I was praying for RC to be fired...its now happened...40 games to late imo ... but glad its happened... he may not be the issue.. we will see...but i highly doubt he was helping this team much more than any other coach could
- senstroll

Its pretty set in stone to me the coach isnt the problem. We'll see

While I'm encouraged Kadri is being tried with Kessel....I wonder why Santorelli isn't the other winger.
- mykokes

Spread the offense around; Winnik's not going to produce.

I'm afraid you are changing your argument.

If you want to blow up the Leafs and tank, I'm on board. Let's do it. Connor McDavid, here we come.

But your argument is to trade Kessel because he makes too much, and his cap hit is indirectly hurting the team.

Which is false.
- Atomic Wedgie

Fire Nonis

Give up on this year. They aren’t winning any cups and likely not even making the playoffs. This philosophy is necessary so that they...

Fix the cap. Get rid of as many of Bozak, Lupul, Clarkson, Robidas, Reimer as possible. The return is irrelevant. These contracts have to be moved even if you take back bad (but less or shorter) salary in return. Sadly you might not be able to give any of these guys away

Trade Franson at the deadline. Time to stop overpaying following a career year.

Re-sign Kadri.

Trade Gardiner and Komarov if “hockey deals” can be made.

Fix Phaneuf. Remove the C.

Fix Kessel. 1) Get rid of Bozak. 2) get a #1 C.

Center Options?
Richards or Lecavalier … for salary going back (Lupul?)

Thornton or Marleau … for salary and some assets going back, like a young D.

RoR? E. Staal? – Could maybe get these guys at a significant cost but without gutting the team.

Duchene/MacKinnon/RNH -You know it would cost our best pick(s) and our best young assets. Do the Leafs have ANY assets that could get this done?

Leafs season ticket holders got to go to the front of the line.

After that, the ticket prices themselves (remember, you had to buy packages - which included all the round-robin games, for which you didn't get to see Canada) were so redonkulously high, Joe Six-Pack wasn't buying them.

It was corporate.
- Atomic Wedgie

Just reading up on that now - but it seems like the number of seats offered up to season ticket holders was quite limited.

Players with significant minutes that have blocked fewer shots than Kessel:

Zack Kassian
Shawn Thornton
Rob Klinkhammer
Brad Malone
Jonathon Toews (2)
Linden Vey
Marian Gaborik
Thomas Vanek
Kyle Chipchurra
Tyler Toffoli
- BINGO!

Toews is very surprising.

I dont remember Roberts ever having bad press. But i was younger then
- Lee Denault

In fact, just the opposite.

The press protected him when he left Toronto - they never printed the real story he didn't re-sign with Toronto.

Said this yesterday on the Hab thread.

If Kess was playing with Toews, Hosssa, Sharp and Keith...I wonder if he would be a coach killer.
- stormey

such a dumb term

Yzerman had 9 coaches in 22 seasons
5 by the time he was Kessels age

they almost trade him too

our problem is bad defense and the forwards not helping out the D enough.

of course part of that is a bad coach with a bad system that wasnt tweaked what so ever.

the other issue is the constant in/out of players ...establish a core you want to stick with and stick with it...like Chicago.

Keith
Toews
Kane
Sharp

the rest is basically filler other than your odd guy like Saad, Seabrook who are above mid range...basically our Lupul/Polak

which is sad that Polak is our second best D...
- Lucas Neilson

Seabrook is not your average D

The guy is top 10 in the world at his position....no?

I was praying for RC to be fired...its now happened...40 games to late imo ... but glad its happened... he may not be the issue.. we will see...but i highly doubt he was helping this team much more than any other coach could
- senstroll

yes

Obviously garbage because he doesn't block enough shots.
- BINGO!

The point is that Toews provides leadership, back checking, face-offs, and grit when he's not producing points.

Kessel provides nothing except negativity and scoring chances against.

Daren Millard retweeted
Michael Russo ‏@Russostrib 9m9 minutes ago
#mnwild continuing practice without Yeo. Assistant GM Brent Flahr and director of hockey admin Shep Harder left stands when Yeo left ice
0 replies 25 retweets 3 favorites
Reply Retweet25 Favorite3
More
Daren Millard retweeted
Michael Russo ‏@Russostrib 13m13 minutes ago
Yeo just stormed off the ice after slamming his stick against the glass #mnwild.
- burn

#HireCarlyle

Wow, I always heard he was like one of the guys...the pressure must have got to him
- Garnie

He was, and that was okay as an assistant, but when it came time to think on his feet and have to work on relationships with players that are starting to go sideways, he faltered big time.

Fire Nonis

Give up on this year. They aren’t winning any cups and likely not even making the playoffs. This philosophy is necessary so that they...

Fix the cap. Get rid of as many of Bozak, Lupul, Clarkson, Robidas, Reimer as possible. The return is irrelevant. These contracts have to be moved even if you take back bad (but less or shorter) salary in return. sal;dyt you might not be able to give any of these guys away 

Trade Franson at the deadline. Time to stop overpaying following a career year.

Re-sign Kadri.

Trade Gardiner and Komarov if “hockey deals” can be made.

Fix Phaneuf. Remove the C.

Fix Kessel. 1) Get rid of Bozak. 2) get a #1 C.

Center Options?
Richards or Lecavalier … for salary going back (Lupul?)

Thornton or Marleau … for salary and some assets going back, like a young D.

RoR? E. Staal? – Could maybe get these guys at a significant cost without but without gutting the team.

Duchene/MacKinnon/RNH -You know it would cost our best pick(s) and our best young assets. Do the Leafs have ANY assets that could get this done?
- Aetherial

even if they give up on the year now, bottom 3 they are not picking


oh and its a business and playoff revenue is huge

Just reading up on that now - but it seems like the number of seats offered up to season ticket holders was quite limited.
- Canuckleafer

If I was offered two seats, every season seat holder in the building was offered two seats.

And I was offered two seats.

I'll take hack "journalists" for $500 Alex.

Oh its the daily double?

Who are Feshuk and Simmons?
- Cfser

I love Kessel's reponse to his question "Did you hear what Ron Wilson said about you?"

If you didn't hear it he said "What do you expect from me?" Feshuck only got defensive. Didn't even have a real response. Like he was shocked he could be asked a question.

such a dumb term

Yzerman had 9 coaches in 22 seasons
5 by the time he was Kessels age

they almost trade him too
- senstroll

Interesting tidbit...

The point is that Toews provides leadership, back checking, face-offs, and grit when he's not producing points.

Kessel provides nothing except negativity and scoring chances against.
- gravyface

Nothing?

Youre not the only person to know nhlers on here.

(frank) i play summer hockey with a few.but ill never ask questions about tgat poop to them... Ye come off as a douchebag
- Lee Denault

i met Gordie Dwyer back in 2002

In fact, just the opposite.

The press protected him when he left Toronto - they never printed the real story he didn't re-sign with Toronto.
- Atomic Wedgie

Play hard with youre blood here and you will be treated like a God

Fire Nonis

Give up on this year. They aren’t winning any cups and likely not even making the playoffs. This philosophy is necessary so that they...

Fix the cap. Get rid of as many of Bozak, Lupul, Clarkson, Robidas, Reimer as possible. The return is irrelevant. These contracts have to be moved even if you take back bad (but less or shorter) salary in return. Sadly you might not be able to give any of these guys away

Trade Franson at the deadline. Time to stop overpaying following a career year.

Re-sign Kadri.

Trade Gardiner and Komarov if “hockey deals” can be made.

Fix Phaneuf. Remove the C.

Fix Kessel. 1) Get rid of Bozak. 2) get a #1 C.

Center Options?
Richards or Lecavalier … for salary going back (Lupul?)

Thornton or Marleau … for salary and some assets going back, like a young D.

RoR? E. Staal? – Could maybe get these guys at a significant cost but without gutting the team.

Duchene/MacKinnon/RNH -You know it would cost our best pick(s) and our best young assets. Do the Leafs have ANY assets that could get this done?
- Aetherial

even if they give up on the year now, bottom 3 they are not picking


oh and its a business and playoff revenue is huge
- the_eye

I am not suggesting they tank for a pick. I am suggesting they don't hold on to assets that are costly so that they can make yet another futile attempt at squeezing into the playoffs, which will fail, again.

If I was offered two seats, every season seat holder in the building was offered two seats.

And I was offered two seats.
- Atomic Wedgie

don't mind him, that was the Canuck side of him thinking

i have the NHL app and i got a instant message on my phone
- the_eye

tsn has it posted now.

thats becuase he didnt (frank) himself like Nonis has.
- Lucas Neilson

Yup, its the term thats the real killer, even DC, if thats a 3 year we would all be happy knowing his ass would be gone after this year...

I am not suggesting they tank for a pick. I am suggesting they don't hold on to assets that are costly so that they can make yet another futile attempt at squeezing into the playoffs, which will fail, again.
- Aetherial

i think the Leafs only have 6 players that another team would want, so good luck with that