Thats just it, if the wings offer him 4, they already offered him 3.5 i think, and the leafs offer 6, and it's a 5 year deal, i think he would have a hard time turning down 10 or 12 million dollars...
- aminnes

This could happen. Until someone digs up some dirt on how Shanny and Babcock don't get along. Where's Robin?

exactly.. and look how opportunistic snow was... able to land grabo and kuli.. guys.. who.. were growing as professionals together ... guys the leafs should of kept moving forward with .. but oh no.. its the damn leafs.. and they have to "speed things up" by looking for outside help.. all the f'n well damn time
- Dozzer

If the Leafs were currently paying Grabo and Kule a combined 10mill/yr we'd be burning Nonis at the stake right now.

These are the type of players/contracts you bring in when your young core is ready for the bigtime.

They were certainly a nice addition to the core of youth they already had, playing together for 4 years.
- bixll

yep, i agree 100%

leafs should have kept the grabo/kule/mac line and played them 15 mins a game.

they rarely got scored on but would have the puck a lot and would go through hot/cold stretches putting up points.

problem was then...we had orr/mclaren/mcllement

and 0 defense.

Deal... Done and done, plus 2 Kawasaki jet skis.
- bixll

1 for each of us?

Could I exchange minr for a real nice guitar?

i liked his game too, a lil dirty but skilled.

roberts
tucker

those are the guys i liked on the leafs.

thats why i like leo
- Lucas Neilson

Leo ever drop his mittens, in the NHL ??? I don't think he is their league. Tucker today would be a light weight.. But he would fight the middle weights and get smoked.

nowhere, I just suspect it myself in my wisdom mea ha ha ha... ... I don't think he would want to be elsewhere, but he would be insane to trust Leaf management and would only come to TO if he had full control...
- aminnes

yeah that's a fair point. he's not coming to work for Dave Nonis that's for sure.

yeah but they also added what...6 new players this season?

Halak
Grabovski
Kulemin
Boychuk
Leddy
Johnson

Grabner
Clutterbuck the season before
- Lucas Neilson

this is EXACTLY what i am talking about

build your core 3 or 4 guys

then add more talent to them

dont bring the core in from elsewhere.. build that on your own

1 for each of us?

Could I exchange minr for a real nice guitar?
- Garnie

It was a joke on Big Bang.. I will take 2 guitars instead..

What type would you want if you could have anyone ?

If the Leafs were currently paying Grabo and Kule a combined 10mill/yr we'd be burning Nonis at the stake right now.

These are the type of players/contracts you bring in when your young core is ready for the bigtime.
- 1979AD

but we also wouldnt have clarkson or have wasted a season with bolland

i agree grabo was overpaid

but by how much?

i mean poop, isles just gave him 5 mil for 4 years...

bottom line; leafs will never win the cup untril they have a bonified #1C

they will have to draft that person or pay an enourmous amount to get one who is young.

ROR is likely the only one i could see being traded at this point unless you can figure a way to fleece RNH out of EDM cause of their situation.

If the Leafs were currently paying Grabo and Kule a combined 10mill/yr we'd be burning Nonis at the stake right now.

These are the type of players/contracts you bring in when your young core is ready for the bigtime.
- 1979AD

yes!

the advantage kuli and grabo have is they were already groomed together

They were certainly a nice addition to the core of youth they already had, playing together for 4 years.
- bixll

Yup - and it all started with Tavares. Now how could the Leafs hope to get a stud prospect like that to develop and build around? Hmmmmmm

I hope so, but take more with you, just in case.
- bixll

Need my baggy big pocket pants then.

they don't play saturday, friday is the day they play.
- zazzle

K - phew, I would have missed the game

Leo ever drop his mittens, in the NHL ??? I don't think he is their league. Tucker today would be a light weight.. But he would fight the middle weights and get smoked.
- bixll

he was too scrappy to get smoked

he would survive those fights, suprising everyone!

he laid the biggest hit ever on Kapinen.

ever LOL

Trade JVR to Anaheim for William Karlsson, Devante Smith-Pelle and a pick.

Yup - and it all started with Tavares. Now how could the Leafs hope to get a stud prospect like that to develop and build around? Hmmmmmm
- 1979AD

its plain as day

play what kids you have with vets just past their prime on cheap short contracts.. forget about trying to win for 3 or 4 years and LO.. all of a sudden you are building your contender

Leo ever drop his mittens, in the NHL ??? I don't think he is their league. Tucker today would be a light weight.. But he would fight the middle weights and get smoked.
- bixll

leo doesnt really fight

he's like an avery, but less of a D bag

It was a joke on Big Bang.. I will take 2 guitars instead..

What type would you want if you could have anyone ?
- bixll

The best


* whatever that is *

yeah that's a fair point. he's not coming to work for Dave Nonis that's for sure.
- DoubleDown

Who actually works for Dave Nonis now?

exactly.. and look how opportunistic snow was... able to land grabo and kuli.. guys.. who.. were growing as professionals together ... guys the leafs should of kept moving forward with .. but oh no.. its the damn leafs.. and they have to "speed things up" by looking for outside help.. all the f'n well damn time
- Dozzer

I was surprised when they didn't want to pay McArthur 2.5 per after they had a really good year, totally weird...

leo doesnt really fight

he's like an avery, but less of a D bag
- Lucas Neilson

Komarov is a slightly less talented version of what Tuomo Ruutu used to be.

but we also wouldnt have clarkson or have wasted a season with bolland

i agree grabo was overpaid

but by how much?

i mean poop, isles just gave him 5 mil for 4 years...

bottom line; leafs will never win the cup untril they have a bonified #1C

they will have to draft that person or pay an enourmous amount to get one who is young.

ROR is likely the only one i could see being traded at this point unless you can figure a way to fleece RNH out of EDM cause of their situation.
- Lucas Neilson

Agreed. I contest the Leafs will never have a superstar C to build around unless a bolt of lightning hits like Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Getzlaf type coup or they draft top 5.

@mirtle: Tyler Bozak's last 16 games are ugly stuff. Four even strength points (same as Holzer) and 36.8% possession. Ice cold after very hot start.


Holy (frank).

I was surprised when they didn't want to pay McArthur 2.5 per after they had a really good year, totally weird...
- aminnes

McArthur wasn't polite enough.

I was surprised when they didn't want to pay McArthur 2.5 per after they had a really good year, totally weird...
- aminnes

He was meh, hot and cold and easily removed from the puck. The only guy I would have kept is Kulemin IMO - he usually got the puck out of our end unlike a couple other wingers we have