Ha no it was actually a Yoda quote.

In my world of make-believe, this is the team I want.

Kane-Sid-Jags
Kuni-Geno-Horny
Downie-Goc-Bennett
Comeau-Spaling-Adams

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- nbartley9

My only concern with that lineup is Goc. I just find him to be a very vanilla player. Advanced stats may show him in a positive light, but I just dont see it during games. He doesnt really get me excited--not fast, not aggressive, doesnt really battle in the dirty areas, not much of a shot, and isnt creative with the puck. Ill probably be burned for saying it, but he strikes me as a young Craig Adams.


Was really hoping it was a "there is another suitor" reference

Serious question, has Dupuis even officially been put on LTIR yet? I haven't read anything about it. That significantly impacts if/when we would want to make a move.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

If we put him on now, don't we get more to use towards cap?

If we put him on now, don't we get more to use towards cap?
- znagle

Nah. If there is 75% of the season left then the pens get 75% of his contract in relief. So the ratio will be the same whether they put him on now or in a week. At least I believe this is how it is. ha

Nah. If there is 75% of the season left then the pens get 75% of his contract in relief. So the ratio will be the same whether they put him on now or in a week. At least I believe this is how it is. ha
- kgrpitt

Question is, why hasn't he been put on LTIR already? Not worried about it, just trying to figure out why they wouldn't have done it already.

Would love buff but good luck trying to get that gm to do any trade...

Serious question, has Dupuis even officially been put on LTIR yet? I haven't read anything about it. That significantly impacts if/when we would want to make a move.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Yes he has!

What Top-2 or Top-4 Dman are available, signed long-term & without a NTC? Yakupov might land you one (if you can think of one, as I can't), but Perron certainly won't.

Overall, I'm not disagreeing with you; If I was playing NHL15 I'd do the same thing. But, in real life, how long can you just keep up finishing last season after season?

The Penguins were just as bad & only had 5 seasons (counting the lockout) of not making the Playoffs. Turned it around before the end of Crosby's ELC. Oilers are going on 8 seasons of futility w/ no end in sight. Finished last or second to last in the division every year w/ the exception of the lock-out season, where they finished 3rd.

Patience is good, but you have to change something when its this bad for this long.
- s0rcerer1984

So people telling me no center is available for Edmonton and now there are no defenseman available. So what you're saying is Edmonton won't be able to make a trade?

Just from looking at cap geek, there are quite a few defenseman who are signed for a few more years that could be traded for the right price. Perron isn't worth a top Dman, but combine him with a 2nd rounder (will be essentially a late 1st) and he could bring in something decent.

So people telling me no center is available for Edmonton and now there are no defenseman available. So what you're saying is Edmonton won't be able to make a trade?
- drummer829

I'm asking you who you feel would be a legit 1C or Top-2D, or Top-4D target for Edmonton. I really can't think of many names myself.

Who do you think Edmonton can land & at what price?

EDIT: Also, feel free to state a pottential deal in the future. Ie, draft day. If you think Edmonton will end up with 3rd or 4th overall pick, that can be part of whatever deal you are thinking of. Even with those pieces, I still have trouble coming up with available names for Edm to target.

So people telling me no center is available for Edmonton and now there are no defenseman available. So what you're saying is Edmonton won't be able to make a trade?

Just from looking at cap geek, there are quite a few defenseman who are signed for a few more years that could be traded for the right price. Perron isn't worth a top Dman, but combine him with a 2nd rounder (will be essentially a late 1st) and he could bring in something decent.
- drummer829

No trying to be a d!ck, but who? Only Dman I can think of is J. Faulk in Carolina.

I'm asking you who you feel would be a legit 1C or Top-2D, or Top-4D target for Edmonton. I really can't think of many names myself.

Who do you think Edmonton can land & at what price?

EDIT: Also, feel free to state a potential deal in the future. Ie, draft day. If you think Edmonton will end up with 3rd or 4th overall pick, that can be part of whatever deal you are thinking of. Even with those pieces, I still have trouble coming up with available names for Edm to target.
- s0rcerer1984

basically what top line center, without a no trade clause, so someone either in their first or 2nd contract, would edmonton be able to target...so possibly a top center from a non-contender, although they would potentially have a NTC and say no to go to another non-contender...

thats a hell of a predicament...I just dont know who fits that bill

montreal isnt giving up galchenyuk
columbus doesnt have a top or even tier 2 center besides dubinsky whos been hurt all year
philly isnt trading schenn nor is he a top line center
maybe phoenx would trade vermette or boedker but theyd require a big return...maybe vermette and a pick for someone at edm?

I really dont know

I'm asking you who you feel would be a legit 1C or Top-2D, or Top-4D target for Edmonton. I really can't think of many names myself.

Who do you think Edmonton can land & at what price?

EDIT: Also, feel free to state a pottential deal in the future. Ie, draft day. If you think Edmonton will end up with 3rd or 4th overall pick, that can be part of whatever deal you are thinking of. Even with those pieces, I still have trouble coming up with available names for Edm to target.
- s0rcerer1984

Yandle for Perron + would benefit both teams. Also a young, yet promising d prospect (IE pouliot or Harrington) could benefit them. With Horton out indefinitely in Columbus, they look like they could use some extra offensive power. With Ryan Murray stepping in, I think Jack Johnson becomes expendable. They have plenty of options. As for centers, I think they should hang onto that 1st pick hoping for mcdavid. They don't necessarily need a #1 C as RNH is capable of that role, but a solid #2 guy would help. ROR could work if he is signed prior. Berglund from St. Louis could work. Berglund and the blues 1st (most likely late) for the oilers 1st (2nd-4th overall). Possibly hogdson from buffalo with girgensons, reinhart, and grigorenko. Point is that there are quite a few options

Yandle for Perron + would benefit both teams. Also a young, yet promising d prospect (IE pouliot or Harrington) could benefit them. With Horton out indefinitely in Columbus, they look like they could use some extra offensive power. With Ryan Murray stepping in, I think Jack Johnson becomes expendable. They have plenty of options. As for centers, I think they should hang onto that 1st pick hoping for mcdavid. They don't necessarily need a #1 C as RNH is capable of that role, but a solid #2 guy would help. ROR could work if he is signed prior.
- drummer829

Yandle: Could work. Still, Yandle can't sign any extension until July 1 & only has 1 more season left. Would he extend in Edmonton? No idea, but that could be a sticking point as Edmonton won't pay top dollar for an asset to see it walk away in 1.5 seasons. Might be the best option out of all of them, though.

Johnson: I just don't think he is any good. Edmonton would take a step back w/ him on the payroll, not forward in my book.

ROR: Spoke about him earlier, but same issue as Yandle in so far as getting him long-term, except, well, ROR's run-ins w/ COL amanegment have been well documented.

I have no time to read ALL 6 pages so if this sentiment is repeated I apologize... I would prefer Ladd to Perron. Plus Domo and a prospect is too much for a second line winger.

On another topic...same thread...Hossa was only with the Pens for a short time comparatively. Sid has never gotten a top tier winger. Every time the Pens get one he goes on Genos line.

Hey guys, longtime lurker, first time poster. I had an interested though re: a trade with Edmonton, and wanted to see what everyone else thinks.

I know Edmonton wants/needs a center, but they also always need goaltending. I'm curious if a certain goaltender in the Pens system who happens to already play in the city of Edmonton would be enticing to the Oilers, especially now that the Pens have extended Fleury...

Maybe it's too much to give up our best goaltending prospect, but what would people think of Tristan Jarry straight up for David Perron? Would we need to throw in a pick or D prospect?

Hey guys, longtime lurker, first time poster. I had an interested though re: a trade with Edmonton, and wanted to see what everyone else thinks.

I know Edmonton wants/needs a center, but they also always need goaltending. I'm curious if a certain goaltender in the Pens system who happens to already play in the city of Edmonton would be enticing to the Oilers, especially now that the Pens have extended Fleury...

Maybe it's too much to give up our best goaltending prospect, but what would people think of Tristan Jarry straight up for David Perron? Would we need to throw in a pick or D prospect?
- ehj5010

Jarry is MAFs replacement. He is as close to being untouchable (without being) as one can be.

I have no time to read ALL 6 pages so if this sentiment is repeated I apologize... I would prefer Ladd to Perron. Plus Domo and a prospect is too much for a second line winger.

On another topic...same thread...Hossa was only with the Pens for a short time comparatively. Sid has never gotten a top tier winger. Every time the Pens get one he goes on Genos line.
- Doogs

Peg is in a playoff position today. Unless something happens and they slide, I cant see them doing anything drastic. That city would burn. Martin will not waive to go there, nor would Peg want a rental. Sutter is tough to move now with Dupes out.

Wild are struggling, they might be more desperate to move a piece.

Your post about Jarry, the only people that are immovable are 87, 71, 58, 3, 29. Just about everyone else is fair game. If Jarry returns a young top 6, move him. MAF is still pretty young and locked up. Pouliott, I would move him too for a top 6.

Yandle: Could work. Still, Yandle can't sign any extension until July 1 & only has 1 more season left. Would he extend in Edmonton? No idea, but that could be a sticking point as Edmonton won't pay top dollar for an asset to see it walk away in 1.5 seasons. Might be the best option out of all of them, though.

Johnson: I just don't think he is any good. Edmonton would take a step back w/ him on the payroll, not forward in my book.

ROR: Spoke about him earlier, but same issue as Yandle in so far as getting him long-term, except, well, ROR's run-ins w/ COL amanegment have been well documented.
- s0rcerer1984

Giving up Yandle for Perron + isn't that big of a loss for Edmonton. Perron is a ufa when Yandle is. Yandle also may like it there because he will be one of the go to guys where as in AZ he isnt that guy anymore. Johnson still definitely has some life in him and would be looked at as more of a 2nd pairing guy. I said before ROR could work, but only if he was resigned prior to being traded.

Jarry is MAFs replacement. He is as close to being untouchable (without being) as one can be.
- Doogs

Which is why he has value. MAF won't need to be replaced for several years, which gives us plenty of time to draft and groom another replacement goalie.

You can't get something for nothing, unless the Islanders want to trade us Bill Guerin again... Or unless Jim Rutherford wants to trade us Jussi Jokinen again...

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- nbartley9

he is my king

san jose is another team struggling and open to making moves, any cahnce they let go any of their younger talent like hertl or wingels? I cant see us putting enough together for pavelski or couture for that matter, thoughts on that front?

martin, pouliout, and our 1st, for couture or pavelski and their first or second? they probably wouldnt do that I suppose

what about pouliout and a low pick for hertl and a lower pick maybe?

Peg is in a playoff position today. Unless something happens and they slide, I cant see them doing anything drastic. That city would burn. Martin will not waive to go there, nor would Peg want a rental. Sutter is tough to move now with Dupes out.

Wild are struggling, they might be more desperate to move a piece.

Your post about Jarry, the only people that are immovable are 87, 71, 58, 3, 29. Just about everyone else is fair game. If Jarry returns a young top 6, move him. MAF is still pretty young and locked up. Pouliott, I would move him too for a top 6.
- sammy87

I said as close as without being in regards to Jarry.

And why look to replace what you already have when you have a glut of D men to deal from. Jarry is very good and getting better.

Funny Pat Quinn story that I saw on Facebook today from Howard Baldwin Jr (son of former Pens & Whaler owner):


Could you imagine this happening today? TV camera pans to the bench and you see some random kid standing there lol.

It would have to be a significantly more valuable piece than Perron in order for Jarry's name to be involved. Goalie is about the only position where the Penguins are in good shape both short term and long term, I'd hate to see that change, especially considering that Jarry's stock is higher now than when he was drafted.

Giving up Yandle for Perron + isn't that big of a loss for Edmonton. Perron is a ufa when Yandle is. Yandle also may like it there because he will be one of the go to guys where as in AZ he isnt that guy anymore. Johnson still definitely has some life in him and would be looked at as more of a 2nd pairing guy. I said before ROR could work, but only if he was resigned prior to being traded.
- drummer829

True, but its that "+" that would be the bulk of the deal. Assuming Edm doesn't want to move its 1st rounder, what would they have that the Coyotes would be interested in? Yakupov? Ebere? Those seem to be overpayments for Yandle, but what else is there as Perron is too little?