stevekariya
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Location: Gaud's Plan, BC Joined: 09.19.2014
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Ducks just burned a 3rd rounder for Eric Brewer...
Defense is expensive |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Ducks just burned a 3rd rounder for Eric Brewer...
Defense is expensive - stevekariya
Yeah, apparently it was a 3rd from the Oilers so that's gonna be top 5 most likely. Not bad to get a top 70 pick for a depth d-man with an expiring deal.
Yzerman basically traded Brewer, + late 2nd for Garrison + early 3rd. |
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belcherbd
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Location: Nanaimo Joined: 02.16.2007
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Yeah, apparently it was a 3rd from the Oilers so that's gonna be top 5 most likely. Not bad to get a top 70 pick for a depth d-man with an expiring deal.
Yzerman basically traded Brewer, + late 2nd for Garrison + early 3rd. - Nucker101
So whats better spending a 3rd on a 5-6 vet Dman or a 3rd on 21 year old B grade prospect?
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bezz44
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Location: Inside the scroatee, BC Joined: 05.29.2014
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So whats better spending a 3rd on a 5-6 vet Dman or a 3rd on 21 year old B grade prospect? - belcherbd
Depends on your team but I'd probably say the B prospect |
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we_are_all_canucks
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Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking. Joined: 09.29.2007
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Matthias - 26
Kassian - 23
I was (and still am) a fan of tanking for a great draft pick but if the canucks are going to try and stay competitive while retooling then I wouldn't move Kassian just yet. I would actually keep both. If you're going to make the playoffs you need big, strong, skilled guys.
Kassian is a headcase, but if WD can figure him out then he's worth keeping. Give WD a season with him... - bloatedmosquito
This.
Patience people, winning the holy grail called the Presidents Cup doesn't just happen overnight. |
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vancity787
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: My Parents Basement, BC Joined: 07.14.2008
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Hossa's on the Block. I want young talent B!tchezzzz |
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kneughter
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Location: “yup call came in, but as pe Joined: 07.14.2009
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Ya I disagree with you there, if you look at their corsi, Kassian is killing them both at -2 compared to -25 for Matthias and -35 for Richardson.
Which if you don't know what corsi is, takes all shot attempts for minus shot attempts against while on the ice and is a decent indicator of whether you are getting outplayed on a regular basis.
Kassian will be fine and this team can't afford to move out any size up front. - belcherbd
corsi? Never heard of it... is that like a players trait? Similar to having truculence? |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Hossa's on the Block. I want young talent B!tchezzzz - vancity787
Klingberg for Hossa, Marleau and Kemper. |
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Klingberg for Hossa, Marleau and Kemper. - Nucker101
SJ will fire their GM this year |
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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: The Clit Whisperer Joined: 10.22.2011
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Soooo... where the (frank) is everybody?
Must be Grey Cup parties. |
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pker2theend
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Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a Joined: 11.29.2011
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Soooo... where the (frank) is everybody?
Must be Grey Cup parties. - bloatedmosquito
Exam studying..... |
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Bieksa with a few BRUTAL turnovers.
This is becoming all to regular to tell you the truth.
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Bieksa with a few BRUTAL turnovers.
This is becoming all to regular to tell you the truth. - classic321
Trade the bastard |
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bezz44
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Inside the scroatee, BC Joined: 05.29.2014
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Bieksa with a few BRUTAL turnovers.
This is becoming all to regular to tell you the truth. - classic321
This has been his trademark for as long as I have watched him play.
He is not a guy to make the safe play. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't |
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bezz44
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Inside the scroatee, BC Joined: 05.29.2014
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Great backcheck by Edler there. I am starting to not hate him |
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bloatedmosquito
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Location: The Clit Whisperer Joined: 10.22.2011
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This has been his trademark for as long as I have watched him play.
He is not a guy to make the safe play. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't - bezz44
I was thinking the exact same thing. I've seen it for so long I've come to accept it. |
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bezz44
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Location: Inside the scroatee, BC Joined: 05.29.2014
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I was thinking the exact same thing. I've seen it for so long I've come to accept it. - bloatedmosquito
Yup, he is just not a safe hockey player. As He Who Must Not Be Named said he is a gunslinger. That is why I find him and Sbisa so similar, though I actually think Sbisa could end up being better than KB |
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Zogg
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.16.2005
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This.
Patience people, winning the holy grail called the Presidents Cup doesn't just happen overnight. - we_are_all_canucks
Just remember how many years it took Bertuzzi to hit his stride -7.
There is no way I would give up on Kassian, this is precisely the knee-jerk type of reaction which impedes franchises from improving. I don't care if he has to play on the 3 or 4 line for the next two years until WD figures out the best way to get him going. there's no way I would trade him. |
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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: The Clit Whisperer Joined: 10.22.2011
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Exam studying.....  - pker2theend
(frank) education!*
*but if you want to be successful, ignore this recommendation. |
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bezz44
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Inside the scroatee, BC Joined: 05.29.2014
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(frank) education!*
*but if you want to be successful, ignore this recommendation. - bloatedmosquito
In this economy I would say your first statement is more accurate unless you are in engineering or business |
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Zogg
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(frank) education!*
*but if you want to be successful, ignore this recommendation. - bloatedmosquito
nothing to do with hockey but I found this video quite compelling.Check it out if you have a moment http://youtu.be/itvnQ2QB4yc
And take it for what you will |
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Gullzy
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 02.07.2013
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Just remember how many years it took Bertuzzi to hit his stride -7.
There is no way I would give up on Kassian, this is precisely the knee-jerk type of reaction which impedes franchises from improving. I don't care if he has to play on the 3 or 4 line for the next two years until WD figures out the best way to get him going. there's no way I would trade him. - Zogg
Unfair comparison IMO. Bertuzzi was not a complete defensive liability while he took his time to find his offensive game. Kassian has some offensive skill, but kid is a complete liability away from the puck. Once you reach the NHL, I think it's fair to expect a certain amount of defensive responsibility from all your players. I hope he figures it out soon, cause I'm starting to get impatient with him. |
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bloatedmosquito
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Location: The Clit Whisperer Joined: 10.22.2011
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In this economy I would say your first statement is more accurate unless you are in engineering or business - bezz44
I said nothing about school
I have never let my schooling interfere with my education.
- Mark Twain
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Zogg
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.16.2005
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Unfair comparison IMO. Bertuzzi was not a complete defensive liability while he took his time to find his offensive game. Kassian has some offensive skill, but kid is a complete liability away from the puck. Once you reach the NHL, I think it's fair to expect a certain amount of defensive responsibility from all your players. I hope he figures it out soon, cause I'm starting to get impatient with him. - Gullzy
I agree that Kassian needs work on both sides of the puck; however, I think he is ahead of where Bertuzz was before he managed to 'figure' things out. Bertuzzi's plus minus (before he 'broke' out was a brutal -65 ). I haven't checked Kassian's totals but I'm fairly certain he is nowhere near that number.
Again, further patience is required or we are going to let a potential power forward go for virtually nothing |
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