Ott: Bickell
Chi: Smith, Weircoche

Mac - Turris - Ryan
Bickell - Zibby - Chiasson
Kid Line
9MM - Leggy - Neil
- tuna99

I'd rather take Richards (%cap) with less.

You either play Stone or Ryan with Mac and Turris, not Chiasson. Honestly, I don't like Michalek anywhere in the lineup, nor do I like Neil and Phillips.
My lines:
Mac-Turris-Ryan
Hoffman-Zibanejad-Stone
Michalek-Lazar-Chiasson
Smith-Legwand-Condra

Methot-Karlsson
Cowen-Ceci
Wericioch-Gryba

Edit: This is the best lineup if L2 and L3 can find some chemistry. Unfortunately, it will never happen because Neil and Phillips have A's. I hate their play. They are dragging this team down, believe me. Every time I watch the games,I see Phillips turn over the puck on such easy plays and Neil take awful penalties.
- TheCalSen

I think you're right, this ONLY works if Condra is in for Neil. Legwand and Neil together have been an absolute disaster, and Smith is a total ghost on the LW.

Ott: Bickell
Chi: Smith, Weircoche

Mac - Turris - Ryan
Bickell - Zibby - Chiasson
Kid Line
9MM - Leggy - Neil
- tuna99

that's a MASSIVE overpayment for bickell. i think smith is better than him, or atleast as good, and makes less than half what he does.

bickell had one good playoff run, cashed in, and is now incredibly overpaid.

Ott: Bickell
Chi: Smith, Weircoche

Mac - Turris - Ryan
Bickell - Zibby - Chiasson
Kid Line
9MM - Leggy - Neil
- tuna99

Not sure why people are so eager to trade Wiercioch. Say what you will about his untimely turnovers, but when that kid is on the ice, the Sens have the puck more. I'd move Smith, Chiasson, Phillips, Greening, Neil, prospects and picks before I move Wiercioch.

And isn't Bickell one notch above terrible? Not sure here though. There have to be better options.

First line: MacArthur - Turris - Chiasson
Second Line: Hoffman - Lazar - Stone
Third Line: Zibanejad - Legwand - Ryan
Fourth Line: Michalek - Smith - Neil/Condra

PP1: MacArthur- Legwand - Ryan - Turris - Karlsson
PP2: Chiasson - Lazar - Stone - Hoffman - Ceci

mostly agree except you cannot have Ryan on the third line...not with his contract and the fact that the coaching staff and he talked at length about him having more impact this year. My thinking is that Stone has played well on line 1 with Turris and MacArthur so that is where I would put him. Move Ryan to line 2 to play with Hoffman and Lazar. This gives the kid line more ice time and keeps Bobby Ryan in a top offensive role with two guys that can really skate/forecheck. Chiaisson can then move to line 3 with Zibby and the Leg-man, which also gives that line more speed on the puck. Line 4 should only see the ice if everyone else is gassed or the other team's 4th is out.

so to recap:

line1: MaCarthur-Turris-Stone
Line2: Hoffman-Lazar-Ryan
Line3: Zibanejad-Legwand-Chiaisson
Line4: Michalek-Smith-Neil

PP1: MacArthur-Turris-Ryan-Karlsson-Hoffman (just for fun..lol)
PP2: Zibanejad-Legwand-Stone-Ceci-Boroweicki

PP1 gives you the "all the weapons in one basket" approach (speed/shooting ability)
and PP2 gives you good puck movement and soft hands around the net, plus Ceci and Boro are fast enought to get back to cover if need be.

Anyways, I'm just throwing this out there to get people talking...

Not sure why people are so eager to trade Wiercioch. Say what you will about his untimely turnovers, but when that kid is on the ice, the Sens have the puck more. I'd move Smith, Chiasson, Phillips, Greening, Neil, prospects and picks before I move Wiercioch.

And isn't Bickell one notch above terrible? Not sure here though. There have to be better options.
- Stringer74

Same; however, management thinks otherwise. I hate how Phillips and Boro get a load of ice time, but this kid doesn't. He's way better than how the Ottawa Senators are using him. It's honestly a god damn shame. At this rate, I'd love to see them move him, only to quickly regret their doing...

that's a MASSIVE overpayment for bickell. i think smith is better than him, or atleast as good, and makes less than half what he does.

bickell had one good playoff run, cashed in, and is now incredibly overpaid.
- sensarmy_11

you're right, stupid trade.

Flo: Zibby, Methot, Greening
Ott: Huberdeau, Campbell

Florida retains a bunch of Campbell salary (like $2 million)

Same; however, management thinks otherwise. I hate how Phillips and Boro get a load of ice time, but this kid doesn't. He's way better than how the Ottawa Senators are using him. It's honestly a god damn shame. At this rate, I'd love to see them move him, only to quickly regret their doing...
- TheCalSen

quite frankly, at this point, he doesnt' really have a place on the team.

he's not good enough to unseat anyone in the top 4 (karlsson, meth, cowen, ceci), and he's not nearly good enough defensively to take the spot of the other 3 guys, and he's wasted playing on the bottom pair.

that being said, he actually has value in a trade, because he's big and can move the puck. there are lots of teams who could use him and actually fit him in their top 4. if we can package him and get a good 2nd line winger back, why not do it.

don't forget, sens also have 2-3 guys who are close to making the jump to the NHL.......claessen, wideman, and maybe wikstrand (to a lesser degree). weircioch could EASILY be passed by a couple of those guys too..........might as well move him now why he still has some value.

you're right, stupid trade.

Flo: Zibby, Methot, Greening
Ott: Huberdeau, Campbell

Florida retains a bunch of Campbell salary (like $2 million)
- tuna99

Man, you need to stop.

Mika Zibanejad: this is his scouting report [HF] "offensive skills, intensity, skating and an impressive attitude. His two-way play is mature for a player his age and he just has an innate feel for many of the more subtle aspects of the game such as face-offs and reading the play along with the physical components required to win puck battles and playing tough but within the rules. The offensive skills are there and it’s a matter of more polish and experience at this point. Ottawa will look for him to keep his poise as he develops into a complete NHL power forward." Reading that I don't see him doing a lot of those things; certainly has some them somewhere. Lines need to change
Bobby Ryan: "The combination of size and skill that all teams seem to be constantly after, Ryan’s forte is his ability to turn a scoring play into a scoring chance. Combining soft hands and excellent vision and poise, Ryan excels at protecting the puck with his large frame and cycling along the boards. Though it continues to improve, his skating is still a hindrance and that limits both his play away from the puck and his ability to be a consistent physical presence. If he doesn’t constantly keep his feet moving, his game loses its effectiveness in all three zones of play."That is very accurate.
Milan Michalek: not a top 6 forward ! Thus - move him to third line. who to move up though....uh....how about the 2nd leading LW...Hoffman!

quite frankly, at this point, he doesnt' really have a place on the team.

he's not good enough to unseat anyone in the top 4 (karlsson, meth, cowen, ceci), and he's not nearly good enough defensively to take the spot of the other 3 guys, and he's wasted playing on the bottom pair.

that being said, he actually has value in a trade, because he's big and can move the puck. there are lots of teams who could use him and actually fit him in their top 4. if we can package him and get a good 2nd line winger back, why not do it.

don't forget, sens also have 2-3 guys who are close to making the jump to the NHL.......claessen, wideman, and maybe wikstrand (to a lesser degree). weircioch could EASILY be passed by a couple of those guys too..........might as well move him now why he still has some value.
- sensarmy_11

Weircioch is as good as Ceci and Cowen, plus Methot might be on his way out next season. The rookies you mentioned (Claessen and Wideman) might not turn out to be that good in the NHL. I don't agree with the whole " he's wasted on the bottom pairing" thing, honestly, I'd rather have a decent defensemen on my bottom-6, than a geriatric who gives the puck away at the lamest times. On top of that, Wiercioch would sever the 2nd PP better than Ceci. He needs to play or needs to traded. I don't think he can fetch a 2nd line winger, unless Murray sees Stewart as 2LW, but you could probably get a prospect and pick for him.

Weircioch is as good as Ceci and Cowen, plus Methot might be on his way out next season. The rookies you mentioned (Claessen and Wideman) might not turn out to be that good in the NHL. I don't agree with the whole " he's wasted on the bottom pairing" thing, honestly, I'd rather have a decent defensemen on my bottom-6, than a geriatric who gives the puck away at the lamest times. On top of that, Wiercioch would sever the 2nd PP better than Ceci. He needs to play or needs to traded. I don't think he can fetch a 2nd line winger, unless Murray sees Stewart as 2LW, but you could probably get a prospect and pick for him.
- TheCalSen

come on now..........ceci has been our most consistent d-man this year, and cowen has been very good since coming back into the lineup.

both of them are younger than weircioch, playing better right now, and have way higher ceilings.

Man, you need to stop.
- TheCalSen

What, don't you watch the WJC - Huberdeau and Stone were one of the best lines ever for Canada, thye have chemistry you can't teach - this could be one of the best lines in the NHL one day.

Huberdeau - Lazar - Stone

Weircioch is as good as Ceci and Cowen, plus Methot might be on his way out next season. The rookies you mentioned (Claessen and Wideman) might not turn out to be that good in the NHL. I don't agree with the whole " he's wasted on the bottom pairing" thing, honestly, I'd rather have a decent defensemen on my bottom-6, than a geriatric who gives the puck away at the lamest times. On top of that, Wiercioch would sever the 2nd PP better than Ceci. He needs to play or needs to traded. I don't think he can fetch a 2nd line winger, unless Murray sees Stewart as 2LW, but you could probably get a prospect and pick for him.
- TheCalSen

i agree 100% with the bolded..........and the reality is that he won't play here, so trade him.

What, don't you watch the WJC - Huberdeau and Stone were one of the best lines ever for Canada, thye have chemistry you can't teach - this could be one of the best lines in the NHL one day.

Huberdeau - Lazar - Stone
- tuna99

Why Campbell though? An overpaid offensive defenseman who is getting old is not something Ottawa needs. Huberdeau would be great, but there is no way Florida is going to trade him for a center, when they are stockpiled with center propects; Barkov and Bjugstad.

Mac-Turris-Stone
Hoff-Legwand-Ryan
Michalek-Zibanejad-Chiasson
Smith-Lazar-Neil/Condra
- Stringer74

Very close !....

Here's a few KEY POINTS: 1) Hoffman 2nd line LW 2) Michalek no where near it 3) Ryan in top 6 4) Lazar top 9 5) 4th line for worst 3 offensive players 6) try kid line spliting

MacArthur - Turris - Stone (show chemistry)
Hoffman - Zibanejad - Ryan (to get Zibanejad going)
Michalek - Lazar - Chiasson
Smith- Legwand - Neil (9MM belongs on 4th line)

come on now..........ceci has been our most consistent d-man this year, and cowen has been very good since coming back into the lineup.

both of them are younger than weircioch, playing better right now, and have way higher ceilings.
- sensarmy_11

That's the thing, Ceci has played every single game. He has had games where he was been amazing and games he could do better in. Wiercioch hasn't had that opportunity in 2 seasons.

Very close !....

Here's a few KEY POINTS: 1) Hoffman 2nd line LW 2) Michalek no where near it 3) Ryan in top 6 4) Lazar top 9 5) 4th line for worst 3 offensive players 6) try kid line spliting

MacArthur - Turris - Stone (show chemistry)
Hoffman - Zibanejad - Ryan (to get Zibanejad going)
Michalek - Lazar - Chiasson
Smith- Legwand - Neil (9MM belongs on 4th line)
- AlfieisKing

copycat except for Neil...why not Condra?

come on now..........ceci has been our most consistent d-man this year, and cowen has been very good since coming back into the lineup.

both of them are younger than weircioch, playing better right now, and have way higher ceilings.
- sensarmy_11

yup......#65 > 3 > 5 ...........4 > 2 > 74 > 46

That's the thing, Ceci has played every single game. He has had games where he was been amazing and games he could do better in. Wiercioch hasn't had that opportunity in 2 seasons.
- TheCalSen

you have to think there is a reason for that...........

copycat except for Neil...why not Condra?
- TheCalSen

neil brings presence.....leadership... no one taking liberties on young players. also plays hard.....6th in nhl in hits another reason

yup......#65 > 3 > 5 ...........4 > 2 > 74 > 46
- AlfieisKing

not sure i agree with this....... and i do believe that weircioch is a better d-man than boro, it's just that he needs to get top 4 minutes, and he won't get that here.

with so many teams desperate for D, you have to imagine that someone like wiercioch would be a player lots of teams would be interested in
- sensarmy_11

Ottawa is desperate to improve their defense...and Wiercioch is a healthy scratch.

If he can't make Ottawa's lineup I don't think there is a lineup pounding on the door asking about him.

you have to think there is a reason for that...........
- sensarmy_11

Incompetence? Giving Cowen way too much wiggle room because he was a 1st rounder? I don't know, just guessing.

Ottawa is desperate to improve their defense...and Wiercioch is a healthy scratch.

If he can't make Ottawa's lineup I don't think there is a lineup pounding on the door asking about him.
- maaddmike

LOOOOOOOOL, the L.A Kings would throw their money at Weircioch. He's extremely underrated, obviously.