I repeat it very often for the people who accuse me of drinking the kool-aid because I don't see a quick fix for this team like they do.
- TokenBlack

No one sees a quick fix. What this team needs is a complete reconstruction, from the top down. Even if they add the pieces you suggest, this is not a contending roster.

No, but the Oilers shouldn't be rewarded with yet another #1 pick. Bettman should ensure that.
- grand-magus

So the system that is in place to try and help bad teams get better should be abandoned when we are clearly the worst team in the league and desperately need help?

So what if it does?
- sbroads24

Because it totally skews has s options into bias territory.

I already know all the nonsense he's gonna spew before I read it. Doesn't make it any less pure conjecture

Why not isn't an answer

Enough said? For who, you?

Chances for what exactly?
- Ihateallofu

Chances to pull themselves out of being a cr@p as$ team.

How many top picks do you need exactly?

No, but the Oilers shouldn't be rewarded with yet another #1 pick. Bettman should ensure that.
- grand-magus

Im starting to not disagree with this. I mean really, has any pro sport ever witnessed a run of awful like Edmonton?

So the system that is in place to try and help bad teams get better should be abandoned when we are clearly the worst team in the league and desperately need help?
- Ihatebrianburke

What more is there to say than this really

So the system that is in place to try and help bad teams get better should be abandoned when we are clearly the worst team in the league and desperately need help?
- Ihatebrianburke

How many years do you plan on being the worst, or among the worst? I've never seen a team with so many top picks be this horrible.

Chances to pull themselves out of being a cr@p as$ team.

How many top picks do you need exactly?
- grand-magus

I guess the simple answer is; until they stop being a crap team.

im not sure how many

So the system that is in place to try and help bad teams get better should be abandoned when we are clearly the worst team in the league and desperately need help?
- Ihatebrianburke

Yes you need help. But not in the form of a #1 pick. It's been done 3 times and hasn't worked in the slightest.

You are actually worse than when you had no 1st overall picks on the roster. How exactly does that happen?

How many years do you plan on being the worst, or among the worst? I've never seen a team with so many top picks be this horrible.
- grand-magus

we don't plan anything. we're just fans.

Pittsburgh had 5 lottery picks in a row.

the nords had a few firsts ina row and a bunch of high picks.
etc etc

its to try and make the bad teams better.

if youre trying to say that this stretch for the oilers is as bad as uve seen, I wont disagree its right up there. but outside of that, your point doesn't really make a lot of sense

Yes you need help. But not in the form of a #1 pick. It's been done 3 times and hasn't worked in the slightest.

You are actually worse than when you had no 1st overall picks on the roster. How exactly does that happen?
- sbroads24

Incompetent management, bad scouting, worthless development, clueless coaching, fanboy ownership.

Yes you need help. But not in the form of a #1 pick. It's been done 3 times and hasn't worked in the slightest.

You are actually worse than when you had no 1st overall picks on the roster. How exactly does that happen?
- sbroads24

why not in the form of 1 picks?

if you have another solution, lets hear it.

u gonna force the shea webers into signing in edm?
make edm a more desirable destination?
you gonna force gms to stop takin advantage of the situation and offering us pennies on the dollar in trade proposals?
fast forward the clock a few years to see if nurse is a number 1 dman or brossoit turns into a 1 goalie?

im all for that. but until theres some feasibility in your plan to make the oilers better....high picks it is

we don't plan anything. we're just fans.

Pittsburgh had 5 lottery picks in a row.

the nords had a few firsts ina row and a bunch of high picks.
etc etc

its to try and make the bad teams better.

if youre trying to say that this stretch for the oilers is as bad as uve seen, I wont disagree its right up there. but outside of that, your point doesn't really make a lot of sense
- Ihateallofu

And those teams (Colorado, obviously) at least showed progress and won a championship(s).

The Oil are going backwards.

Yes you need help. But not in the form of a #1 pick. It's been done 3 times and hasn't worked in the slightest.

You are actually worse than when you had no 1st overall picks on the roster. How exactly does that happen?
- sbroads24

So if free agents won't sign here and good players invoke their NTC to not come here, how exactly are we supposed to rebuild the team other than through the draft?

we don't plan anything. we're just fans.

Pittsburgh had 5 lottery picks in a row.

the nords had a few firsts ina row and a bunch of high picks.
etc etc

its to try and make the bad teams better.

if youre trying to say that this stretch for the oilers is as bad as uve seen, I wont disagree its right up there. but outside of that, your point doesn't really make a lot of sense
- Ihateallofu

It's not merely right up there. It's the worst ever.

And those teams (Colorado, obviously) at least showed progress and won a championship(s).

The Oil are going backwards.
- grand-magus

well they won a championship AFTER the picks of course.

4 seasons after their first lottery, pittsburgh finished 2nd last.

anyways, im not interested in arguing the merits of other teams rebuild. theres been some very bumpy roads for many rebuilders.
but yes, the oilers are still bad

It's not merely right up there. It's the worst ever.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

maybe yeah

So if free agents won't sign here and good players invoke their NTC to not come here, how exactly are we supposed to rebuild the team other than through the draft?
- Ihatebrianburke

Lets not just play the victim "no one will sign here" nonsense.

How about hit on a second round or beyond pick ?

How about making a deal for someone to center a second line?

The Oilers could have improved, chose not to and will be rewarded with yet another top pick. At this point the system should change.

maybe yeah
- Ihateallofu

and I used to preach patience. I used to try and be the voice of reason. But this season is killing it for me. I see nothing to bring hope. Merely a faint hope that Katz may wake up and realize that there is no way to fix this. It needs to be burnt down.

well they won a championship AFTER the picks of course.

4 seasons after their first lottery, pittsburgh finished 2nd last.

anyways, im not interested in arguing the merits of other teams rebuild. theres been some very bumpy roads for many rebuilders.
but yes, the oilers are still bad
- Ihateallofu

We also never got a Crosby or Malkin in the lottery.

No one sees a quick fix. What this team needs is a complete reconstruction, from the top down. Even if they add the pieces you suggest, this is not a contending roster.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Oh there is plenty of people who think a different coach would make this a playoff team, or if we traded Eberle we would get all of the pieces we need.

Lets not just play the victim "no one will sign here" nonsense.

How about hit on a second round or beyond pick ?

How about making a deal for someone to center a second line?

The Oilers could have improved, chose not to and will be rewarded with yet another top pick. At this point the system should change.
- sbroads24

Wish in one hand, poop in the other. See which fills up first. Our draft record beyond the first round in painful.

Oh there is plenty of people who think a different coach would make this a playoff team, or if we traded Eberle we would get all of the pieces we need.
- TokenBlack

Morons exist all over.

Lets not just play the victim "no one will sign here" nonsense.

How about hit on a second round or beyond pick ?

How about making a deal for someone to center a second line?

The Oilers could have improved, chose not to and will be rewarded with yet another top pick. At this point the system should change.
- sbroads24

they didn't choose anything.
you have zero proof to back up that mact wants to fail. and u saying so, doesn't make it true.

hes not wrong that the oilers cant sign big name free agents. hes right.
hes not wrong that the oilers have in fact tried to both trade and sign big names and they've refused. hes right .
hes not wrong that mact has only been able to sign secondary picks and overpay for those. hes right.

petry was a decent 2nd rounder. marincin might be.
and theres a few in the system that could still turn out.
but if u mean the guys prior to the teardown. then yeah, our drafting was horrible.
and even these newer guys might be too (chases's, khairas, moroz's etc). but the new media wisdom about our later picks is skewed. some are still developing. we'll see.

I don't see how changing the system changes anything

Wish in one hand, poop in the other. See which fills up first. Our draft record beyond the first round in painful.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Right, and it's a shame that come June, they will have the luxury of calling out Connor McDavid's name, then falling asleep until October