kfinl170
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Location: NJ Joined: 07.05.2010
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Through this out there yesterday, what about a guy like Alex Tanguay. 1 more year at 3.5, good veteran pressence, and plays a solid top 6 two way game. Just a name that proabably will not cost too much. |
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Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Former Orpik44 Joined: 02.22.2013
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Ideally You DON'T trade Sutter or Despres.
A trade for Perron or Kassian they'd ask for them so NO DEAL.
Think about guys that wouldn't take this much:
Tlusty, Ward, Brower, Fleischmann, Jokinen, Stafford, Stewart and Smith-Pelley.
Personally I think we need to add a couple wingers: a TOUGH ONE and a sniper. |
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s0rcerer1984
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Location: United States, VA Joined: 07.03.2008
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I thought both teams would be looking for d help but reports are Edmonton wants a top center for Perron as dumb as that sounds. From the av's standpoint thats a no brainer right? RoR has been a pain in the ass and likely doesn't resign. They get 2 good wings and cap relief. At least I think they get relief I'm to lazy to look it up - dbell646
To me, it would be a total no-brainer for Colorado.
But for Edmonton, I think they would have to have some serious concerns about re-signing ROR. He has 1 more year at $6M/yr & after that, given his actions so far, I'm willing to bet he chases the money right of Edmonton.
Edm, given its reputation for forsty weather & lack of city life, has trouble attracting UFA's. Can't think of many top-quality UFA's the Oilers have attracted, but can think of several players they have drafted & signed into their UFA years. That is where a ROR for Perron & Yakupov trade would hurt; losing 4.5 yrs of Yakupov. |
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1st and Pouliot would be the starting point.......
Arizona doesn't need young defensemen anyway. - cap1681
How so? Besides gormeley they don't have much, ESPECIALLY if they trade Yandle and lose Michalek. They could use a defensive prospect with top 4 potential |
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cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Verona, PA Joined: 02.04.2010
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Through this out there yesterday, what about a guy like Alex Tanguay. 1 more year at 3.5, good veteran pressence, and plays a solid top 6 two way game. Just a name that proabably will not cost too much. - kfinl170
He's out indefinitely after taking an Ovechkin slap shot to the face Thursday night. |
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kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: NJ Joined: 07.05.2010
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He's out indefinitely after taking an Ovechkin slap shot to the face Thursday night. - cap1681
Oof, didn't see that |
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Barnaby36
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Location: Former Orpik44 Joined: 02.22.2013
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I'm ok with Brower and Fleischmann coming to PITT. |
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cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Verona, PA Joined: 02.04.2010
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How so? Besides gormeley they don't have much, ESPECIALLY if they trade Yandle and lose Michalek. They could use a defensive prospect with top 4 potential - drummer829
OEL, Murphy, Stone, and Gormley are all under 25 and are all either already top 4, or have top 4 potential. On the other side, they are in the bottom 5 in goals scored for in the NHL right now. They will be looking to acquire scoring if they are shipping one of their top scorers. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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How so? Besides gormeley they don't have much, ESPECIALLY if they trade Yandle and lose Michalek. They could use a defensive prospect with top 4 potential - drummer829
Well, right now, they DO have all 3 of Gormley, Yandle, and Michalek. They have a bona fide elite defense in OEL, and that gives them a pretty damn good top 4 to build on. The rest of their defenders are all capable top-6 defensemen, if not better.
But when your leading scorer is one of those defensemen, and your top-scoring forward ranks 66th in the league and is tied with guys like Leo Komarov and Carl Soderberg, your problems lie on the offensive side of the puck. |
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dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 04.13.2009
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To me, it would be a total no-brainer for Colorado.
But for Edmonton, I think they would have to have some serious concerns about re-signing ROR. He has 1 more year at $6M/yr & after that, given his actions so far, I'm willing to bet he chases the money right of Edmonton.
Edm, given its reputation for forsty weather & lack of city life, has trouble attracting UFA's. Can't think of many top-quality UFA's the Oilers have attracted, but can think of several players they have drafted & signed into their UFA years. That is where a ROR for Perron & Yakupov trade would hurt; losing 4.5 yrs of Yakupov. - s0rcerer1984
Yea I get the Av's point of view but I'd stay away if I were Edmonton too. With McDavid and Eichel out there I think I'd ship out Perron for sure. |
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HopintheCordoba
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Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD Joined: 04.04.2012
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RIP Pat Quinn.
I'm all for out of the box ideas at this point. There are probably more options than we might even be thinking of. I've said it before, but one kid I really like is Silfverberg. There are a few others but he's on my list. |
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Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB Joined: 04.07.2010
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A trade for Perron or Kassian they'd ask for them so NO DEAL.
- Barnaby36
I think you have to watch more Canuck games. Kassian is basically Downie but fights less. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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To me, it would be a total no-brainer for Colorado.
But for Edmonton, I think they would have to have some serious concerns about re-signing ROR. He has 1 more year at $6M/yr & after that, given his actions so far, I'm willing to bet he chases the money right of Edmonton.
Edm, given its reputation for forsty weather & lack of city life, has trouble attracting UFA's. Can't think of many top-quality UFA's the Oilers have attracted, but can think of several players they have drafted & signed into their UFA years. That is where a ROR for Perron & Yakupov trade would hurt; losing 4.5 yrs of Yakupov. - s0rcerer1984
If they're in serious trade talks, they could trade him with a handshake deal in place for a long-term extension (and, if all 3 parties are involved, make part of the trade contingent on an extension). |
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HopintheCordoba
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Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD Joined: 04.04.2012
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Well, right now, they DO have all 3 of Gormley, Yandle, and Michalek. They have a bona fide elite defense in OEL, and that gives them a pretty damn good top 4 to build on. The rest of their defenders are all capable top-6 defensemen, if not better.
But when your leading scorer is one of those defensemen, and your top-scoring forward ranks 66th in the league and is tied with guys like Leo Komarov and Carl Soderberg, your problems lie on the offensive side of the puck. - jmatchett383
Which is why I keep telling people, Boedker is going nowhere. Not unless you can provide them with something that is going to produce. He's a growing player and they believe in him. It's a no-go. |
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cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Verona, PA Joined: 02.04.2010
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Lines at morning skate:
Spaling-Crosby-Hornqvist
Comeau-Malkin-Kunitz |
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HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD Joined: 04.04.2012
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Ideally You DON'T trade Sutter or Despres.
A trade for Perron or Kassian they'd ask for them so NO DEAL.
Think about guys that wouldn't take this much:
Tlusty, Ward, Brower, Fleischmann, Jokinen, Stafford, Stewart and Smith-Pelley.
Personally I think we need to add a couple wingers: a TOUGH ONE and a sniper. - Barnaby36
Both of them will be premium prices now unless Buffalo is padding it's chances this summer. I don't see them just throwing away assets. They've been many things but stupid with chips is not one of them. |
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HopintheCordoba
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Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD Joined: 04.04.2012
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Lines at morning skate:
Spaling-Crosby-Hornqvist
Comeau-Malkin-Kunitz - cap1681
FFS
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Which is why I keep telling people, Boedker is going nowhere. Not unless you can provide them with something that is going to produce. He's a growing player and they believe in him. It's a no-go. - HopintheCordoba
Absolutely. If you want him, you'll need to pony up a young roster player(s) and top-end prospects(s)/high-end picks. |
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s0rcerer1984
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: United States, VA Joined: 07.03.2008
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If they're in serious trade talks, they could trade him with a handshake deal in place for a long-term extension (and, if all 3 parties are involved, make part of the trade contingent on an extension). - jmatchett383
If I'm Edmonton, there is no way I'd accept a 'hand-shake deal' to agree to an extension in the future. So many ways that could fall apart its crazy. Plus, ROR reputation makes me think it is unlikely that is the kind of thing he would be interested in to begin with.
Also, didn't Edm get burned by some player agreeing to sign in Edm & then turning around to sign w/ the Caps a few years back? |
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Conse
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Rio de Janeiro Joined: 11.27.2013
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FFS
- HopintheCordoba
Comeau didn't look too out of place with Malkin. But definitely a bust with Sid.
I approve Kuni with Malkin, but spaling getting a bump to the first line must be an attempt to raise his value hahahha
Also, no Megna. Guy racks up a lot of points and sits for Sill... |
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Well, right now, they DO have all 3 of Gormley, Yandle, and Michalek. They have a bona fide elite defense in OEL, and that gives them a pretty damn good top 4 to build on. The rest of their defenders are all capable top-6 defensemen, if not better.
But when your leading scorer is one of those defensemen, and your top-scoring forward ranks 66th in the league and is tied with guys like Leo Komarov and Carl Soderberg, your problems lie on the offensive side of the puck. - jmatchett383
And how are you supposed to get those top scorers without trading a guy like Yandle and/or gormeley |
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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If I'm Edmonton, there is no way I'd accept a 'hand-shake deal' to agree to an extension in the future. So many ways that could fall apart its crazy. Plus, ROR reputation makes me think it is unlikely that is the kind of thing he would be interested in to begin with.
Also, didn't Edm get burned by some player agreeing to sign in Edm & then turning around to sign w/ the Caps a few years back? - s0rcerer1984
I don't remember that specifically. I know they had some shady dealings with LA where injured players were getting traded back and forth. But, okay, have RoR sign the extension with Colorado to Edmonton's terms (NTC exemption to Edmonton if he wants a NTC) and then trade him. |
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HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD Joined: 04.04.2012
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Absolutely. If you want him, you'll need to pony up a young roster player(s) and top-end prospects(s)/high-end picks. - jmatchett383
I like him a lot. I think going that route is smart. Young, fast and skilled. Who wouldn't want to do that? But as far as PHX need, you hit it on the head. Penguins need to look elsewhere. At this point, if they're looking to make something happen in a relatively short period of time, then they probably are looking at more known quantities that are undervalued. I don't see Rutherford throwing away Pouliot or Harrington easily. |
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sammy87
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Location: CO Joined: 05.05.2011
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What's wrong with moving the 1st for a young F that is ready to contribute?
If the Pens keep and use their first, that player will not be doing anything to help for 2-3 yrs min. Next year they could have Kap and someone like Boedker for example along with PH all in the top 6. If BB continues to progress, he could be a top 6 as well. Something to think about. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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And how are you supposed to get those top scorers without trading a guy like Yandle and/or gormeley - drummer829
Draft them. Isn't that how Pittsburgh got 2 of the best players in the world? |
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