Do the Pens need a superstar winger, I would agree they don't but what they do need is an impact, someone you notice when they are on the ice.

If we are trading with Edmonton, I think there is a real possibility that we can convince them to make the mistake of trading us Yakupov. I know a lot of people don't think he is very special or attach the lazy Russian stereotype to him, but I think those people don't watch many Oilers games. He has worked very hard on his defensive game because it what the coach asked of him, he puts in an effort every shift, he's in the scrums and sticks up for his teammates.

I've said it before but now that we have extra cap due to Dupuis' injury Byfuglien can be had from Winnipeg. He is exactly the type of impact player is like to see the pens get. And if anyone remembers his time with Chicago the bigger the game the bigger he plays. Byfuglien Malkin Comeau would be a devastating line to play against.

Also I wouldn't trade Sutter, he has been out best player most nights.
- stackthepads

I would love yak, I too have watched a few games and the kid can play and I feel e would flourish here, toss him on genos line with either horn or comeau. Buff would be nice to have, but I'm not sure we could get him without giving up too much. If martin is one of your assets to trade, I'm not sure he would waive to go either to EDM or WPG anyway. Anyway I'd rather see yak in a pens sweater, young winger who can play top 6. Make it happen JR

He has looked BETTER this year but he is too slow and still treats the puck like a live grenade , do SOMETHING other than pass it D to D !
- Bradlee3

Well that's a component of the new system, it is now an option opposed to option A-Stretch pass B- Stretch pass C-Z Stretch pass. With more options now Scuds is going to look worlds better. He was never fast, but he makes smart hockey plays and if that's getting the puck to a younger more offensively gifted D man to tote the puck I say way to go HCMJ in getting the most out of your club.

3-2-15-68

Well that's a component of the new system, it is now an option opposed to option A-Stretch pass B- Stretch pass C-Z Stretch pass. With more options now Scuds is going to look worlds better. He was never fast, but he makes smart hockey plays and if that's getting the puck to a younger more offensively gifted D man to tote the puck I say way to go HCMJ in getting the most out of your club.

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- nbartley9

I got it. -82.

He definitely deserves a shot more than sill. If megna does play tonight, he will get a point. Book it!
- drummer829

Sill is only getting 5 mins a night because that line is being dominated. If HCMJ isn't comfortable letting him have more TOI, he's worthless. Megna should be able to do better.

I got it. -82.
- jmatchett383

Ah, wouldn't it be 83? Which would have to make it Domenic Pittis.

Side note on that, if in the fortunate position to pick your own number for an NHL club do you go with your childhood number or something off the cuff? Cant recall any wearing 69.

Edit: F math. Didn't account for the positive 3.

It seems that wilson is set on perron. i dont even think we have a shot at him beings they are asking for a center in return. pretty sure they wont take sutter and im not sure we want to give up sutter at this point.

so who else is a target. o'reily from colorado? how bout someone from the stars, sharks, who else is stinkin right now? oilers?

I threw out my ideal trades yesterday, good old hockey trades for young solid players.

Sutter for Perron
Despres for Kassian

Then
Dumo+2nd for Vermette, Cogliano, etc to fill the void of Sutter if needed.


Also, still ok if we could work a trade based around Dumoulin + mid round pick for equivalent forward prospects......Rattie, Jurco, Ritchie, etc.

Lastly, I think the Pens could use someone that becomes a heart and soul player. I know intangibles are overrated at times and Hornqvist is close to becoming that player. But a fan favorite who gives 110% every night would be huge for this team. Need a jolt of energy and passion against theheavy weight teams. Still think we get thrown off our game too easily when the opposing team is giving full effort.

I would love yak, I too have watched a few games and the kid can play and I feel e would flourish here, toss him on genos line with either horn or comeau. Buff would be nice to have, but I'm not sure we could get him without giving up too much. If martin is one of your assets to trade, I'm not sure he would waive to go either to EDM or WPG anyway. Anyway I'd rather see yak in a pens sweater, young winger who can play top 6. Make it happen JR
- znagle

Martin will not waive to EDM, they would have to make him the highest paid Dman in the NHL to resign there even if he did. Not happening.

It seems that wilson is set on perron. i dont even think we have a shot at him beings they are asking for a center in return. pretty sure they wont take sutter and im not sure we want to give up sutter at this point.

so who else is a target. o'reily from colorado? how bout someone from the stars, sharks, who else is stinkin right now? oilers?


- pensfan024

I don't understand why they are so set on a top center right now. You have one at your fingertips with mcdavid. What they need to do is build a legitimate defense first. Use Perron and/or yaks to land a solid defenseman. Wait until the draft, if you don't get the 1st overall pick, then dangle that 2nd, 3rd, or 4th overall pick as trade bait for a top center. That would be 10 x's more valuable than Perron or yakupov.

Martin will not waive to EDM, they would have to make him the highest paid Dman in the NHL to resign there even if he did. Not happening.
- sammy87

I just can't imagine that conversation.

JR: hey Martin, would you mind signing this saying you accept a trade to Minnesota?
Martin: my hometown? Yea I would love to play there.
(Trade happens)
JR: oh by the way, when I said Minnesota I meant Edmonton. Have fun there buddy!

Yeah I would have to begrudgingly agree, I was excited for Sill to get his shot and he shat all over himself. I would have just liked to have seen another rough and tumble guy come up from WBS. This is a pretty big physical team we are playing tonight and Megna just doesn't seem to relish in those types of situations. I hope I am wrong.




Also "F Sutter" has been retired, I know its hard to accept but he doesn't deserve to be bashed by me anymore.


"there is another"
- nbartley9

My God...it has happened

I don't understand why they are so set on a top center right now. You have one at your fingertips with mcdavid. What they need to do is build a legitimate defense first. Use Perron and/or yaks to land a solid defenseman. Wait until the draft, if you don't get the 1st overall pick, then dangle that 2nd, 3rd, or 4th overall pick as trade bait for a top center. That would be 10 x's more valuable than Perron or yakupov.
- drummer829

Perron recently trashed the team/culture & supposedly wants out. Can't say I blame him. The culture is already thought to be toxic in edmonton & keeping him around long term will just make it worse. Perron is also older than the core of Hall/Eberle/Nuget-Hopkins & not essential to their future.

As for all the rest, its just fans who think Yakupov is up for grabs for a mid-tier prospect and a 3rd rounder. I haven't seen any evidence that Edmonton is willing to move him for anthing less than equal value (ie, young, elite talent for young, elite talent).

Lastly, Edmonton isn't really able to attract top-tier UFA's. If you can name a legit 1C who is signed long term without a NTC who could be had for a 2nd-4th overall, I'd love to hear who it is. I struggle to think of many names who wouldn't play out the last 1-2 yrs of their deal & bolt Edmonton.

So Sid between Spaling and Hornqvist and Malkin between Kunitz and Comeau. Complete wing swap, interesting.

So Sid between Spaling and Hornqvist and Malkin between Kunitz and Comeau. Complete wing swap, interesting.
- madmike71

I thought something like this might be coming.

Crosby & Hornqvist lit it up.

Malkin & Kunitz have played well together in the past. Comeau was solid w/ Geno as well.

Spaling is out of place, but its only 20gms into an 82 game season.

Also, I'm in favor of Benntt & Sutter remaining together. If Downie can cut down on the penalties, the 3rd line of Bennett-Sutter-Downie could be really solid.

Perron recently trashed the team/culture & supposedly wants out. Can't say I blame him. The culture is already thought to be toxic in edmonton & keeping him around long term will just make it worse. Perron is also older than the core of Hall/Eberle/Nuget-Hopkins & not essential to their future.

As for all the rest, its just fans who think Yakupov is up for grabs for a mid-tier prospect and a 3rd rounder. I haven't seen any evidence that Edmonton is willing to move him for anthing less than equal value (ie, young, elite talent for young, elite talent).

Lastly, Edmonton isn't really able to attract top-tier UFA's. If you can name a legit 1C who is signed long term without a NTC who could be had for a 2nd-4th overall, I'd love to hear who it is. I struggle to think of many names who wouldn't play out the last 1-2 yrs of their deal & bolt Edmonton.
- s0rcerer1984

Which is why they should look for defense now and save that pick and hope to bob they can draft mcdavid.

I'm sure Zherdev is crashing around Russia waiting for a call. Or what about Radulov? Nobody's wasted their time on him lately, have they?

Martin will not waive to EDM, they would have to make him the highest paid Dman in the NHL to resign there even if he did. Not happening.
- sammy87

That's what I'm saying, no way he'd leave a cup contender on his last year with them with a good chance he won't be back to go to a continuous bottom feeder. Only way is that they resign him instantly for a fat contract, or he goes there in free agency, for a even fatter deal

I would love yak, I too have watched a few games and the kid can play and I feel e would flourish here, toss him on genos line with either horn or comeau. Buff would be nice to have, but I'm not sure we could get him without giving up too much. If martin is one of your assets to trade, I'm not sure he would waive to go either to EDM or WPG anyway. Anyway I'd rather see yak in a pens sweater, young winger who can play top 6. Make it happen JR
- znagle

I don't think Buff would cost that much, he isn't a key part of the Jets future he has one more year there then he's a free agent and won't resign. Martin certainly would not go there but I wasn't counting on that, I think one of our d prospects probably Despres and a pick would get it done.

Trading for Yak would start with Pouliot likely. They desperately need a PP quarter back, Schultz has not been able to fill that job and they don't have anyone in their system that is anywhere near Pouliot in that regard. Pouliot + 1st for Yak + 2nd?

Yeah I would have to begrudgingly agree, I was excited for Sill to get his shot and he shat all over himself. I would have just liked to have seen another rough and tumble guy come up from WBS. This is a pretty big physical team we are playing tonight and Megna just doesn't seem to relish in those types of situations. I hope I am wrong.




Also "F Sutter" has been retired, I know its hard to accept but he doesn't deserve to be bashed by me anymore.


"there is another"
- nbartley9

Is that a reference to a certain south park episode set in Nippopolis?

I don't think Buff would cost that much, he isn't a key part of the Jets future he has one more year there then he's a free agent and won't resign. Martin certainly would not go there but I wasn't counting on that, I think one of our d prospects probably Despres and a pick would get it done.

Trading for Yak would start with Pouliot likely. They desperately need a PP quarter back, Schultz has not been able to fill that job and they don't have anyone in their system that is anywhere near Pouliot in that regard. Pouliot + 1st for Yak + 2nd?
- stackthepads

I'm against trading Pouliot, I feel he's going to be a letang clone. But that deal would be hard to turn down. Buff would only cost so much because he is a one of a kind player, no one else in the league is like him and he's pretty damn good at what he does, except burns but he's back on d. I would love buff, but I don't think despres and a pick could do it. Buff is a top guy and despres is a bottom pairing dman

I thought something like this might be coming.

Crosby & Hornqvist lit it up.

Malkin & Kunitz have played well together in the past. Comeau was solid w/ Geno as well.

Spaling is out of place, but its only 20gms into an 82 game season.

Also, I'm in favor of Benntt & Sutter remaining together. If Downie can cut down on the penalties, the 3rd line of Bennett-Sutter-Downie could be really solid.
- s0rcerer1984

These are intriguing changes. Really wanted Hornqvist back with Sid.

Which is why they should look for defense now and save that pick and hope to bob they can draft mcdavid.
- drummer829

What Top-2 or Top-4 Dman are available, signed long-term & without a NTC? Yakupov might land you one (if you can think of one, as I can't), but Perron certainly won't.

Overall, I'm not disagreeing with you; If I was playing NHL15 I'd do the same thing. But, in real life, how long can you just keep up finishing last season after season?

The Penguins were just as bad & only had 5 seasons (counting the lockout) of not making the Playoffs. Turned it around before the end of Crosby's ELC. Oilers are going on 8 seasons of futility w/ no end in sight. Finished last or second to last in the division every year w/ the exception of the lock-out season, where they finished 3rd.

Patience is good, but you have to change something when its this bad for this long.

Is that a reference to a certain south park episode set in Nippopolis?
- Rawdog9755

Ha no it was actually a Yoda quote.

In my world of make-believe, this is the team I want.

Kane-Sid-Jags
Kuni-Geno-Horny
Downie-Goc-Bennett
Comeau-Spaling-Adams

3-2-15-68

It needs to be:

Bennett Crosby Hornqvist
Kunitz Malkin Comeau
Spalling Sutter Megna
Downie Goc Adams

With downie and Goc being swappable. But if you're going to call him up you might as well give him a chance rather than bury him in the fourth on his first game of the season.

Serious question, has Dupuis even officially been put on LTIR yet? I haven't read anything about it. That significantly impacts if/when we would want to make a move.