Understood regarding teams cap concerns. But you are nuts if you think a pending UFA in Franson and an oft-injured winger in Lupul is going to net you Yandle
- uf1910

100% Bubba

I'd do that deal for Hanzal, not sure the MN would though.
- James_Tanner

I think they are souring on Coyle a bit, and Spurgeons trade value will never be higher. We need a legitimate center who can put in 20 goals a season especially in the tough central. We dont have that right now hence probably not going anywhere in the playoffs, that is if we make them...

I don't see why not. The Leafs are going nowhere unless they get a top-pairing Dman, they've already wasted enough of Kessel's prime and what else have they got to trade to get that Dman they need?
- James_Tanner

Nylander will make the leafs team next year is why. He has the skill set to make it this year but wanted him to gain a bit more strength. This is why you dont trade him. Our next best prospect is Connor Brown who I love a lot and is leading the AHL marlies in points. I would be hard pressed to move him also.
I see a deal more around kadri for yandle and im sure leafs want domi coming back somehow.

I don't think there is any denying that Yandle is a really good Dman and 29 other teams would love to have him. That being said I'm not sure I can get on board with your determination that he would get 8million/yr when he becomes ufa....sorry I just don't see that happening.

I don't see the Leafs parting with Nylander. He is a great prospect and with the constant talk of Kadri being a trading piece for TML, it makes holding onto Nylander that much more important.

As for Gardiner...all I'll say is he is not a future Yandle. IF he was, why would the Leafs move him for 1 1/2 seasons of Yandle?
- Sens2k5

All this ^

Nylander will make the leafs team next year is why. He has the skill set to make it this year but wanted him to gain a bit more strength. This is why you dont trade him. Our next best prospect is Connor Brown who I love a lot and is leading the AHL marlies in points. I would be hard pressed to move him also.
I see a deal more around kadri for yandle and im sure leafs want domi coming back somehow.
- jake24242

So the infamous Kadri and Gardiner package for whatever highly sought after player + ???

Nylander is the next Kadri in Leafs eyes hes not even close to a trade option.
- jake24242

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So the infamous Kadri and Gardiner package for whatever highly sought after player + ???
- Jeropotato

I think Yandle would also be a decent fit for Montreal - the defense is old as dirt and Therrien doesnt seem to want to play youth so maybe getting a guy like Yandle would be a solution.

Not sure what it would take though from Montreal...probably too much to make it worthwhile with Beauflow and Tinner on the farm.

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- Feds91Stammer

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- Feds91Stammer

Wrong.

So the infamous Kadri and Gardiner package for whatever highly sought after player + ???
- Jeropotato

Sure if not then we don't get a trade done

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- Feds91Stammer

Mantha is the next john scott

Sure if not then we don't get a trade done
- jake24242

Why would you trade Kadri with the thoughts that Nylander will ultimately be his successor if Nylander is 2-3 years away from effectively replacing Kadri?

Mantha is the next john scott
- jake24242

This makes so much sense...

Why so salty? It's okay to be excited about prospects but I would recommend pumping the brakes on making comparisons to one of the best two way players of all time.

This makes so much sense...

Why so salty? It's okay to be excited about prospects but I would recommend pumping the brakes on making comparisons to one of the best two way players of all time.
- Feds91Stammer

Okay now I'm confused. I detect sarcasm but are you saying Kadri is one of the best 2-way players of all time?

Okay now I'm confused. I detect sarcasm but are you saying Kadri is one of the best 2-way players of all time?
- Jeropotato

LOLOLOLOL no his post before I corrected it was saying Nylander was the next Datsyuk

I don't see why not. The Leafs are going nowhere unless they get a top-pairing Dman, they've already wasted enough of Kessel's prime and what else have they got to trade to get that Dman they need?
- James_Tanner

Yandle isn't a top pairing D-man. he's a 3-4.

Top pairing d-men:

Doughty
Weber
Keith
Seabrook
J-Bo
Peitrangelo
Subban
Karlsson
Ekblad (soon to be)
Chara
Vlasic
Giordano
Suter
O.E-L

I'm surely missing some too, but Yandle isn't one of them.


Sadly there aren't many true top pairing d-men out there, just a whole lot of pretenders. The rest are 3-4 guys forced into 1-2 guys

Do the world a favour and stop writing about hockey. You know absolutley nothing about the sport!!! Gardiner and Nylander for Yandle??? you are so delusional it's not even funny...you actually need to go see someone.

no team....not a single 1 would trade their 1st round draft pick for Yandle, not that he;s not good...he's very good. But Cap space is a major issue with most teams. The teams that have the cap room, are in rebuilding mode and have little use for a 28 or 29 year old D man that makes over 5 million a season.

If the leafs and Yotes make a deal it wil be for Lupul and Franson for Yandle. thats about as realisic as a deal that would happen, and about Cap reality.
- Kinggilmour

Why is it that the people who always insult you and tell you how stupid you are always have the dumbest ideas themselves? I am glad you are so plugged into what all 30 teams are willing to pay for an elite offensive, first pairing defensemen.

Also, Jake Gardiner's cap hit is one million less than Yandle's so it's not like that couldn't easily be worked out. And let's not even get into how stupid it would be for Toronto to acquire Yandle if they were going to move Franson just on the cusp of his becoming a top pairing player.

The only thing good about your comment is the irony, because you are way, way out to lunch. Honestly, I'm still laughing about the idea that no team would trade a precious first rounder for a top pairing defensemen.........truly a classic. Thanks.

Couturier and either MacDonald or Coburn. Has to include one of those D purely from a salary cap stand-point.

Couturier, Coburn, and Read for Yandle, Boedker, and Dauphin or Samuelsson? Something like that?

Do the world a favour and stop writing about hockey. You know absolutley nothing about the sport!!! Gardiner and Nylander for Yandle??? you are so delusional it's not even funny...you actually need to go see someone.

no team....not a single 1 would trade their 1st round draft pick for Yandle, not that he;s not good...he's very good. But Cap space is a major issue with most teams. The teams that have the cap room, are in rebuilding mode and have little use for a 28 or 29 year old D man that makes over 5 million a season.

If the leafs and Yotes make a deal it wil be for Lupul and Franson for Yandle. thats about as realisic as a deal that would happen, and about Cap reality.
- Kinggilmour

Although this is slightly over the top, he is right about a lot of things. Everything from James knowledge, or lack thereof, to the ideal trade return for Yandle.

This makes so much sense...

Why so salty? It's okay to be excited about prospects but I would recommend pumping the brakes on making comparisons to one of the best two way players of all time.
- Feds91Stammer

I never said he was the next datsyuk I'm saying he plays the same style. Just liken when they say Sam bennitt is compared to toes

Yandle isn't a top pairing D-man. he's a 3-4.

Top pairing d-men:

Doughty
Weber
Keith
Seabrook
J-Bo
Peitrangelo
Subban
Karlsson
Ekblad (soon to be)
Chara
Vlasic
Giordano
Suter
O.E-L

I'm surely missing some too, but Yandle isn't one of them.


Sadly there aren't many true top pairing d-men out there, just a whole lot of pretenders. The rest are 3-4 guys forced into 1-2 guys
- BodyCheckRadio

Yandle produces points at an elite level and plays 24+ minutes a night. He is a top pair dman

I never said he was the next datsyuk I'm saying he plays the same style. Just liken when they say Sam bennitt is compared to toes
- jake24242

Nobody plays the same style as Datsyuk.

LOLOLOLOL no his post before I corrected it was saying Nylander was the next Datsyuk
- Feds91Stammer

Ah well, that's the legendary jake24242 for Ya.

Yandle isn't a top pairing D-man. he's a 3-4.

Top pairing d-men:

Doughty
Weber
Keith
Seabrook
J-Bo
Peitrangelo
Subban
Karlsson
Ekblad (soon to be)
Chara
Vlasic
Giordano
Suter
O.E-L

I'm surely missing some too, but Yandle isn't one of them.


Sadly there aren't many true top pairing d-men out there, just a whole lot of pretenders. The rest are 3-4 guys forced into 1-2 guys
- BodyCheckRadio

You're not listing top pairing Dmen, you're just listing your biased group of who you think the best D in the NHL are. For the record, there are 60 top pairing positions in the NHL. Now, somes teams have more than two top pairing guys and some teams have less. You could spend all day refining the definition of what exactly you mean by top pairing defenseman, but itd be a waste of time.

Because seriously, if you don't think Yandle makes the above list, you haven't been watching him play. He's better than several of the players you've mentioned and believe me, for him to drive play as much as he does on a team as bad as Arizona, and to be as well known as he is, despite playing in Arizona, if he was on a team like Pittsburgh, New York or Toronto he'd be one of the biggest stars in the NHL.

Although this is slightly over the top, he is right about a lot of things. Everything from James knowledge, or lack thereof, to the ideal trade return for Yandle.
- BodyCheckRadio

No, maybe he's right about me, but the rest was extremely stupid. Extremely.