There was more physical play inthe first 7 min than I've seen all year from the flyers. Great game, bs home cooking, but fun to watch...

No need to move him off the roster, when you can just scratch him for tonight and play Del Zotto. Just as there is no hurry to re-sign Schultz right now.
- MJL

We disagree on the need; scratching Luke Schenn does nothing

We disagree on the need; scratching Luke Schenn does nothing
- AllInForFlyers

How does it do nothing? Making a player change in the lineup certainly does something. Adding a mobile offensive defenseman over a slower skating defensive defenseman certainly changes the dynamic of the lineup. Give me one legitimate reason why the Flyers, right now, should remove Luke Schenn off the roster? What is there to gain by doing so now?

he looked so mad at the end of the game. i know that look.
- hammarby31

Was somewhat shocked he fell to round 2

How does it do nothing? Making a player change in the lineup certainly does something. Adding a mobile offensive defenseman over a slower skating defensive defenseman certainly changes the dynamic of the lineup. Give me one legitimate reason why the Flyers, right now, should remove Luke Schenn off the roster? What is there to gain by doing so now?
- MJL

Are you serious? It is entirely possible that Schenn is worse than MDZ and Coliacovo -- which is reason enough!

Removing a player who can't play gives you the opportunity to stabilize your lineup and win hockey games -- which is the entire point. Clearly, the coach feels that neither Schenn tonight and earlier this season AND last season, or Del Zotto previously, are sufficient answers for the winning of hockey games.

These are replacement level players -- they can go tomorrow, and the Flyers will not be harmed one bit.

Again: The coach is telling you what he thinks. I said the same about Akeeson -- if the coach doesn't want to use you and you are replacement level, who the hell cares about if they are on waivers or in the minors?

Are you serious? It is entirely possible that Schenn is worse than MDZ and Coliacovo -- which is reason enough!

Removing a player who can't play gives you the opportunity to stabilize your lineup and win hockey games -- which is the entire point. Clearly, the coach feels that neither Schenn tonight and earlier this season AND last season, or Del Zotto previously, are sufficient answers for the winning of hockey games.

These are replacement level players -- they can go tomorrow, and the Flyers will not be harmed one bit.

Again: The coach is telling you what he thinks. I said the same about Akeeson -- if the coach doesn't want to use you and you are replacement level, who the hell cares about if they are on waivers or in the minors?
- AllInForFlyers

Removing Schenn from the roster now does not stabilize the roster more then scratching him and replacing him with Del Zotto in the lineup now does. All it would do is reduce the defensive depth.
If Del Zotto and Colaiacovo are better then they can play over Schenn in the lineup. And Schenn can take their place in the press box on game day.
Akeson is in a completely different situation then Schenn is. Flyers weren't risking losing a tradeable asset for nothing, weren't going to have to carry dead cap space to do so. Akeson was waived and demoted so he could get playing time and possibly develop better. Demoting Schenn isn't going to do that for him. He'd be a top defenseman in the AHL among boys. What good would that do him?
The coach told you what he thinks about Del Zotto when he was scratched how many games in a row! No call to cut bait with Del Zotto.

Going around in circles here. Teams trade, waive and demote players for various reasons. Not because a player is viewed a replacement level player. The Flyers aren't moving on from Luke Schenn now. They may in the future. He is just sitting out a game. Nothing more.

6-years, $33M for Foligno. Jeez.

6-years, $33M for Foligno. Jeez.
- Tomahawk

Salaries continuing to escalate. 27 years old, yet to have a 20 goal season, and a career high of 47 points. Certainly going to eclipse that if he stays healthy. It's either pay it, trade him, or let him walk.

6-years, $33M for Foligno. Jeez.
- Tomahawk

Yikes.

6-years, $33M for Foligno. Jeez.
- Tomahawk

The smell of regret will soon resonate from the Columbus front office

Was somewhat shocked he fell to round 2
- ob18

somewhat. not that common for goalies to be taken in the first round anymore.

somewhat. not that common for goalies to be taken in the first round anymore.
- hammarby31

Figured a team in the later part of round 1 would make the move.

6-years, $33M for Foligno. Jeez.
- Tomahawk

Lol lol lol lol

Wow -- that is an amazing contract. Columbus better be right, otherwise he and Hartnell are going to be amazing in two years

Lol lol lol lol

Wow -- that is an amazing contract. Columbus better be right, otherwise he and Hartnell are going to be amazing in two years
- AllInForFlyers

It's a significant investment, for sure. Don't have much of a choice if they feel that Foligno is going to continue to improve. I don't see 5.5M as that big of a number that some fans do. The Flyers signed Voracek to 4.25M deal 3 seasons ago as an RFA. Similar numbers although Foligno is developing later. Is it that big of jump to 5.5M for a UFA, 3 years later? Not really in my book. The term is a little dicier.

The smell of regret will soon resonate from the Columbus front office
- PhillySportsGuy

I thought that was just the smell of all the Bengay they've been slathering on Nathan Horton's back.

Removing Schenn from the roster now does not stabilize the roster more then scratching him and replacing him with Del Zotto in the lineup now does. All it would do is reduce the defensive depth.
If Del Zotto and Colaiacovo are better then they can play over Schenn in the lineup. And Schenn can take their place in the press box on game day.
Akeson is in a completely different situation then Schenn is. Flyers weren't risking losing a tradeable asset for nothing, weren't going to have to carry dead cap space to do so. Akeson was waived and demoted so he could get playing time and possibly develop better. Demoting Schenn isn't going to do that for him. He'd be a top defenseman in the AHL among boys. What good would that do him?
The coach told you what he thinks about Del Zotto when he was scratched how many games in a row! No call to cut bait with Del Zotto.

Going around in circles here. Teams trade, waive and demote players for various reasons. Not because a player is viewed a replacement level player. The Flyers aren't moving on from Luke Schenn now. They may in the future. He is just sitting out a game. Nothing more.
- MJL

This is ridiculous -- just because you don't agree doesn't mean I am "going around in circles." I clearly stated why removing a slow-footed No. 6 defenseman who makes $3.6 million and has been a healthy scratch is something I would do.

Calling a slow-footed No. 6 defenseman "depth" -- but then hiding behind the qualifier that the Flyers may move on from him in the future, because he is a slow-footed No. 6 defenseman who makes $3.6 million -- is what is going around in circles

I thought that was just the smell of all the Bengay they've been slathering on Nathan Horton's back.
- Tomahawk

If Horton retires, does his cap come off the books or do they need to do the LTIR charade?

happy new year ... did deboer get hired here yet?

This is ridiculous -- just because you don't agree doesn't mean I am "going around in circles." I clearly stated why removing a slow-footed No. 6 defenseman who makes $3.6 million and has been a healthy scratch is something I would do.

Calling a slow-footed No. 6 defenseman "depth" -- but then hiding behind the qualifier that the Flyers may move on from him in the future, because he is a slow-footed No. 6 defenseman who makes $3.6 million -- is what is going around in circles
- AllInForFlyers

I did not state nor mean to imply that you personally were going around in circles. Only that our debate was. I am also involved in that. Nothing more I can add that I haven't already said.

If Horton retires, does his cap come off the books or do they need to do the LTIR charade?
- PhillySportsGuy

Comes off if he retires, but he's not walking away from 23M.

If Horton retires, does his cap come off the books or do they need to do the LTIR charade?
- PhillySportsGuy

Sadly, they would be completely cleansed of him.

Removing Schenn from the roster now does not stabilize the roster more then scratching him and replacing him with Del Zotto in the lineup now does. All it would do is reduce the defensive depth.
If Del Zotto and Colaiacovo are better then they can play over Schenn in the lineup. And Schenn can take their place in the press box on game day.
Akeson is in a completely different situation then Schenn is. Flyers weren't risking losing a tradeable asset for nothing, weren't going to have to carry dead cap space to do so. Akeson was waived and demoted so he could get playing time and possibly develop better. Demoting Schenn isn't going to do that for him. He'd be a top defenseman in the AHL among boys. What good would that do him?
The coach told you what he thinks about Del Zotto when he was scratched how many games in a row! No call to cut bait with Del Zotto.

Going around in circles here. Teams trade, waive and demote players for various reasons. Not because a player is viewed a replacement level player. The Flyers aren't moving on from Luke Schenn now. They may in the future. He is just sitting out a game. Nothing more.
- MJL

so theres no need for all this patience! good when ghost gets healthy bring him back up.

happy new year ... did deboer get hired here yet?
- JoeRussomanno

Hire Stevens.

How does it do nothing? Making a player change in the lineup certainly does something. Adding a mobile offensive defenseman over a slower skating defensive defenseman certainly changes the dynamic of the lineup. Give me one legitimate reason why the Flyers, right now, should remove Luke Schenn off the roster? What is there to gain by doing so now?
- MJL

More offensive punch on the D side, D becomes more mobile and MDZ can pove the puck better. We do lose out on Schenns ability to block shots, take the body and use his size to win battles. With the size Schenn is, he should be clearing the crease.

so theres no need for all this patience! good when ghost gets healthy bring him back up.
- JoeRussomanno

Think it's a good idea to throw a young defenseman coming off of an ACL right into the NHL?