Ryan Wilson: Germans Help Lead Penguins To Record Tying November Germans Help Lead Penguins To Record Tying November

Bortuzzo Despres would be an ideal 3rd paring for any NHL team. It will never happen though. Good thing is Scuds isn't playing that terrible, he had a couple of nice breakout passes last night where he usually would have high off the glassed it.

Ehrhoff was the only German. "Germans" is incorrect in the title. Griess was only a factor on the score sheet not in actuality.

Nice read and a nice win that was not easy. Carolina is a hard working team.

Ehrhoff was the only German. "Germans" is incorrect in the title. Griess was only a factor on the score sheet not in actuality.
- wreckage

Who pissed in your Cheerios?

Time to give Scuderi a night off in the pressbox with some nachos

Bortuzzo Despres would be an ideal 3rd paring for any NHL team. It will never happen though. Good thing is Scuds isn't playing that terrible, he had a couple of nice breakout passes last night where he usually would have high off the glassed it.
- Grinder47

I am sorry but Bortuzzo is no more than a 7-8 Dman on any team in the NHL. To say he wold be an "ideal" anything else is laughable. Capable yes. But ideal no.

Who pissed in your Cheerios?
- powerhouse

Am I wrong to call a spade a spade? Did Griess play that much of a part of that W? I didn't see it. It's not like the pens played edmonton and draisatl coughed it up to Syd or Gino 6 times nor Griess made 5 key beauty saves. Was I watching a different game?

Am I wrong to call a spade a spade? Did Griess play that much of a part of that W? I didn't see it. It's not like the pens played edmonton and draisatl coughed it up to Syd or Gino 6 times nor Griess made 5 key beauty saves. Was I watching a different game?
- wreckage

So goaltender's don't count? I'm confused.

I am sorry but Bortuzzo is no more than a 7-8 Dman on any team in the NHL. To say he wold be an "ideal" anything else is laughable. Capable yes. But ideal no.
- wreckage

I disagree. There are a lot of teams in the NHL with much worse 6th d man than Bortuzzo.

So goaltender's don't count? I'm confused.
- powerhouse

Count yes. But was Griess key to the W yesterday? As the title eluded to.

So what trade proposal are the Pens moving 3 or 4 roster players + 1st +D Prospects for Kane or Eberle today?

Trade everyone for Jagr!!!!!!!!!!!!

I disagree. There are a lot of teams in the NHL with much worse 6th d man than Bortuzzo.
- Grinder47

Take off the home team colors and assess depth charts before you make such comments. Bertuzzo is/was listed as the team's 8/9th defensmen entering the year. Behind a couple of strong prospects like Harrington and Pouliot. 24 games does not make a 7-8-9 guy a 6 on many professional teams. Serviceable yes. But I think you are over valuing him.

Count yes. But was Griess key to the W yesterday? As the title eluded to.
- wreckage

Did he steal the game.....obviously not. He did however make a handful of really good saves and is proving to be a nice asset. Looks smooth and confident.

So what trade proposal are the Pens moving 3 or 4 roster players + 1st +D Prospects for Kane or Eberle today?
- sammy87

And which 2 defensive prospects will they counter with claiming that is worth more than Kane or Eberle?

Did he steal the game.....obviously not. He did however make a handful of really good saves and is proving to be a nice asset. Looks smooth and confident.
- madmike71

And all I was trying to say/prove is that it wasn't "Germans" that won that game. One had a integral point. But the other had no major impact. Did he save enough shots, yes. Did he win it, no.

And all I was trying to say/prove is that it wasn't "Germans" that won that game. One had a integral point. But the other had no major impact. Did he save enough shots, yes. Did he win it, no.
- wreckage

Please clarify something for me. When a goalies team scores more goals than the other team, which column does the marker go in, win or loss? I believe the correct answer is WIN , therefore making your point as dumb as it sounds. It was literally the goalie who won the game.

And all I was trying to say/prove is that it wasn't "Germans" that won that game. One had a integral point. But the other had no major impact. Did he save enough shots, yes. Did he win it, no.
- wreckage

bizarre...

32 saves in a game decided by one goal seems like a pretty major impact, maybe even more so than what was basically a late insurance goal at the time.

bizarre...

32 saves in a game decided by one goal seems like a pretty major impact, maybe even more so than what was basically a late insurance goal at the time.
- rival22

Yes. Criticizing a headline is

Here are NHL team defensive stats. If you are looking for a trading partner with the Pens look at the bottom 5-6 teams.

http://www.oddsshark.com/nhl/defensive-stats

Yes. Criticizing a headline is
- madmike71

That is my point. It's like whatev.....

Please clarify something for me. When a goalies team scores more goals than the other team, which column does the marker go in, win or loss? I believe the correct answer is WIN , therefore making your point as dumb as it sounds. It was literally the goalie who won the game.
- thickman1178

And how many GOALS did that goalie score? Cause I don't think you WIN by scoring goals. You can win games from a team game keeping shots outside and from afar without traffic. Hell, someone as narrow-minded as you could win a couple that way. Did Griess do anything, ANYTHING, to say he won that game? I am not saying he is a bad G or even a bad #2, but he was not a KEY in that W as the title of this blog attempts to say considering he is the 2nd German on this team.

Take off the home team colors and assess depth charts before you make such comments. Bertuzzo is/was listed as the team's 8/9th defensmen entering the year. Behind a couple of strong prospects like Harrington and Pouliot. 24 games does not make a 7-8-9 guy a 6 on many professional teams. Serviceable yes. But I think you are over valuing him.
- wreckage

Shall we call you Wreckage or Disco Dan? Bortuzzo has played well as a solid 5-6 d man... that's a fact!

Take off the home team colors and assess depth charts before you make such comments. Bertuzzo is/was listed as the team's 8/9th defensmen entering the year. Behind a couple of strong prospects like Harrington and Pouliot. 24 games does not make a 7-8-9 guy a 6 on many professional teams. Serviceable yes. But I think you are over valuing him.
- wreckage

Paul Holmgren has secretly joined HB!

wreckage - "now, I;ll do you guys a favor and take that bum off your hands...."