That chicken could probably beat most these chumps at tick tack tow...
- spitfire187

the mofo has some moves buddy!

he could also beat the oilers in a game of hockey
- Bigern4MVP

Yak would onetime that female dog right on to the grill....

I'd consider it frankly.

We likely aren't re-signing Petry, so Read + a 3rd is a decent enough rental price.

Coburn ~= to Perron.

Unless we have some sudden, new indication that Petry is going to re-sign or you think we could bleed a conditional out of them.
- Morris

I think it helps both teams.

In Coburn you get a solid vet to go with the young prospects coming up on the blueline. he can play all situations.

Read is a two way winger and good on pk.

Flyers get a better winger to play with Couturier and Petry helps our d and maybe we can resign depending on his play.

Really good. Been reeling is some big replies today. I'll drop a line a little deeper & see what kind of bites I receive!!
- newmy

most likely ones proving that you are wrong, dumb, stupid, and that you should shut up and take off.

That's just what I remember happening the last time you showed up in an Oiler's thread. I'm also just foreshadowing.

Since everyone is in this thread now, I'll repost this from earlier:


My problems with last night:

- why are there so many turnovers? Do they not want the puck?
- too many passes
- LD seems so hesitant all of the time and doesn't look aggressive
- Jultz doesn't like to hit the net nor does he have a slapshot
- What did Nikitin do to deserve so much ice time?
- Why are the guys doing so many spins in their own end?
- Does nobody know how to play the body? Stop putting the stick length-wise on the ice to try to stop a pass everytime the Canucks have the puck.
- Seriously, why all the turnovers and odd-man rushes?
- #FreeMarincin
- I get so disgusted watching games I don't even want to have a drink when they play
- Is the gameplay focused around not giving Yakupov the puck?
- We need a 1D so (frank)ing bad.


Positives:
- no jersey's were thrown on the ice
- I still hate Vancouver more than I hate the Oiler's losing.
- I'm still not like Alex_Oil regarding Eakins

most likely ones proving that you are wrong, dumb, stupid, and that you should shut up and take off.

That's just what I remember happening the last time you showed up in an Oiler's thread. I'm also just foreshadowing.
- ChetManly

So jealous!!

Agreed...bit of both.
- LeftCoaster

I know when Eakins came in, he tried to implement a system that reports are was too complicated for them.

I watch a fair amount of Jr. hockey, and it wouldn't surprise me if some of these freak athletes that were bigger and faster there were not actually that well versed in systems play. Maybe that's just a Q thing

And, as much as some of the oiler trolls hate to admit it, Ralph Krueger had them learn a system that inspired this quotation from a Western Conference scout - "I'm not going to give away the store here, but there are no other teams in the league playing the [Edmonton] system".



Given what Eakins said this week (and he may well be covering his ass) about spending the majority of last season's practices at the whiteboard, it could be that they're not exactly off book yet.

All in all, I think it's both player and coach: coach hasn't given them a great script, and the hockey IQ is still developing so they don't have the skills to ad-lib.

You proved me wrong - LMAO!! Yeah just like MacT proved you all wrong by saying he was going to improve the Oilers when in fact they are the same old Oilers if not worse - 3rd worst in the league - again!!!!!!!

Or have you seen a slight improvement?? LOL
- newmy

this is just a whole new level of dumb.

Morris, don't take the bait!

So jealous!!
- newmy

you're jealous I predicted what was going to occur?

this is just a whole new level of dumb.
- ChetManly

Dumb, what the fact that MacT fooled you all into thinking something different was going to happen with the Oilers.

So that makes MacT really stupid - correct??

He hasn't done a damn thing to improve the club & the record proves that once again!!

you're jealous I predicted what was going to occur?
- ChetManly

Hey Chet, have a nice day -

Why not?? Because the Oilers should not have to give up any decent players for acquire decent players??

That's usually the thinking with the worst run organization in the league!!
- newmy

Honestly I just don't think Coburn would improve this team.im one of the few guys that thinks some major trades have to happen,I don't think that deal makes us much better.

Actually, our D prospects are pretty good. I'd say we've got three pretty comfortable projections to top 4 dmen in Nurse, Klefbom and Marincin.

Maybe we could have taken Hamilton 1st overall, but it would have been way off the board and you've really got the benefit of hindsight in making that decision. That still would have left us with a huge need for a centre with the 19th pick. Look back at the 2011 draft, which centre could we have.

Even if Hamilton > Nuge in terms of talent and NHL need (which I contest), and even if we had gone far off the board to pick him there (which I contest that any team would have done without the aid of a time machine), Hamilton + drafting Namestnikov or whomever at 19th does not leave us better off than Nuge + Klefbom.

For 75+% of his career so far, Galchenyuk has been a 3rd line Winger. We're actually teeming with those. He'll undoubtedly progress, and become a solid nautral top 6 centre, but then again, isn't Nuge already on that path?
- Morris

The argument was Galchenyuk or Yak, and who would you rather have? Yak had all sorts of questions about his character and work ethic when he was drafted which proved true. Now this year he is playing better, but at a position thats more easily replaceable then centre. Galchenyuk was the better pick and unfortunately the Oilers duffed it.

Now on to Nuge again. No one outside of Edmonton considers him to be a number 1 centre and his numbers and dreadful defense attest to that. He's healthy this year and bulkier and supposedly worked on his shot, yet this team is on pace to be one of the worst in Oilers history...??? Yes there are more tangibles that go into their futility but defense needed to be addressed during that draft and they chose instead a kid not strong enough to play in the NHL who ended up being oft hurt, and made him their #1 centreman pretty much from the get go!? How's that working out for them... oh yeah it isnt!

this is just a whole new level of dumb.

Morris, don't take the bait!
- ChetManly

I'm actually not particularly appalled by his idea of trading Eberle + the 1st for OEL and a pick. Sounds pretty promising.

I think he's projecting the character of some Oilers fans onto the actions of MacT. Truth is, I don't think someone even so intimately connected to Dreger would have accurate info about what MacT is doing or not doing, trying or not trying to do.

Dumb, what the fact that MacT fooled you all into thinking something different was going to happen with the Oilers.

So that makes MacT really stupid - correct??

He hasn't done a damn thing to improve the club & the record proves that once again!!
- newmy

Honestly I just don't think Coburn would improve this team.im one of the few guys that thinks some major trades have to happen,I don't think that deal makes us much better.
- Jeropotato

just like fayne and nikitin would improve the team, oh and scribbles

Dumb, what the fact that MacT fooled you all into thinking something different was going to happen with the Oilers.

So that makes MacT really stupid - correct??

He hasn't done a damn thing to improve the club & the record proves that once again!!
- newmy

yeah, this just shows you aren't really here to discuss hockey or anything and are simply being a tool.

Go hang out with Dredger some more.

Hey Chet, have a nice day -

- newmy

thanks, It's been a great day so far!

I'm actually not particularly appalled by his idea of trading Eberle + the 1st for OEL and a pick. Sounds pretty promising.

I think he's projecting the character of some Oilers fans onto the actions of MacT. Truth is, I don't think someone even so intimately connected to Dreger would have accurate info about what MacT is doing or not doing, trying or not trying to do.
- Morris

I never said the trade offer wasn't a bad idea. I think it would be fair value in order to get someone like OEL. I merely argued with him that how does he know that Arizona wanted more, or that it was offered by they didn't see it as beneficial to their club.

The argument was Galchenyuk or Yak, and who would you rather have? Yak had all sorts of questions about his character and work ethic when he was drafted which proved true. Now this year he is playing better, but at a position thats more easily replaceable then centre. Galchenyuk was the better pick and unfortunately the Oilers duffed it.

Now on to Nuge again. No one outside of Edmonton considers him to be a number 1 centre and his numbers and dreadful defense attest to that. He's healthy this year and bulkier and supposedly worked on his shot, yet this team is on pace to be one of the worst in Oilers history...??? Yes there are more tangibles that go into their futility but defense needed to be addressed during that draft and they chose instead a kid not strong enough to play in the NHL who ended up being oft hurt, and made him their #1 centreman pretty much from the get go!? How's that working out for them... oh yeah it isnt!
- mnhockeyguy

Hindsight again.

Who's the say that Galchenyuk would've become as solid of a player in Edmonton?

So, rather than be annoying and beat the drum of "you picked the wrong players, Oilers suck hahahhahahaha", why not bring something intelligent to the table?

Yakupov and Galchenyuk are different styled players. They will not progress at the same rate and have two different teams and management systems.

The argument was Galchenyuk or Yak, and who would you rather have? Yak had all sorts of questions about his character and work ethic when he was drafted which proved true. Now this year he is playing better, but at a position thats more easily replaceable then centre. Galchenyuk was the better pick and unfortunately the Oilers duffed it.

Now on to Nuge again. No one outside of Edmonton considers him to be a number 1 centre and his numbers and dreadful defense attest to that. He's healthy this year and bulkier and supposedly worked on his shot, yet this team is on pace to be one of the worst in Oilers history...??? Yes there are more tangibles that go into their futility but defense needed to be addressed during that draft and they chose instead a kid not strong enough to play in the NHL who ended up being oft hurt, and made him their #1 centreman pretty much from the get go!? How's that working out for them... oh yeah it isnt!
- mnhockeyguy

On your first paragraph, you've got most of that wrong. I'd love to see you post a couple scouting reports from 2011 or 2012 that criticized his work ethic and character. But setting that aside, are you contending that the Oilers draft really got de-railed by not picking Galchenyuk? where do you think we'd be right now if we had him?

As far as nuge goes, he's just plain doesn't have dreadful defense. That's absurd. He also leads our team in scoring. So I'm not really going to address those criticisms, especially since you didn't address any of mine.

The argument was Galchenyuk or Yak, and who would you rather have? Yak had all sorts of questions about his character and work ethic when he was drafted which proved true. Now this year he is playing better, but at a position thats more easily replaceable then centre. Galchenyuk was the better pick and unfortunately the Oilers duffed it.

Now on to Nuge again. No one outside of Edmonton considers him to be a number 1 centre and his numbers and dreadful defense attest to that. He's healthy this year and bulkier and supposedly worked on his shot, yet this team is on pace to be one of the worst in Oilers history...??? Yes there are more tangibles that go into their futility but defense needed to be addressed during that draft and they chose instead a kid not strong enough to play in the NHL who ended up being oft hurt, and made him their #1 centreman pretty much from the get go!? How's that working out for them... oh yeah it isnt!
- mnhockeyguy

Hamilton was considered by many to be the top dman in the draft. He went 9th overall which was yes low... but considering the Oilers kept drafting forwards from 07-12 with their first picks while the defense was obviously a glaring need yes that would have been a good call at the time and still would be today.

Hindsight again.

Who's the say that Galchenyuk would've become as solid of a player in Edmonton?

So, rather than be annoying and beat the drum of "you picked the wrong players, Oilers suck hahahhahahaha", why not bring something intelligent to the table?

Yakupov and Galchenyuk are different styled players. They will not progress at the same rate and have two different teams and management systems.
- ChetManly

First of all, Galchenyuk is not really anything special right now.

Second, he's saying we should have draft Gally because we have an organizational need at centre. But the successful organization who did draft him, have deployed him most of his short career at LW. Evidently, they don't see him yet as a full-time NHL centreman. But this guy suggests the Oil would have made the right move by putting him there right away one paragraph after criticizing Nuge for not being ready for an NHL centre role?

I'm done with him. A good litmus test for a troll is whether they ever respond to any points you make, or just hammer the same thing over and over. He failed spectacularly, so I'm putting him in the newmy pile.

thanks, It's been a great day so far!
- ChetManly

Good morning BJ or what?

Hamilton was considered by many to be the top dman in the draft. He went 9th overall which was yes low... but considering the Oilers kept drafting forwards from 07-12 with their first picks while the defense was obviously a glaring need yes that would have been a good call at the time and still would be today.
- mnhockeyguy

Are you really trying to say that rookie defensemen would be all thats needed to turn the club around?