I think the expectations of the oilers was unjustified... They had the top end skill but lacked the solid goaltending, defensive responsibility, and grit. But I think they just had the bad luck in their forwards being ready before their defense. If they had been able have guys like nurse and marincin ahead of RNH and yak etc than things might not be so bleak.
I do think that they had very little choice in drafting up until yak ...and he was the majority favorite at 1 ...its easy to look back and say why didn't they draft player X instead

I like your panthers leafs theory

I think the flames could learn from that too
- Redmile247

I hope we trade for Myers . We can't lose our top Dman and pick up a number 6 guy.
The season will slip by fast if we do. We need a young stud to carry us for the next few years. Buffalo WPG or PHX make the most sense.

I hope we trade for Myers . We can't lose our top Dman and pick up a number 6 guy.
The season will slip by fast if we do. We need a young stud to carry us for the next few years. Buffalo WPG or PHX make the most sense.
- VANTEL

Buffalo does have a lot of young d so they could be a possibility

Who would you target from the jets

Buffalo does have a lot of young d so they could be a possibility

Who would you target from the jets
- Redmile247

I think because the Jets are having a decent year it would need to be someone they are looking to trade and that leads you to Byfuglien


Hansen Jensen Lack .

I think the expectations of the oilers was unjustified... They had the top end skill but lacked the solid goaltending, defensive responsibility, and grit. But I think they just had the bad luck in their forwards being ready before their defense. If they had been able have guys like nurse and marincin ahead of RNH and yak etc than things might not be so bleak.
I do think that they had very little choice in drafting up until yak ...and he was the majority favorite at 1 ...its easy to look back and say why didn't they draft player X instead

I like your panthers leafs theory

I think the flames could learn from that too
- Redmile247

I think the Oilers have simply been mismanaged, they picked poorly because of it, end of story. Do they have some great young talent, for sure, but they should be starting to trend up...except they're not.

There are a bunch of examples of this but I'll use Ottawa as mine. They came into the league in 92/93;

drafted 2nd overall in 92
1st overall in 93
3rd overall in 94
1st overall in 95
1st overall in 96

Then they started to improve, drafting 12th overall in 97 (Marion Hossa), making the playoffs that year. The following year they drafted 15th overall and made the second round of the playoffs.

By 1999 they had a 103 point season and the were on their way, 2003 they went to the Conferene finals. They drafted well, they made some good trades and they "BUILT" a team.

Man do I ever want to see McCann and Virtanen play together.

Looked like an Achilles injury
- RoloTahmasee

I think its an ACL

Canucks Army says it's the knee, and that is what it looked like to me. Froward motion of the leg stopped suddenly does a lot of damage to the knee. I did it once playing soccer I went to kick the ball and a player put his foot on the ball to stop it. Insane pain.

https://twitter.com/canuc...status/536222208960376832
- VANTEL

Exactly, I had the same thing playing Rugby and it was my ACL.

I hope we trade for Myers . We can't lose our top Dman and pick up a number 6 guy.
The season will slip by fast if we do. We need a young stud to carry us for the next few years. Buffalo WPG or PHX make the most sense.
- VANTEL

Myers would be a nice addition IMO. Can't really shop Hansen or Burrows as I doubt Buffalo would have any interest in either...maybe Hansen if he keeps scoring. Hansen-Lack and maybe JB could dangle Gaunce there or a pick. Doubt Burrows or Hansen would waive to go to Buffalo

If somehow Myers could slot into our top 4 D and JB can magically find a top 9 winger to really compliment Bonino we should HOPEFULLY be competitive down the stretch.

Those two things plus keeping Horvat up.

I think the Oilers have simply been mismanaged, they picked poorly because of it, end of story. Do they have some great young talent, for sure, but they should be starting to trend up...except they're not.

There are a bunch of examples of this but I'll use Ottawa as mine. They came into the league in 92/93;

drafted 2nd overall in 92
1st overall in 93
3rd overall in 94
1st overall in 95
1st overall in 96

Then they started to improve, drafting 12th overall in 97 (Marion Hossa), making the playoffs that year. The following year they drafted 15th overall and made the second round of the playoffs.

By 1999 they had a 103 point season and the were on their way, 2003 they went to the finals. They drafted well, they made some good trades and they "BUILT" a team.
- LeftCoaster

Oilers should at least be where the Islanders are at this year.

Oilers should at least be where the Islanders are at this year.
- VANTEL

Unless you have the proper people in charge, as you know, I'm not in favor of this type of rebuild. Tank nation is not in my blood. The Canucks or any other organization can remain relevant with good drafting and trading.

Myers would be a nice addition IMO. Can't really shop Hansen or Burrows as I doubt Buffalo would have any interest in either...maybe Hansen if he keeps scoring. Hansen-Lack and maybe JB could dangle Gaunce there or a pick. Doubt Burrows or Hansen would waive to go to Buffalo

If somehow Myers could slot into our top 4 D and JB can magically find a top 9 winger to really compliment Bonino we should HOPEFULLY be competitive down the stretch.

Those two things plus keeping Horvat up.
- LordHumungous

Horvat is playing again tomorrow. The way WD played Bo last game , I don't think he is being sent back any time soon.

I am sure it would cost a first rounder plus for Myers. JB has a history with him so that is the one I am targeting.

Canucks would need to add a goalie of either Lack or Markstrom because we know Miller ain't going back there

As for the prospect I would give up Vey Jensen or Shink, or non prospect Mathias

Again getting Myers or a young talented Dman helps for years of growth on a below par farm system on D.

Oilers should at least be where the Islanders are at this year.
- VANTEL

Yeah I think the Oilers should be playing in the East as well.

Unless you have the proper people in charge, as you know, I'm not in favor of this type of rebuild. Tank nation is not in my blood. The Canucks or any other organization can remain relevant with good drafting and trading.
- LeftCoaster

I will finally admit we are too good to be in the McDavid sweeps . I can see us close to the top 10 ,not the bottom 10


But my Daniel prediction for 16 goals still stands

Yeah I think the Oilers should be playing in the East as well.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Islanders are beating teams from the West regularly too

I will finally admit we are too good to be in the McDavid sweeps . I can see us close to the top 10 ,not the bottom 10


But my Daniel prediction for 16 goals still stands
- VANTEL

I don't care how many he scores as long as he remains a PPG player! He's had some beauty setups this year.

Yeah I think the Oilers should be playing in the East as well.
- A_SteamingLombardi

They poorly coached, and they have too many small skilled forwards, everyone but the Oilers can see that. Unless MacT is just not getting anyone to bite on Eberle or Yak for a reasonable return, which may be the case?

I don't care how many he scores as long as he remains a PPG player! He's had some beauty setups this year.
- LeftCoaster

I do care because you just can't have one player scoring goals in your top 6. That will catch up to you.

Horvat is playing again tomorrow. The way WD played Bo last game , I don't think he is being sent back any time soon.

I am sure it would cost a first rounder plus for Myers. JB has a history with him so that is the one I am targeting.

Canucks would need to add a goalie of either Lack or Markstrom because we know Miller ain't going back there

As for the prospect I would give up Vey Jensen or Gaunce, or non prospect Mathias

Again getting Myers or a young talented Dman helps for years of growth on a below par farm system on D.
- VANTEL

Fixed.

Between Horvat, Cassels and McCann i believe Gaunce becomes expendable. He is having a decent start to his pro career, move him while the iron's hot.

Lack, Gaunce, Jensen + 1st and second for Myers might do it?
Is he worth mortgaging the future for as they would definitely ask for a Bo or Virtanen

Fixed.

Between Horvat, Cassels and McCann i believe Gaunce becomes expendable. He is having a decent start to his pro career, move him while the iron's hot.

Lack, Gaunce, Jensen + 1st and second for Myers might do it?
Is he worth mortgaging the future for as they would definitely ask for a Bo or Virtanen
- Whiskey-Tango

I wouldn't throw Bo Jake Cassels or McCan into the offer.

I wouldn't throw Bo Jake Cassels or McCan into the offer.
- VANTEL

Agreed, but even throwing in a ton of draft picks, Lack and a handful of prospects would be risky as we have finally started some progressive drafting. Not having a selection of the first 30 or even 60 draftees could come back to bite us, as we have seen over the last few years

Edit: Shink would also be an untouchable, he seems to be getting his grove back in the A

Wonder if Pittsburgh would be open to move pouliot to bolster their top 6.

I think Burrows would be a good fit in Pitt. Play's a solid two way game and can finish pretty well if played with the right players. Pitt has cap space now that dupuis is out for the year. I think the canucks would have to add to get pouliot, but i'd love to see a deal like that.... but who wouldn't :p

Unless you have the proper people in charge, as you know, I'm not in favor of this type of rebuild. Tank nation is not in my blood. The Canucks or any other organization can remain relevant with good drafting and trading.
- LeftCoaster

If this was the case, maybe you'd dress a real goalie in the Yahoo league


Hi guys

Agreed, but even throwing in a ton of draft picks, Lack and a handful of prospects would be risky as we have finally started some progressive drafting. Not having a selection of the first 30 or even 60 draftees could come back to bite us, as we have seen over the last few years
- Whiskey-Tango

At 24 Myers would be serviceable for more than likely 10 years. I would chance losing a first rounder a goalie and one prospect that may make the team

If this was the case, maybe you'd dress a real goalie in the Yahoo league


Hi guys
- lumlums

I think because the Jets are having a decent year it would need to be someone they are looking to trade and that leads you to Byfuglien


Hansen Jensen Lack .
- VANTEL

I don't know why but I've never been a fan of buff on the back end ...kind of a liability