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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Nov 14 @ 1:51 PM ET
I get bit buy reptiles for a living..........
- HouseArrest187



And you do it better than any of us
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Nov 14 @ 1:52 PM ET
(frank) I wish, That Berkeley thing sounds awesome though!
- Oilfan19


Yeah, I'm trying not to get too excited, but the idea of moving to San Fran is pretty boss, especially given the temp here in Edmonton at the moment!!!
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Nov 14 @ 1:52 PM ET
Sometimes, but not always, you hear people simultaneously decry the oilers depth at centre and in the same post claim that we should have taken Landy - a real competitor - over Nuge - weak and soft. Yeah, that's right, build around two LWs.

The only intelligible way to play draft what-ifs is to do them as duos.

Hall-Nuge
OR
Hall-Huberdeau
OR
Seguin-Landeskog
OR
Seguin-Nuge
OR
Seguin-Huberdeau
OR
Seguin-Larsson

That's essentially what it was: Hall or Seguin in 2010, and Nuge or Larsson in 2011, followed by Huberdeau and Landeskog right on their heels.

I find it incredibly unlikely (and we'd have escaped with no less scorn) if we'd drafted Hall + a dman or Hall + a winger. In other words, we were getting out of those two drafts with at least one centre.

So looking at those options, it's clear that Hall-Nuge and Seguin-Landeskog are FAR ahead of the other outcomes, and I'd argue it comes down to personal preference with those outcomes.

- Morris


Hemsky, Eberle and a 2nd for Seguin.. we could have done it at that draft
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Nov 14 @ 1:53 PM ET


And you do it better than any of us

- lumlums

you goddam right!!!

Miss you lumZ
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Nov 14 @ 1:53 PM ET
Hemsky, Eberle and a 2nd for Seguin.. we could have done it at that draft
- Oilers4Life14

I've heard that repeated a lot on here, but is there a reputable source for that?
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Nov 14 @ 1:54 PM ET
Love that stupid crazy kings fan.....
- HouseArrest187


Hopefully he didnt manage to drink his liver out
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Nov 14 @ 1:55 PM ET
Yeah, I'm trying not to get too excited, but the idea of moving to San Fran is pretty boss, especially given the temp here in Edmonton at the moment!!!
- lumlums

Been there a few times back in the day..... Sick city.... Love alkatraz.... And fishermans pier....
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Nov 14 @ 1:55 PM ET
Yeah, I'm trying not to get too excited, but the idea of moving to San Fran is pretty boss, especially given the temp here in Edmonton at the moment!!!
- lumlums

Yeah that would be pretty bad ass. I actually don't mind the winter this year. I have a son on the way any day now so it's got me all excited for christmas and all that. Winter would be alot more tolerable if anyone mentioning hockey didnt maybe me wanna cry about the oilers
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Nov 14 @ 1:55 PM ET
Hopefully he didnt manage to drink his liver out
- Oilers4Life14

He's a trooper, just like me...
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 14 @ 1:55 PM ET


The working title at the minute is "Synthesis and reactivity of novel electrophillic transition metal hydrides"

It's gonna be a beaut

Know what else is awesome? The fact that I *may* (i.e. waiting for funding confirmation) have a postdoctoral research position at Berkeley

- lumlums

Dude, that Berkely thing sounds awesome!! What would prevent that from happening?
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Nov 14 @ 1:56 PM ET
Yeah that would be pretty bad ass. I actually don't mind the winter this year. I have a son on the way any day now so it's got me all excited for christmas and all that. Winter would be alot more tolerable if anyone mentioning hockey didnt maybe me wanna cry about the oilers
- Oilfan19

Congrats bro.... Is it your first?
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Nov 14 @ 1:56 PM ET
Sometimes, but not always, you hear people simultaneously decry the oilers depth at centre and in the same post claim that we should have taken Landy - a real competitor - over Nuge - weak and soft. Yeah, that's right, build around two LWs.

The only intelligible way to play draft what-ifs is to do them as duos.

Hall-Nuge
OR
Hall-Huberdeau
OR
Seguin-Landeskog
OR
Seguin-Nuge
OR
Seguin-Huberdeau
OR
Seguin-Larsson

That's essentially what it was: Hall or Seguin in 2010, and Nuge or Larsson in 2011, followed by Huberdeau and Landeskog right on their heels.

I find it incredibly unlikely (and we'd have escaped with no less scorn) if we'd drafted Hall + a dman or Hall + a winger. In other words, we were getting out of those two drafts with at least one centre.

So looking at those options, it's clear that Hall-Nuge and Seguin-Landeskog are FAR ahead of the other outcomes (maybe Seguin-Nuge is closer than others), and I'd argue it comes down to personal preference with those outcomes.

- Morris


Seguin and Nuge this one could be argued... The Hall and Landeskog one could be argued as well as the Seguin Landeskog... The dmen for those drafts at the time for 1st overall - wont know about them for another 5 ish years... Actually with the fwds we still wont know until another 2 or so years- its just wait and see how things pan out- that is if there are many of these high end picks remaining still on this team by then... to evaluate if we chose right
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Nov 14 @ 1:57 PM ET
Dude, that Berkely thing sounds awesome!! What would prevent that from happening?
- ChetManly

Car accident, hit buy a bus, heroine addiction.... Lots of things really...
Steven_Dean
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: KL
Joined: 07.10.2012

Nov 14 @ 1:58 PM ET
how are you beating it?

anderson > reimer
methot > gardiner

including a 2nd rd pick next season doesn't offset the fact that you're giving up 2 inferior players.

- sensarmy_11


Even if that was accurate the value difference isn't that much and since Methot is already at his prime and a pending UFA the trade value is better from the Leafs deal, which was my point all along.

Not saying that either deals gets in Eberle, although his value has taken a dive for some reason in the last couple years (likely his over value is levelling out, I once believed Eberle to be worth close to hall or RNH.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Nov 14 @ 1:59 PM ET
Is there alot of snow in Alberta right now?? I mean outside of the mountains- do you have a few inch base?? I ask this as we usually get your weather like a week or so later... Its been cold lately- no snow and cold...
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Nov 14 @ 1:59 PM ET
Sometimes, but not always, you hear people simultaneously decry the oilers depth at centre and in the same post claim that we should have taken Landy - a real competitor - over Nuge - weak and soft. Yeah, that's right, build around two LWs.

The only intelligible way to play draft what-ifs is to do them as duos.

Hall-Nuge
OR
Hall-Huberdeau
OR
Seguin-Landeskog
OR
Seguin-Nuge
OR
Seguin-Huberdeau
OR
Seguin-Larsson

That's essentially what it was: Hall or Seguin in 2010, and Nuge or Larsson in 2011, followed by Huberdeau and Landeskog right on their heels.

I find it incredibly unlikely (and we'd have escaped with no less scorn) if we'd drafted Hall + a dman or Hall + a winger. In other words, we were getting out of those two drafts with at least one centre.

So looking at those options, it's clear that Hall-Nuge and Seguin-Landeskog are FAR ahead of the other outcomes (maybe Seguin-Nuge is closer than others), and I'd argue it comes down to personal preference with those outcomes.

- Morris


hall-nuge.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 14 @ 2:00 PM ET
Seguin and Nuge this one could be argued... The Hall and Landeskog one could be argued as well as the Seguin Landeskog... The dmen for those drafts at the time for 1st overall - wont know about them for another 5 ish years... Actually with the fwds we still wont know until another 2 or so years- its just wait and see how things pan out- that is if there are many of these high end picks remaining still on this team by then... to evaluate if we chose right
- saskoil21

We should've drafted the stud Murray.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 14 @ 2:00 PM ET
Car accident, hit buy a bus, heroine addiction.... Lots of things really...
- HouseArrest187

k-holes
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Nov 14 @ 2:00 PM ET
Is there alot of snow in Alberta right now?? I mean outside of the mountains- do you have a few inch base?? I ask this as we usually get your weather like a week or so later... Its been cold lately- no snow and cold...
- saskoil21

Regina got over an inch in the last 2 days....
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 14 @ 2:01 PM ET
Man, i bet if I used the "" face more you guys would probably hate me less


I did pretty good tho right?

- Oilers4Life14

no, we would still hate you.

Let's just say you sucked less than you normally do
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 14 @ 2:01 PM ET
Regina got over an inch in the last 2 days....
- HouseArrest187

Just had some flurries here in Ottawa.
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Nov 14 @ 2:01 PM ET
k-holes
- ChetManly

I totally plan on doing it again.... Not any time soon... But it was a trip I'll tell you what.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 14 @ 2:02 PM ET
I totally plan on doing it again.... Not any time soon... But it was a trip I'll tell you what.
- HouseArrest187

you need a phone so you can tell me all about it
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Nov 14 @ 2:02 PM ET
I've heard that repeated a lot on here, but is there a reputable source for that?
- Morris


At the time tho- that was alot... Today- with the results we have to date- would have been a good deal for the Oilers...

How about Hemsky- 15 games in with new team- healthy scratch last night we should have traded him for something... Tambo really (frank) us on that scenario...
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Nov 14 @ 2:04 PM ET
Congrats bro.... Is it your first?
- HouseArrest187

Yessir Pretty excited
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