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classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Nov 26 @ 1:14 AM ET




So apparently according to Mackenzie Edmonton is close to Trading Perron for Anisimov.


Mactavish is making Gillis look like the a Genius. I actually think that makes Edmonton even worse than before.

What a terrible GM.

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 26 @ 1:16 AM ET
So apparently according to Mackenzie Edmonton is close to Trading Perron for Anisimov.


Mactavish is making Gillis look like the a Genius. I actually think that makes Edmonton even worse than before.

What a terrible GM.


- classic321


Anisimov is a solid 2/3LC, they desperately need one. Perron is a solid 2LW, but they still have Hall, Yak, Eberle, Puliot and Purcell on the wings when healthy. They really need Anismov to slot in on the 2nd line to slot in behind Nuge and ahead of Gordon. Draisaitl isn't ready yet.
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Nov 26 @ 1:19 AM ET
Anisimov is a solid 2/3LC, they desperately need one. Perron is a solid 2LW, but they still have Hall, Yak, Eberle, Puliot and Purcell on the wings when healthy. They really need Anismov to slot in on the 2nd line to slot in behind Nuge and ahead of Gordon. Draisaitl isn't ready yet.
- Nucker101

I have a strong feeling that Draisaitl will be a bust... he isn't very quick... nothing about him stands out
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Nov 26 @ 1:20 AM ET
So apparently according to Mackenzie Edmonton is close to Trading Perron for Anisimov.


Mactavish is making Gillis look like the a Genius. I actually think that makes Edmonton even worse than before.

What a terrible GM.


- classic321

He'd probably choose KHL over Oilers.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 26 @ 1:20 AM ET
I have a feeling strong feeling that Draisaitl will be a bust... he isn't very quick... nothing about him stands out
- kneughter



That's pretty early to say, I was pretty high on him. But still thought Reinhart and Bennett were better.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Nov 26 @ 1:22 AM ET
Anisimov is a solid 2/3LC, they desperately need one. Perron is a solid 2LW, but they still have Hall, Yak, Eberle, Puliot and Purcell on the wings when healthy. They really need Anismov to slot in on the 2nd line to slot in behind Nuge and ahead of Gordon. Draisaitl isn't ready yet.
- Nucker101




I just don't get it. Either Yak, Nug, Eberle needs to go.


I say go big, this team has absolutely nothing to lose.

Gullzy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.07.2013

Nov 26 @ 1:26 AM ET
I just don't get it. Either Yak, Nug, Eberle needs to go.


I say go big, this team has absolutely nothing to lose.


- classic321


I'd trade two of them to address weaknesses. To start they should see if they can find a goaltender next FA period. If not, they should trade for one. They also desperately need help down the middle.

Honestly, I'd trade Hall if it made my team better.
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Nov 26 @ 1:26 AM ET
So apparently according to Mackenzie Edmonton is close to Trading Perron for Anisimov.


Mactavish is making Gillis look like the a Genius. I actually think that makes Edmonton even worse than before.

What a terrible GM.


- classic321



No kidding. Who thinks that trading a heart and soul guy like Perron for an enigmatic Russian will slow your franchise from swirling further down the toilet bowl.

I'd to have Perron on our team. I hope Benning is on the phone with mactavish right now apologizing for the Schneider fiasco, offering the reigning first star of the week as a peace offering. "Ah, just kick in Perron to even out the number of contracts, and we'll consider water under the bridge. Cool Beans?"
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 26 @ 1:27 AM ET
I'd trade two of them to address weaknesses. To start they should see if they can find a goaltender next FA period. If not, they should trade for one. They also desperately need help down the middle.

Honestly, I'd trade Hall if it made my team better.

- Gullzy



I don't see them getting a return for Hall that makes them better. He's their best player by a decent margin. Trading him leaves a huge hole up front for them.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 26 @ 1:28 AM ET
No kidding. Who thinks that trading a heart and soul guy like Perron for an enigmatic Russian will slow your franchise from swirling further down the toilet bowl.

I'd to have Perron on our team. I hope Benning is on the phone with mactavish right now apologizing for the Schneider fiasco, offering the reigning first star of the week as a peace offering. "Ah, just kick in Perron to even out the number of contracts, and we'll consider water under the bridge. Cool Beans?"

- PetrolSexual


Anisimov is a pretty solid two-way center and isn't soft. I do agree that they look at trading Eberle or Yakupov instead of Perron, I'd imagine they hold higher trade value as well.
Gullzy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.07.2013

Nov 26 @ 1:32 AM ET
I don't see them getting a return for Hall that makes them better. He's their best player by a decent margin. Trading him leaves a huge hole up front for them.
- Nucker101



I think they could improve their team say if they traded him to Anaheim. Silfverberg, Anderson, Gibson, Rackell, Belesky, Vatenen, Ritchie, and others. If you could snag a goalie, and 2-3 of the players listed above in a multiplayer deal, would you?

It doesn't necessarily address the issue down the middle, but you could look to trade Yak for help down the middle, and go from there. Consider that that they'll be picking in the top-5 again, I'd consider "starting from scratch" once more.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 26 @ 1:34 AM ET
Don't ever remember him in my pool. I forgot about him but you know there is always someone willing to remind you.
- VANTEL



Gullzy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.07.2013

Nov 26 @ 1:36 AM ET
I think they could improve their team say if they traded him to Anaheim. Silfverberg, Anderson, Gibson, Rackell, Belesky, Vatenen, Ritchie, and others. If you could snag a goalie, and 2-3 of the players listed above in a multiplayer deal, would you?

It doesn't necessarily address the issue down the middle, but you could look to trade Yak for help down the middle, and go from there. Considering that that they'll be picking in the top-5 again, I'd consider "starting from scratch" once more.

- Gullzy

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 26 @ 1:36 AM ET
I think they could improve their team say if they traded him to Anaheim. Silfverberg, Anderson, Gibson, Rackell, Belesky, Vatenen, Ritchie, and others. If you could snag a goalie, and 2-3 of the players listed above in a multiplayer deal, would you?
- Gullzy


Id rather keep the proven player who's gonna be a 30+ goal scorer and PPG player instead of trading him for 2-3 hopefuls. He just turned 23, it's not his fault the est of the team blows. They should look to trade guys like Yak/Ebs/Perron/Schultz for centers/goalies/d-men


If I was Mac T I'd say everyone besides Hall, RNH and Draisaitl are available. But I'd likely hold onto the 2015 first at this point. Eberle, Yakupov, Petry, Perron, Schultz should all be up for grabs.
Gullzy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.07.2013

Nov 26 @ 1:38 AM ET
Id rather keep the proven player who's gonna be a 30+ goal scorer and PPG player instead of trading him for 2-3 hopefuls. He just turned 23, it's not his fault the est of the team blows. They should look to trade guys like Yak/Ebs/Perron/Schultz for centers/goalies/d-men
- Nucker101



It's not a given, but I'd consider anything if I was in their position. They've remained stagnant for the better part of the last decade.
Gullzy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.07.2013

Nov 26 @ 1:39 AM ET
Id rather keep the proven player who's gonna be a 30+ goal scorer and PPG player instead of trading him for 2-3 hopefuls. He just turned 23, it's not his fault the est of the team blows. They should look to trade guys like Yak/Ebs/Perron/Schultz for centers/goalies/d-men


If I was Mac T I'd say everyone besides Hall, RNH and Draisaitl are available. But I'd likely hold onto the 2015 first at this point. Eberle, Yakupov, Petry, Perron, Schultz should all be up for grabs.

- Nucker101


Schultz would be an untouchable for me btw; LOL.

The real question is, when are they going to replace Dallas Eakins?
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 26 @ 1:45 AM ET
We traded a 2nd and 3rd for him. Then matched the Blues 2.5m offer sheet. Then traded him to the panthers with grabner and a first for Ballard.
- Scooby_Doo


I wonder who they selected with those picks.

Even this season there was still someone defending that trade. Closet Gillis fans are still lurking. Even someone today said Gillis made more good moves than bad... Not so sure(im lying, Im sure)... maybe if you count all the moves that were not bad as good instead of calling them irrelevant, lateral, or yet to be determined.


I think a more realistic statement would be that not all his moves were bad.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Nov 26 @ 1:47 AM ET



So what do you guys think about this massive road coming up.

7 games in 12 days.


Only team that really scares me is Pittsburgh.

4 or 5 of 7 would be a success.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Nov 26 @ 1:52 AM ET
So what do you guys think about this massive road coming up.

7 games in 12 days.


Only team that really scares me is Pittsburgh.

4 or 5 of 7 would be a success.

- classic321


I am glad they are building up wins where they should. You go 75% against the teams you are supposed to beat and 50% against the contenders and you are in the playoffs.

As for success on the trip... 50% and no injuries.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Nov 26 @ 1:56 AM ET
I wonder who they selected with those picks.

Even this season there was still someone defending that trade. Closet Gillis fans are still lurking. Even someone today said Gillis made more good moves than bad... Not so sure(im lying, Im sure)... maybe if you count all the moves that were not bad as good instead of calling them irrelevant, lateral, or yet to be determined.


I think a more realistic statement would be that not all his moves were bad.

- boonerbuck


I was a real defender or Gillis while he was here. I drank the cool-aid and asked for more. What changed for me was Marco Sturm. Gillis showed then that he had no plan.

In the end, we won;t remember him for 2011 but his treatment of the goalies will always be his legacy.

That and always picking up poop rentals at the deadline. I don;t even remember half of them... who was the guy who trademarked a tinted visor and and only played one more season to market the damn thing?
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Nov 26 @ 2:14 AM ET
Sbisa is growing on me every game
- VANTEL

Like a fungus or something else...

I like the way Sbisa has picked up his game every night with the confidence Willie has shown him... I like the way Willie gives the player a chance to correct himself before benching, or sitting the player... Let alone yelling at him like some kind of goomba...
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Nov 26 @ 3:31 AM ET
As the media is all over Edmonton right now, I thought it would be interesting to see how their chances of success are at sportsclubstats.com

The very minimum chance, at 0.1% for Edmonton to make the Playoffs is for them to go 31 - 21 - 8 for the remainder of the year. That would only give them 84 points so for that to actually happen, everyone else needs to tank except for the top three teams and Edmonton.

More realistic would be 95 points and for that they would need to go 36-15-7... and still this would only give them an 88% chance of making the playoffs.

But Sportsclubstats rates them as needing 100 points or 39-13 and 8 to make it at 100% and finish somewhere 6,7 or 8.

To guarantee the playoffs by being in the top three in their division, they would need to go 42-11-7.

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 26 @ 6:39 AM ET
Is Bieksa playing better without Hamhuis? Just asking... and thinking...

Sbisa hasn't stood out like a Dufus for quite a while now. He fits in with his physical game now that he's relaxed and dropped some of the pressure that was on him.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 26 @ 9:30 AM ET
Is Bieksa playing better without Hamhuis? Just asking... and thinking...

Sbisa hasn't stood out like a Dufus for quite a while now. He fits in with his physical game now that he's relaxed and dropped some of the pressure that was on him.

- boonerbuck


I like Sbisa and I like the direction of this D. I think one more solid addition and it will be amongst the leagues best.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Nov 26 @ 10:21 AM ET
Is Bieksa playing better without Hamhuis? Just asking... and thinking...

Sbisa hasn't stood out like a Dufus for quite a while now. He fits in with his physical game now that he's relaxed and dropped some of the pressure that was on him.

- boonerbuck


Weber has looked Amazing! I didn't know he could skate with the puck like that.

Stanton is the only d man who's struggling IMO.
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