very easily...but if he's a second line center why would you move him?
- stormey

Could they get 2 1sts and a 2nd?

Seriously, Clark, this is just a brain-dead stupid comment.

I get that you are anti-Leafs at the moment, but Kessel was the top scorer in the 2014 Olympics and named to the 1st all-star team of the tourney.

He's consistently amongst the top scorers in the NHL.

You completely lose all credibility when you make a statement like this.

Get up from the computer, go take a little walk around, and then come back.

Kessel would be hard to move?

Jeeezus.
- Atomic Wedgie

in a non cap world i look dumb. Seriously, look at the rosters and cap space. it's not that he's not good - he's elite. But name a team with the space and assets who needs PHil. Nsh and Ana are about it since we won't move him to TB and i don't think he goes to NYI ( i believe he has a modified NTC)

The problem is that Kessel and Phaneuf are our go to guys.

That's the problem.

If Kessel and phaneuf were number two guys on the team.....it wouldnt be as bad.

Everyone compares Kessel to kane or vice versa....Kane handles the spotlight much better, but he's also second to Toews.....and has a good supporting cast such as Hossa and Sharp for when he isnt on his game.
- Fakepartofme

I always think of Forsberg - Sakic was the guy who wore the C, took on the leadership duties, was the face of the organization, etc.

Forsberg was just free to play hockey.

And he did that pretty well.

And more importantly, Pogge was signed, Rask wasn't.

Rask wasn't going to sign to be behind Pogge, and if you didn't sign Rask within 2 years, he went back into the draft and the Leafs would receive no compensation.

Don't fault the Leafs for trading Rask - it had to be done.

Fault them for taking Raycroft in return.
- Atomic Wedgie

Didn't Raycroft just win the Calder?

top 4?
- senstroll

no chance we get top 4...i think bottom 5-8. the bottom 4 are AHL teams

Yup, scouting has been horrid, no one over the last ten years from the 2nd round or later, even the Laughs have a couple... That also speaks to a weak development system as well...
- aminnes

right and then you compare that with Chicago. the list of players (current and past) selected outside the first round who have been major contributors is impressive: Keith, Bickell, Crawford, Hjalmersson, Saad, Bolland, Byfuglien, Kruger, Shaw... to say nothing of trades and signings (Hossa, Sharp, Oduya, Leddy, Versteeg) and then their smashes in the first round like Toews, Kane, Ladd, Seabrook... they're just a really well run organization right now top to bottom.

in a non cap world i look dumb. Seriously, look at the rosters and cap space. it's not that he's not good - he's elite. But name a team with the space and assets who needs PHil. Nsh and Ana are about it since we won't move him to TB and i don't think he goes to NYI ( i believe he has a modified NTC)
- clark_griswold

You only need a team with 3 - 5 million in space. We'd certainly take a guy on with 3 - 5 million on his deal. Just a lot shorter term.

Didn't Raycroft just win the Calder?
- Aaron_85

then had an injury riddled season to follow.

no chance we get top 4...i think bottom 5-8. the bottom 4 are AHL teams
- clark_griswold

I was more commenting on Crouse mentioned in the top 4

You only need a team with 3 - 5 million in space. We'd certainly take a guy on with 3 - 5 million on his deal. Just a lot shorter term.
- Aaron_85

ok so go ahead and name a contending team who falls under that category. I don't see many.

I was more commenting on Crouse mentioned in the top 4
- senstroll

ahhh

right and then you compare that with Chicago. the list of players (current and past) selected outside the first round who have been major contributors is impressive: Keith, Bickell, Crawford, Hjalmersson, Saad, Bolland, Byfuglien, Kruger, Shaw... to say nothing of trades and signings (Hossa, Sharp, Oduya, Leddy, Versteeg) and then their smashes in the first round like Toews, Kane, Ladd, Seabrook... they're just a really well run organization right now top to bottom.
- DoubleDown

Absolutely agree. It's time the Leafs start going for some homerun picks though. Take the risk. Go for it but if need be, let the kid develop!

I always think of Forsberg - Sakic was the guy who wore the C, took on the leadership duties, was the face of the organization, etc.

Forsberg was just free to play hockey.

And he did that pretty well.
- Atomic Wedgie

plus he wasn't fat. that made him more likable.

Didn't Raycroft just win the Calder?
- Aaron_85

Nope.

He won the Calder for the 03-04 season.

He pooped the bed in 04-05.

And we picked him up the summer of 05.

There are rumours that Boston was just going to outright release him that summer, until Toronto made the offer for Rask.

Probably not true, but something else to through in Leafs fans' faces.

ok so go ahead and name a contending team who falls under that category. I don't see many.
- clark_griswold

Sharks.

right and then you compare that with Chicago. the list of players (current and past) selected outside the first round who have been major contributors is impressive: Keith, Bickell, Crawford, Hjalmersson, Saad, Bolland, Byfuglien, Kruger, Shaw... to say nothing of trades and signings (Hossa, Sharp, Oduya, Leddy, Versteeg) and then their smashes in the first round like Toews, Kane, Ladd, Seabrook... they're just a really well run organization right now top to bottom.
- DoubleDown

thanks for coming into our thread and letting all us Leaf fans know how much better Chicago is at drafting than Montreal

plus he wasn't fat. that made him more likable.
- DoubleDown

Weird, wolf-like eyes, though.

They always freaked me out.

top 4?
- senstroll

Yes. Why do you ask?

ok so go ahead and name a contending team who falls under that category. I don't see many.
- clark_griswold

you do realize they will be trading players away

I was more commenting on Crouse mentioned in the top 4
- senstroll

My NHL Draft has the Leafs picking Brock Boeser. I didn't have to investigate where this kid came from.

I was more commenting on Crouse mentioned in the top 4
- senstroll

You mean like ISS ranking him #3 and TSN having him #5?

Do it!!!
- Woderwick

I'm just worries Bozak will be put on the top line again.

ok so go ahead and name a contending team who falls under that category. I don't see many.
- clark_griswold

Nashville.