Who would, at present, be the #1 guy at his position on more teams: Nuge or Hamilton?

From my view, and giving anything approximating a tie to Hamilton, he clearly wouldn't be a #1 dman on:

Anaheim
Arizona
Boston (because he's not )
Calgary
Chicago
Colorado
Detroit
Los Angeles
Minnesota
Montreal
Nashville
Ottawa
Pittsburgh
San Jose
St Louis
Tampa Bay
Vancouver

As I say, I gave a LOT of leeway with some of the remaining 13 teams. (Sabres, Rangers, BJs and Leafs, off the top of my head).

As for Nuge, it's probably around the same, I don't think it'd be substantially more. And of course, both are going to progress and that number of teams for each will dwindle.

Maybe our friend can do the same exercize for Nuge though, and I'll find it's higher than I expected.

Who would, at present, be the #1 guy at his position on more teams: Nuge or Hamilton?

From my view, and giving anything approximating a tie to Hamilton, he clearly wouldn't be a #1 dman on:

Anaheim
Arizona
Boston (because he's not )
Calgary
Chicago
Colorado
Detroit
Los Angeles
Minnesota
Montreal
Nashville
Ottawa
Pittsburgh
San Jose
St Louis
Tampa Bay
Vancouver

As I say, I gave a LOT of leeway with some of the remaining 13 teams.

As for Nuge, it's probably around the same, I don't think it'd be substantially more. And of course, both are going to progress and that number of teams for each will dwindle.

Maybe our friend can do the same exercize for Nuge though, and I'll find it's higher than I expected.
- Morris

you really aren't holding out much hope for that to actually happen, are you?

You are hilarious. You list Hamilton as a player that has proven himself as #1 DMan of the future ( and by the sounds of it the present as well) , and Monohhan and Grandlund have done enough to be considered legit top line centers yet Nuge has not done enough to be considered a 1C of the future?

Holy (frank), man.
- Jeropotato

Except you know Granlund took over the reigns when Koivu went down and played lights out in the playoffs, and Monohan has them in the top 4 in the West right now... Nuge??????????????? Bueller????????????????????? Has Nuge made the players around him better???

Except you know Granlund took over the reigns when Koivu went down and played lights out in the playoffs, and Monohan has them in the top 4 in the West right now... Nuge??????????????? Bueller????????????????????? Has Nuge made the players around him better???
- mnhockeyguy

Yes.

Yes.
- ChetManly

not good enough clearly

Where do people draw the distinction between "bad 1st line centre" and "not a true 1st line centre?"

I find a lot of time that when people are commenting about someone's talent, they're often talking inadvertently about depth and organizational structure.
- Morris

Just like misinterperting Nuge as a #1C?

And I forgot about Ryan Johansen in that list.

not good enough clearly
- FLAM3SFAN

Apparently. We should be renamed the Edmonton Busts.

Who would, at present, be the #1 guy at his position on more teams: Nuge or Hamilton?

From my view, and giving anything approximating a tie to Hamilton, he clearly wouldn't be a #1 dman on:

Anaheim
Arizona
Boston (because he's not )
Calgary
Chicago
Colorado
Detroit
Los Angeles
Minnesota
Montreal
Nashville
Ottawa
Pittsburgh
San Jose
St Louis
Tampa Bay
Vancouver

As I say, I gave a LOT of leeway with some of the remaining 13 teams. (Sabres, Rangers, BJs and Leafs, off the top of my head).

As for Nuge, it's probably around the same, I don't think it'd be substantially more. And of course, both are going to progress and that number of teams for each will dwindle.

Maybe our friend can do the same exercize for Nuge though, and I'll find it's higher than I expected.
- Morris

Hamilton would be on Colorado, quite possibly Nashville if he was playing with Weber, Minnesota(only because Brodin is ill right now and hurt) possibly Montreal to spare Markov big minutes even though now he's bumped down to play with Gonchar.

Apparently. We should be renamed the Edmonton Busts.
- ChetManly

I hate this thread....

I hate this thread....
- spitfire187

Who would, at present, be the #1 guy at his position on more teams: Nuge or Hamilton?

From my view, and giving anything approximating a tie to Hamilton, he clearly wouldn't be a #1 dman on:

Anaheim
Arizona
Boston (because he's not )
Calgary
Chicago
Colorado
Detroit
Los Angeles
Minnesota
Montreal
Nashville
Ottawa
Pittsburgh
San Jose
St Louis
Tampa Bay
Vancouver

As I say, I gave a LOT of leeway with some of the remaining 13 teams. (Sabres, Rangers, BJs and Leafs, off the top of my head).

As for Nuge, it's probably around the same, I don't think it'd be substantially more. And of course, both are going to progress and that number of teams for each will dwindle.

Maybe our friend can do the same exercize for Nuge though, and I'll find it's higher than I expected.
- Morris

Nuge would not be the 1st line centre on any West team with the exception of possibly Winnipeg, which I already stated! The East is weaker of course so there are more teams there. Possibly:

Ottawa
Florida
Buffalo
Leafs

All teams that will more than likely miss the playoffs.

Except you know Granlund took over the reigns when Koivu went down and played lights out in the playoffs, and Monohan has them in the top 4 in the West right now... Nuge??????????????? Bueller????????????????????? Has Nuge made the players around him better???
- mnhockeyguy

So Granlund and his 8 points in 17 games on very good Minnisota team is a bonafide number 1 Center and Ryan Nugent Hopkins and his 13 points in 17 games on one of the worst teams In The league is not a #1 Center?

You should be an arbitration Lawyer with iron clad arguements like that.

Just for fun, how would this team look if the following things didn't or did happen?
1. Sheldon Souray quietly addressed his situation quietly and was moved for a 1st and prospect that summer ( 20th-30th overall, 2011 draft).

2. Ales Hemsky was traded at the Taylor Hall draft when we decided to go full rebuild.

3. Ryan Whitney didn't get hurt and continued to progress rather than regress.
Interesting but it shows how a couple poor decisions and some bad luck has really set us back.
- Jeropotato

ALL of this!

So Granlund and his 8 points in 17 games on very good Minnisota team is a bonafide number 1 Center and Ryan Nugent Hopkins and his 13 points in 17 games on one of the worst teams In The league is not a #1 Center?

You should be an arbitration Lawyer with iron clad arguements like that.
- Jeropotato

your avatar makes your replies that much better!

I hate this thread....
- spitfire187

Nuge would not be the 1st line centre on any West team with the exception of possibly Winnipeg, which I already stated! The East is weaker of course so there are more teams there. Possibly:

Ottawa
Florida
Buffalo
Leafs

All teams that will more than likely miss the playoffs.
- mnhockeyguy

What's the matter bub? Couldn't put everything into one reply?

- ChetManly

much better.... Let's lighten up the mood in here....

Hamilton would be on Colorado, quite possibly Nashville if he was playing with Weber, Minnesota(only because Brodin is ill right now and hurt) possibly Montreal to spare Markov big minutes even though now he's bumped down to play with Gonchar.
- mnhockeyguy

Hamilton wouldn't be the #1 on any of those teams you've listed. Strange argument

much better.... Let's lighten up the mood in here....
- spitfire187

- nanook82

What's new in the great white north?

Would you like me to help? There appears to be a lot of "hind-sight" within this thread, every knucklehead and his brother can do that. Here's a hind-sight list of the players they should of taken in the 1st and 2nd rounds LOL??

2007 - Logan Couture, Max Pacioretty & PK Subban
2008 - Jordan Eberle
2009 - Ryan O'Rielly & Robin Lehner
2010 - Taylor Hall
2011 - Gabriel Landeskog
2012 - Jacob Trouba
2013 - Nichushkin
2014 - Draisaitl

Landeskog Couture Patches
Hall ROR Nichushkin

Hamilton would be on Colorado, quite possibly Nashville if he was playing with Weber, Minnesota(only because Brodin is ill right now and hurt) possibly Montreal to spare Markov big minutes even though now he's bumped down to play with Gonchar.
- mnhockeyguy

FFS. Hamilton would be the 1D over both PK Subban and Shea F'n Weber?

So Granlund and his 8 points in 17 games on very good Minnisota team is a bonafide number 1 Center and Ryan Nugent Hopkins and his 13 points in 17 games on one of the worst teams In The league is not a #1 Center?

You should be an arbitration Lawyer with iron clad arguements like that.
- Jeropotato

Yes but look what he did for both Parise and Pominville. The team was floundering with koivu at the top spot and Granlund led them to the playoffs. So we was their bonafide #1 and that line has once again creaked havoc for other teams this year... When has Nuge ever taken the reigns so to speak? Hall does his thing regardless of whether Nuge is next to him or not... and they cant even find a fit for the other side on that top line...

- ChetManly

aweeeeeeee.... I want a bowl puppy!

Would you like me to help? There appears to be a lot of "hind-sight" within this thread, every knucklehead and his brother can do that. Here's a hind-sight list of the players they should of taken in the 1st and 2nd rounds LOL??

2007 - Logan Couture, Max Pacioretty & PK Subban
2008 - Jordan Eberle
2009 - Ryan O'Rielly & Robin Lehner
2010 - Taylor Hall
2011 - Gabriel Landeskog
2012 - Jacob Trouba
2013 - Nichushkin
2014 - Draisaitl

Landeskog Couture Patches
Hall ROR Nichushkin
- LeftCoaster

No, the hindsight is how we haven't focused on dmen at all and have only drafted forwards for the past 10 years.