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aminnes
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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The point is that Toews provides leadership, back checking, face-offs, and grit when he's not producing points.
Kessel provides nothing except negativity and scoring chances against. - gravyface
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Aaron_85
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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founder has medical issue - Lee Denault
I hope he gets better! |
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Dozzer
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Aetherial
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Lee Denault
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Location: Time to get Schwifty Joined: 11.16.2007
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That's partly due to Nonis not having any balls to make a trade with a little risk.
I give credit to Burke for recognizing some of his mistakes and moving them. Beauchemin back to Anaheim, Toskala and Blake traded for nothing. We wouldn't have Lupul or Gardiner. - Aaron_85
toskala and blake both were not burke |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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This place is moving quick today!
He's also fairly healthy. We could have Gaborik. Outstanding talent and skill but soft as butter. - Aaron_85
Also could never win a cup .. those types of players are not winners |
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pred_26
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Location: Chattanooga, TN Joined: 12.31.2014
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Peter Horachek is a tool. You guys better hope they find a replacement Asap |
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BorjeFan4Ever
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Location: not the BigSmoke anymore Joined: 10.29.2007
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Fire Nonis
Give up on this year. They aren’t winning any cups and likely not even making the playoffs. This philosophy is necessary so that they...
Fix the cap. Get rid of as many of Bozak, Lupul, Clarkson, Robidas, Reimer as possible. The return is irrelevant. These contracts have to be moved even if you take back bad (but less or shorter) salary in return. Sadly you might not be able to give any of these guys away
Trade Franson at the deadline. Time to stop overpaying following a career year.
Re-sign Kadri.
Trade Gardiner and Komarov if “hockey deals” can be made.
Fix Phaneuf. Remove the C.
Fix Kessel. 1) Get rid of Bozak. 2) get a #1 C.
Center Options?
Richards or Lecavalier … for salary going back (Lupul?)
Thornton or Marleau … for salary and some assets going back, like a young D.
RoR? E. Staal? – Could maybe get these guys at a significant cost but without gutting the team.
Duchene/MacKinnon/RNH -You know it would cost our best pick(s) and our best young assets. Do the Leafs have ANY assets that could get this done? - Aetherial
good sentiment... but I would steer as far away from Thornton, Richards or Lecavalier as possible... as they simply have too much mileage on them... and none of them (in particular Lecavalier) are quick enough to play with Kessel. RoR might be just the tonic however.
if they can somehow move Phaneuf for a decent/fair return - then keeping Franson at a reasonable annual rate might not be a bad choice.... also move Robidas even it costs them a pick/prospect... and promote 1 or 2 of the marlies.
combining Reimer, Gardiner together might be a option in a hockey deal.
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aminnes
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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Aetherial
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Peter Horachek is a tool. You guys better hope they find a replacement Asap - pred_26
Don't know whether he is or not, but I sure don't anticipate a lot of improvement coming by promoting a guy who was already here.
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Woderwick
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Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON Joined: 02.12.2013
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Peter Horachek is a tool. You guys better hope they find a replacement Asap - pred_26
Tool enough to tank? |
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Aaron_85
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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Also could never win a cup .. those types of players are not winners - senstroll
Yeah they never win. Never ever.
How many rings does Kane have? |
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TheThrill
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Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON Joined: 12.10.2013
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Peter Horachek is a tool. You guys better hope they find a replacement Asap - pred_26
he broke up Bozak and Kessel within 5 minutes of being officially named interim coach. That's dandy enough for me |
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Atreides
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Location: Kelowna Joined: 11.05.2009
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I know you are kidding, but that is exactly the kind of derp that is going to be out there in Kessel trade speculation.
There is a lot similar to the Leafs and the Oilers, except the Oilers have a brighter future. - Aetherial
Skinner + 1st for Kessel I would do - GOOD OLE HOMETOWN BOY (I'm from Markham) |
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TheThrill
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Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON Joined: 12.10.2013
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Skinner + 1st for Kessel I would do - GOOD OLE HOMETOWN BOY (I'm from Markham) - Atreides
Carolina would never move a 1st.
I'd do the lesser value Stewart and a 1st from Buffalo. Good ol' local boy! |
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Lee Denault
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Location: Time to get Schwifty Joined: 11.16.2007
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Skinner + 1st for Kessel I would do - GOOD OLE HOMETOWN BOY (I'm from Markham) - Atreides
i would hope the leafs could get more. Skinner has been very underwhelming and injury prone...is the first this year?... |
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Woderwick
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Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON Joined: 02.12.2013
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Don't know whether he is or not, but I sure don't anticipate a lot of improvement coming by promoting a guy who was already here. - Aetherial
There has to be some form of incentive for employees. Let Horachek earn his firing himself. |
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aminnes
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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Also could never win a cup .. those types of players are not winners - senstroll
Awwww, Daniel son, but he is not the core, he was brought in to augment an already solid lineup, if he decides to (frank) the dog in LA, he would be an out cast, in Columbus/NY, guys were coming onto his team, it's the other way around now... |
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Atomic Wedgie
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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I know you are kidding, but that is exactly the kind of derp that is going to be out there in Kessel trade speculation.
There is a lot similar to the Leafs and the Oilers, except the Oilers have a brighter future. - Aetherial
Something that I've been mulling over for a few years:
The last time a Canadian team won a cup was 1993.
Statistically speaking, that's a huge anomaly.
It's fun for other fan bases to crap on the Leafs and their horrendous drought, but the Habs haven't been back to the finals since '93, the Oilers have been back once, the Flames once, the Canucks once, the Jets never and the Sens once.
And there's no way in hell the 0 for Canada streak is ending this year.
There's something fundamentally wrong with Canadian teams. And I can't put my finger on what it is, but my closest guess is that it has to do with the negativity that permeates the teams when things are going badly.
The press and the fans.
I'm open to further theories. |
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the_eye
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Joined: 07.22.2012
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Thanks for the info Eye. And here, in spite of what I wrote, I thought they could get real assets for all their bad contracts.
Just saying, you have to try to do these things to address the problems, which are Management, The Cap, and the Kessel/Phaneuf core who you can't trade for what they are worth right now. - Aetherial
well i have Kessel as one of the 6 and the one that would get the greatest return also
doubt there's a team in the league that wouldn't take him |
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Garnie
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thanks garn - DoubleDown
Is that an emoticon??? |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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he broke up Bozak and Kessel within 5 minutes of being officially named interim coach. That's dandy enough for me - TheThrill
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Aaron_85
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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good sentiment... but I would steer as far away from Thornton, Richards or Lecavalier as possible... as they simply have too much mileage on them... and none of them (in particular Lecavalier) are quick enough to play with Kessel. RoR might be just the tonic however.
if they can somehow move Phaneuf for a decent/fair return - then keeping Franson at a reasonable annual rate might not be a bad choice.... also move Robidas even it costs them a pick/prospect... and promote 1 or 2 of the marlies.
combining Reimer, Gardiner together might be a option in a hockey deal. - BorjeFan4Ever
I don't get the Franson signing and yet moving Phaneuf. Franson's career year has been playing with Phaneuf. Just like the other guys who played with Phaneuf. They looked better.
Franson has yet to make one of his partners ever look better.
This would be akin to when Carle became a "great" dman after playing with Pronger. (Note I'm not saying Phaneuf is as good as Pronger but hopefully anyone reading gets my point) |
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aminnes
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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good sentiment... but I would steer as far away from Thornton, Richards or Lecavalier as possible... as they simply have too much mileage on them... and none of them (in particular Lecavalier) are quick enough to play with Kessel. RoR might be just the tonic however.
if they can somehow move Phaneuf for a decent/fair return - then keeping Franson at a reasonable annual rate might not be a bad choice.... also move Robidas even it costs them a pick/prospect... and promote 1 or 2 of the marlies.
combining Reimer, Gardiner together might be a option in a hockey deal. - BorjeFan4Ever
Yup, to get out from under Dions contract would be ideal... |
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