Lmao. That's really your evidence? You put down other's opinions when supported by stats and claim the stats are flawed. What makes you so high and mighty that your "eye test" is above all else?

And if that's really all you have lets see some links to the segments of the games that support your statements.
- JFlyers00

Randy Jones.

Are u Upshallishottestman? With the hot Mom?
- BingoLady

Lol no I'm not anyone. GiG was GiG, will be GiG, and always will be GiG. Don't even know who this Upshall chap is

You see what you see and I see what I see. I respect your opinions, no matter how much you bludgeon everyone with them or how much I disagree with them.
- NickTheKid87

I respect your opinion also, I just don't agree with it in this case.


Edit: Although not completely. I do agree that execution and issues in defensive zone coverage are also an issue.

Seriously?

- mayorofangrytown

The last part was mostly a joke but the first paragraph was serious

I can't yet I still have an exam to cram for on Thursday
- Giroux_Is_God

sorry

sorry
- BiggE

But after that....I smell $5 whisky and cokes with at a free jazz bar at some point

Lol no I'm not anyone. GiG was GiG, will be GiG, and always will be GiG. Don't even know who this Upshall chap is
- Giroux_Is_God

a man should stand by his screenname

Competing away from the puck doesn't have anything to do with what line a player plays on, or who he plays with. That is just making excuses.
- MJL

If we want to talk about " competing away from the puck".... Well Mr Umberger does not do that too well. He is a veteran who is getting a break from his coach. His compete level must be stepped up

If we want to talk about " competing away from the puck".... Well Mr Umberger does not do that too well. He is a veteran who is getting a break from his coach. His compete level must be stepped up
- 3flyerkids

I don't think Umberger's play away from the puck, or his compete level is his issue. He isn't involved enough offensively. He needs to do a better job getting shots and getting to the net. Those are Umberger's issues in my opinion.

a man should stand by his screenname
- BulliesPhan87

I hereby decree that you change your screen name because you OBVIOUSLY are a Crosby fan. I expect it done immediately under penalty of public indifference!

it's long island on his mask, not just nassau county

I hereby decree that you change your screen name because you OBVIOUSLY are a Crosby fan. I expect it done immediately under penalty of public indifference!
- jmatchett383

That reads like a proclamation from a King!

We must combine their powers to create Umbekson, who is effective offensively and along the boards, competes, and carries a $575k cap hit

I don't think Umberger's play away from the puck, or his compete level is his issue. He isn't involved enough offensively. He needs to do a better job getting shots and getting to the net. Those are Umberger's issues in my opinion.
- MJL

What about him not pursuing the puck with any tenacity and/or backchecking hard on a consistent basis?

Edit: I typed, "hard on."

That reads like a proclamation from a King!
- MJL

Hast thou forgotten my King of Internet election?

We must combine their powers to create Umbekson, who is effective offensively and along the boards, competes, and carries a $575k cap hit
- BulliesPhan87

Can we also combine Blair Jones so that he'll drop the gloves? If a player doesn't fight enough, the fans will turn on him eventually.

We must combine their powers to create Umbekson, who is effective offensively and along the boards, competes, and carries a $575k cap hit
- BulliesPhan87

Is this before or after we combine Luke Schenn and Carlo Colaiacovo?

I hereby decree that you change your screen name because you OBVIOUSLY are a Crosby fan. I expect it done immediately under penalty of public indifference!
- jmatchett383

I guess choose indifference

idgaf

Is this before or after we combine Luke Schenn and Carlo Colaiacovo?
- johndewar

before that, but after we channel the ghost of Chris Pronger into Morin

I guess choose indifference

idgaf
- BulliesPhan87

yeah, well tfdlrhwc to you.

What about him not pursuing the puck with any tenacity and/or backchecking hard on a consistent basis?

Edit: I typed, "hard on."
- jmatchett383

I think there have been some cases where he blew a coverage, but overall, I think his defensive play and play away from the puck have been fine.

In the games where the team has lacked intensity, such as the Florida game, he is not exempt from that.

Is this before or after we combine Luke Schenn and Carlo Colaiacovo?
- johndewar

A slow skating constantly injured defenseman?

yeah, well tfdlrhwc to you.
- jmatchett383

take five dollars, let Regis hang with children?

Is this before or after we combine Luke Schenn and Carlo Colaiacovo?
- johndewar

We need Flo and the Progressive bundler!

I think there have been some cases where he blew a coverage, but overall, I think his defensive play and play away from the puck have been fine.

In the games where the team has lacked intensity, such as the Florida game, he is not exempt from that.
- MJL

I know you probably won't agree, but I think his brain knows what to do, but the body/will sometimes are lacking.