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kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Nov 24 @ 11:21 AM ET
Through this out there yesterday, what about a guy like Alex Tanguay. 1 more year at 3.5, good veteran pressence, and plays a solid top 6 two way game. Just a name that proabably will not cost too much.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Nov 24 @ 11:22 AM ET
Ideally You DON'T trade Sutter or Despres.

A trade for Perron or Kassian they'd ask for them so NO DEAL.

Think about guys that wouldn't take this much:

Tlusty, Ward, Brower, Fleischmann, Jokinen, Stafford, Stewart and Smith-Pelley.

Personally I think we need to add a couple wingers: a TOUGH ONE and a sniper.
s0rcerer1984
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, VA
Joined: 07.03.2008

Nov 24 @ 11:24 AM ET
I thought both teams would be looking for d help but reports are Edmonton wants a top center for Perron as dumb as that sounds. From the av's standpoint thats a no brainer right? RoR has been a pain in the ass and likely doesn't resign. They get 2 good wings and cap relief. At least I think they get relief I'm to lazy to look it up
- dbell646


To me, it would be a total no-brainer for Colorado.

But for Edmonton, I think they would have to have some serious concerns about re-signing ROR. He has 1 more year at $6M/yr & after that, given his actions so far, I'm willing to bet he chases the money right of Edmonton.

Edm, given its reputation for forsty weather & lack of city life, has trouble attracting UFA's. Can't think of many top-quality UFA's the Oilers have attracted, but can think of several players they have drafted & signed into their UFA years. That is where a ROR for Perron & Yakupov trade would hurt; losing 4.5 yrs of Yakupov.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Nov 24 @ 11:25 AM ET
1st and Pouliot would be the starting point.......

Arizona doesn't need young defensemen anyway.

- cap1681


How so? Besides gormeley they don't have much, ESPECIALLY if they trade Yandle and lose Michalek. They could use a defensive prospect with top 4 potential
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Nov 24 @ 11:26 AM ET
Through this out there yesterday, what about a guy like Alex Tanguay. 1 more year at 3.5, good veteran pressence, and plays a solid top 6 two way game. Just a name that proabably will not cost too much.
- kfinl170


He's out indefinitely after taking an Ovechkin slap shot to the face Thursday night.
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Nov 24 @ 11:29 AM ET
He's out indefinitely after taking an Ovechkin slap shot to the face Thursday night.
- cap1681


Oof, didn't see that
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Nov 24 @ 11:31 AM ET
I'm ok with Brower and Fleischmann coming to PITT.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Nov 24 @ 11:33 AM ET
How so? Besides gormeley they don't have much, ESPECIALLY if they trade Yandle and lose Michalek. They could use a defensive prospect with top 4 potential
- drummer829


OEL, Murphy, Stone, and Gormley are all under 25 and are all either already top 4, or have top 4 potential. On the other side, they are in the bottom 5 in goals scored for in the NHL right now. They will be looking to acquire scoring if they are shipping one of their top scorers.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 24 @ 11:33 AM ET
How so? Besides gormeley they don't have much, ESPECIALLY if they trade Yandle and lose Michalek. They could use a defensive prospect with top 4 potential
- drummer829


Well, right now, they DO have all 3 of Gormley, Yandle, and Michalek. They have a bona fide elite defense in OEL, and that gives them a pretty damn good top 4 to build on. The rest of their defenders are all capable top-6 defensemen, if not better.

But when your leading scorer is one of those defensemen, and your top-scoring forward ranks 66th in the league and is tied with guys like Leo Komarov and Carl Soderberg, your problems lie on the offensive side of the puck.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Nov 24 @ 11:33 AM ET
To me, it would be a total no-brainer for Colorado.

But for Edmonton, I think they would have to have some serious concerns about re-signing ROR. He has 1 more year at $6M/yr & after that, given his actions so far, I'm willing to bet he chases the money right of Edmonton.

Edm, given its reputation for forsty weather & lack of city life, has trouble attracting UFA's. Can't think of many top-quality UFA's the Oilers have attracted, but can think of several players they have drafted & signed into their UFA years. That is where a ROR for Perron & Yakupov trade would hurt; losing 4.5 yrs of Yakupov.

- s0rcerer1984

Yea I get the Av's point of view but I'd stay away if I were Edmonton too. With McDavid and Eichel out there I think I'd ship out Perron for sure.
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Nov 24 @ 11:35 AM ET
RIP Pat Quinn.

I'm all for out of the box ideas at this point. There are probably more options than we might even be thinking of. I've said it before, but one kid I really like is Silfverberg. There are a few others but he's on my list.
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

Nov 24 @ 11:36 AM ET


A trade for Perron or Kassian they'd ask for them so NO DEAL.


- Barnaby36



I think you have to watch more Canuck games. Kassian is basically Downie but fights less.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 24 @ 11:36 AM ET
To me, it would be a total no-brainer for Colorado.

But for Edmonton, I think they would have to have some serious concerns about re-signing ROR. He has 1 more year at $6M/yr & after that, given his actions so far, I'm willing to bet he chases the money right of Edmonton.

Edm, given its reputation for forsty weather & lack of city life, has trouble attracting UFA's. Can't think of many top-quality UFA's the Oilers have attracted, but can think of several players they have drafted & signed into their UFA years. That is where a ROR for Perron & Yakupov trade would hurt; losing 4.5 yrs of Yakupov.

- s0rcerer1984


If they're in serious trade talks, they could trade him with a handshake deal in place for a long-term extension (and, if all 3 parties are involved, make part of the trade contingent on an extension).
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Nov 24 @ 11:37 AM ET
Well, right now, they DO have all 3 of Gormley, Yandle, and Michalek. They have a bona fide elite defense in OEL, and that gives them a pretty damn good top 4 to build on. The rest of their defenders are all capable top-6 defensemen, if not better.

But when your leading scorer is one of those defensemen, and your top-scoring forward ranks 66th in the league and is tied with guys like Leo Komarov and Carl Soderberg, your problems lie on the offensive side of the puck.

- jmatchett383


Which is why I keep telling people, Boedker is going nowhere. Not unless you can provide them with something that is going to produce. He's a growing player and they believe in him. It's a no-go.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Nov 24 @ 11:38 AM ET
Lines at morning skate:

Spaling-Crosby-Hornqvist
Comeau-Malkin-Kunitz
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Nov 24 @ 11:39 AM ET
Ideally You DON'T trade Sutter or Despres.

A trade for Perron or Kassian they'd ask for them so NO DEAL.

Think about guys that wouldn't take this much:

Tlusty, Ward, Brower, Fleischmann, Jokinen, Stafford, Stewart and Smith-Pelley.

Personally I think we need to add a couple wingers: a TOUGH ONE and a sniper.

- Barnaby36


Both of them will be premium prices now unless Buffalo is padding it's chances this summer. I don't see them just throwing away assets. They've been many things but stupid with chips is not one of them.
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Nov 24 @ 11:39 AM ET
Lines at morning skate:

Spaling-Crosby-Hornqvist
Comeau-Malkin-Kunitz

- cap1681


FFS
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 24 @ 11:41 AM ET
Which is why I keep telling people, Boedker is going nowhere. Not unless you can provide them with something that is going to produce. He's a growing player and they believe in him. It's a no-go.
- HopintheCordoba


Absolutely. If you want him, you'll need to pony up a young roster player(s) and top-end prospects(s)/high-end picks.
s0rcerer1984
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, VA
Joined: 07.03.2008

Nov 24 @ 11:46 AM ET
If they're in serious trade talks, they could trade him with a handshake deal in place for a long-term extension (and, if all 3 parties are involved, make part of the trade contingent on an extension).
- jmatchett383


If I'm Edmonton, there is no way I'd accept a 'hand-shake deal' to agree to an extension in the future. So many ways that could fall apart its crazy. Plus, ROR reputation makes me think it is unlikely that is the kind of thing he would be interested in to begin with.

Also, didn't Edm get burned by some player agreeing to sign in Edm & then turning around to sign w/ the Caps a few years back?
Conse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rio de Janeiro
Joined: 11.27.2013

Nov 24 @ 11:46 AM ET
FFS

- HopintheCordoba


Comeau didn't look too out of place with Malkin. But definitely a bust with Sid.
I approve Kuni with Malkin, but spaling getting a bump to the first line must be an attempt to raise his value hahahha

Also, no Megna. Guy racks up a lot of points and sits for Sill...
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Nov 24 @ 11:47 AM ET
Well, right now, they DO have all 3 of Gormley, Yandle, and Michalek. They have a bona fide elite defense in OEL, and that gives them a pretty damn good top 4 to build on. The rest of their defenders are all capable top-6 defensemen, if not better.

But when your leading scorer is one of those defensemen, and your top-scoring forward ranks 66th in the league and is tied with guys like Leo Komarov and Carl Soderberg, your problems lie on the offensive side of the puck.

- jmatchett383


And how are you supposed to get those top scorers without trading a guy like Yandle and/or gormeley
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 24 @ 11:48 AM ET
If I'm Edmonton, there is no way I'd accept a 'hand-shake deal' to agree to an extension in the future. So many ways that could fall apart its crazy. Plus, ROR reputation makes me think it is unlikely that is the kind of thing he would be interested in to begin with.

Also, didn't Edm get burned by some player agreeing to sign in Edm & then turning around to sign w/ the Caps a few years back?

- s0rcerer1984


I don't remember that specifically. I know they had some shady dealings with LA where injured players were getting traded back and forth. But, okay, have RoR sign the extension with Colorado to Edmonton's terms (NTC exemption to Edmonton if he wants a NTC) and then trade him.
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Nov 24 @ 11:48 AM ET
Absolutely. If you want him, you'll need to pony up a young roster player(s) and top-end prospects(s)/high-end picks.
- jmatchett383


I like him a lot. I think going that route is smart. Young, fast and skilled. Who wouldn't want to do that? But as far as PHX need, you hit it on the head. Penguins need to look elsewhere. At this point, if they're looking to make something happen in a relatively short period of time, then they probably are looking at more known quantities that are undervalued. I don't see Rutherford throwing away Pouliot or Harrington easily.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 24 @ 11:49 AM ET
What's wrong with moving the 1st for a young F that is ready to contribute?

If the Pens keep and use their first, that player will not be doing anything to help for 2-3 yrs min. Next year they could have Kap and someone like Boedker for example along with PH all in the top 6. If BB continues to progress, he could be a top 6 as well. Something to think about.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 24 @ 11:49 AM ET
And how are you supposed to get those top scorers without trading a guy like Yandle and/or gormeley
- drummer829


Draft them. Isn't that how Pittsburgh got 2 of the best players in the world?
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