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Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Dec 15 @ 6:36 PM ET
Or you may find it funny to laugh at everyone's proposals hoping that the Oil will magically turn it around at some point. How inept is your front office that they screw up having that many 1st overall picks? Embarrassing.
- GaryLazerEyes

Yes I agree, the management must be embarrassed.... your point?
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Dec 15 @ 6:37 PM ET
bad culture is something you are labeled when you lose. Case and point Leafs lose 3 games in a row and the culture/core is in question.

Yet they win 9 and a row and they have amazing chemistry.

The word chemistry also pisses me off, when is the last team you've seen a bad team be labeled a team with 'good chemistry'

chemistry comes with W's, that's it.

- Lee Denault


Chemistry is between the players they know where each other are on the ice... That's chemistry in a nutshell...

Hall and Eberle have chemistry, why? Because they have played together for like the past 5 years..
Lee Denault
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Time to get Schwifty
Joined: 11.16.2007

Dec 15 @ 6:37 PM ET
Eberle+ Brad Hunt for Phaneuf
- TheTaoOfSemenko

There
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Dec 15 @ 6:37 PM ET
Is that what the sign says on your bedroom door
- Lee Denault

His mom wont let him put up signs.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Dec 15 @ 6:38 PM ET
Oh Caper's just doing some minor trolling. He's harmless as a kitten. A soft, cuddly kitten. With whiskers and poop.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

of course Marchand and Krug can't get Hall.
Oilers are going to need a kings ransom if they do trade him(which I don't think they should) and someone out there will be happy to oblige them I'm sure.

Might have to wait until the offseason though.
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Dec 15 @ 6:38 PM ET
Alright so finish this for me

Bailey and Boulton for Hall + ?
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Dec 15 @ 6:38 PM ET
Alright so finish this for me

Bailey and Boulton and JT for Hall + Lander?

- Danformo

TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 15 @ 6:38 PM ET
Or you may find it funny to laugh at everyone's proposals hoping that the Oil will magically turn it around at some point. How inept is your front office that they screw up having that many 1st overall picks? Embarrassing.
- GaryLazerEyes

Why are you in here ragging on us about it? We all know their ineptitude. It's well travelled territory. There is nothing remotely new or special in your insight. None of us here had any say in how they've built it. I don't get what guys like you are after with posts like that.
kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Dec 15 @ 6:39 PM ET
Perron + Brad Hunt for Phaneuf
- TheTaoOfSemenko

There

- Lee Denault


There
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Dec 15 @ 6:39 PM ET
Alright so finish this for me

Bailey and Boulton for Hall + ?

- Danformo


Bailey and Boulton and Tavares for Hall+Marincin
Lee Denault
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Time to get Schwifty
Joined: 11.16.2007

Dec 15 @ 6:39 PM ET
His mom wont let him put up signs.
- Oilfan19

Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Dec 15 @ 6:39 PM ET
Alright so finish this for me

Bailey and Boulton for Hall + ?

- Danformo


...
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 15 @ 6:40 PM ET
of course Marchand and Krug can't get Hall.
Oilers are going to need a kings ransom if they do trade him(which I don't think they should) and someone out there will be happy to oblige them I'm sure.

Might have to wait until the offseason though.

- Cape Breton Bruins

Anything other than a genuine top pairing defender is not enough. If they happen to get that 1st overall, Id honestly rather see them try and parley it into say, OEL, rather than bank on Macdavid.
kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Dec 15 @ 6:41 PM ET
Alright so finish this for me

Bailey and Boulton for Hall + your xbox

- Danformo

Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Dec 15 @ 6:43 PM ET
Anything else than a genuine top pairing defender is not enough. If they happen to get that 1st overall, Id honestly rather see them try and parley it into say, OEL, rather than bank on Macdavid.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

I wonder if Mcdavid would be the thing that would pry Weber out of Nashville
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Dec 15 @ 6:43 PM ET
The thing is that we never really know because we aren't on the team, and we actually have no clue about the true "culture". Also, it can't be measured. But that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Look at the Red Wings, how do you think they always have good teams? Their culture breeds success, you can't deny that. And this doesn't just apply to the players, it applies to the coaches, the gm, the scouts, the training staff, everyone.
- The-O-G

WTF? Did you seriously just completely contradict yourself like that? " We don't know cause we don't play on the team and can't measure it". You don't play for the wings, can't measure it but it has to exist because they have won for a really, really long time.
kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Dec 15 @ 6:43 PM ET
Anything else than a genuine top pairing defender is not enough. If they happen to get that 1st overall, Id honestly rather see them try and parley it into say, OEL, rather than bank on Macdavid.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


I agree but no GM is going to be the guy that traded McDavid
oranje_blue91
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PSM 06.23.15, AB
Joined: 10.16.2014

Dec 15 @ 6:44 PM ET
I can type with my toes.
- Oilers4Life14

Easy fix, we amputate at the neck
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 15 @ 6:44 PM ET
I wonder if Mcdavid would be the thing that would pry Weber out of Nashville
- Oilfan19

Honestly rather have OEL. It's more likely to happen I think as well.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 15 @ 6:45 PM ET
I agree but no GM is going to be the guy that traded McDavid
- kingbrehm

One GM was the guy who traded Lindros. His hand may have been forced but he still got a retarded amount of value in return.
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Dec 15 @ 6:46 PM ET
[quote=kingbrehm]

I would take one for the team on that one...
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Dec 15 @ 6:46 PM ET
Anything else than a genuine top pairing defender is not enough. If they happen to get that 1st overall, Id honestly rather see them try and parley it into say, OEL, rather than bank on Macdavid.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Indeed. I know this is hard to hear but Oilers fans just need to be patient now. The playoffs aren't happening. If MacT can get an honest effort out of this group its a start and they can go from there. At least with him in their locker room every game he can see first hand what guys are like and it should help his decision making decisions in the near future.

I still wouldn't trade Hall if I were them. I'd build around him with different players. A big (frank) you Center to open up some space for him and an actual top pairing Dman. Oh and a Goalie. Its not going to happen over night but they have the pieces to make this happen if they are wise about it.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Dec 15 @ 6:48 PM ET
Honestly rather have OEL. It's more likely to happen I think as well.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Id rather have Weber. You know, experience being a weak point
kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Dec 15 @ 6:49 PM ET
One GM was the guy who traded Lindros. His hand may have been forced but he still got a retarded amount of value in return.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


The Lindros return was way more than just OEL. If McDavid got us OEL and a combination of Gormley / Samuelsson / Domi and obviously Dubnyk, then they may go for it.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 15 @ 6:50 PM ET
Indeed. I know this is hard to hear but Oilers fans just need to be patient now. The playoffs aren't happening. If MacT can get an honest effort out of this group its a start and they can go from there. At least with him in their locker room every game he can see first hand what guys are like and it should help his decision making decisions in the near future.

I still wouldn't trade Hall if I were them. I'd build around him with different players. A big (frank) you Center to open up some space for him and an actual top pairing Dman. Oh and a Goalie. Its not going to happen over night but they have the pieces to make this happen if they are wise about it.

- Cape Breton Bruins

More difficult than usual with every GM in the league lowballing every move they attempt.
I don't know if patience solves a thing. This team with this core has never really looked like a winner. They do fine with teams that decide to play firewagon hockey but any game played tight, they look lost and confused. I honestly don't think this team has been constructed right.
At this point, Id rather see it sanitized from the very top down, at least before any big personnel decisions are made. This group has simply proven themselves incapable of building a team.
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