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thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Oct 31 @ 5:04 PM ET
Meh. I hope Benning takes advantage of the cap issues with Kings and pitches Higgins or Hansen for Stoll or Williams. Kings are in cap hell right now. Voynov suspended but with pay means cap of 4 mil counts. Kings are over the cap and desperately need some relief. Stoll as our 3LC would look awesome. Or get Williams to play 2nd line wing.
- Linden_4_Capt

NO
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Oct 31 @ 5:05 PM ET
I don't think you demote Higgins off that line he has arguably been one of our best players. While he is hot keep him there. Don't take away chemistry between him and Bonino.
- thundachunk

I am more for trading Higgins while his value is high.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 31 @ 5:08 PM ET
I am more for trading Higgins while his value is high.
- Linden_4_Capt

Doubt that happens unless the team is out of the playoff picture at the TDL
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Oct 31 @ 5:10 PM ET
Meh. I hope Benning takes advantage of the cap issues with Kings and pitches Higgins or Hansen for Stoll or Williams. Kings are in cap hell right now. Voynov suspended but with pay means cap of 4 mil counts. Kings are over the cap and desperately need some relief. Stoll as our 3LC would look awesome. Or get Williams to play 2nd line wing.
- Linden_4_Capt



Kings have big time issues next year as well. I doubt they would want to take on more long-term contracts when they need to resign Pearson, Tofoli, Nolan, Clifford, Martin and Martinez.... as well as the two guys you are offering. If they would want anyone off our roster it would be a cheap option who has one year left. So a Richardson or Matthias.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Oct 31 @ 5:10 PM ET
I am more for trading Higgins while his value is high.
- Linden_4_Capt

I wouldn't I have a thing for players who work hard game in and game out practice and otherwise. Hence why I liked Mitchell. Nothing makes a person more successful than hard word and perseverance. Guys like that get my respect. He is a deadline guy if you are to trade him. A team making a push for a cup would love him for a run.

Edit: Nucker beat me as trading him at the deadline.
Gullzy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.07.2013

Oct 31 @ 5:13 PM ET
Burrows hit was late but to suggest that it was dirty is preposterous. I do think he should get a 1-2 game suspension for it because we're trying to get rid of that crap. He knew it was a late hit too. It was pretty obvious to me that he regretted it when he got back to the bench.

Wether he gets suspended or not, he deserves it in my opinion.
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Oct 31 @ 5:16 PM ET
Kings have big time issues next year as well. I doubt they would want to take on more long-term contracts when they need to resign Pearson, Tofoli, Nolan, Clifford, Martin and Martinez.... as well as the two guys you are offering. If they would want anyone off our roster it would be a cheap option who has one year left. So a Richardson or Matthias.
- Mungo

Okay, so Mathias for Williams. my point is we have enough NHL caliber players that are cheap that we can trade for cap relief to Kings for guys like Williams and Stoll. Williams is winner at all levels and has a second gear in the playoffs.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 31 @ 5:17 PM ET
Buddy, have some Poutine and relax, it's all good.
- VanHockeyGuy

Burrows is so misunderstood. A girl I know has his poster above her bed so he can't be a real bad guy now can he?
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Oct 31 @ 5:21 PM ET
Okay, so Mathias for Williams. my point is we have enough NHL caliber players that are cheap that we can trade for cap relief to Kings for guys like Williams and Stoll. Williams is winner at all levels and has a second gear in the playoffs.
- Linden_4_Capt



I agree. Canucks should use their cap space to take advantage of teams who need help. Stoll would be nice. We need a face-off specialist!!

Or we can wait to the trade deadline and really take advantage of a non-playoff team that just wants to unload a big contract. ala LA with the Gaborik deal with CBJ
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 31 @ 5:25 PM ET
Worst thing about "Burrows-gate" is that it will make it harder to deal him to the Habs
- Mungo

why do you think he did it
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Oct 31 @ 5:29 PM ET
I agree. Canucks should use their cap space to take advantage of teams who need help. Stoll would be nice. We need a face-off specialist!!

Or we can wait to the trade deadline and really take advantage of a non-playoff team that just wants to unload a big contract. ala LA with the Gaborik deal with CBJ

- Mungo

TDL deals are always an overpayment. We have 2 immediate needs that we can address with our cap space. Face off specialist or a scoring winger with higher hockey IQ to play with Bonino. To address that at TDL will cost us a lot more.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Oct 31 @ 5:31 PM ET
Emelin is one of the more dirty players in the league, he had this coming. He made a bad pass, tried to make up for it by drawing a penalty... League will see this and not do anything with Burrows.

On another note, how about Subban having a hissy fit with Daniel. What was that all about? I love how Bieksa keeps coming to the twins rescue, Subban hid like a little baby when he saw him coming. Next time Dorsett should just start punching Plekanec or the team's star, that will teach them a lesson.
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Oct 31 @ 5:32 PM ET
Burrows is so misunderstood. A girl I know has his poster above her bed so he can't be a real bad guy now can he?
- VANTEL

Well that depends...above her bed headboard or above her bed ceiling? If ceiling then he is dirty, but if headboard then that is idol/worship category. Perfectly innocent.
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Oct 31 @ 5:34 PM ET
TDL deals are always an overpayment. We have 2 immediate needs that we can address with our cap space. Face off specialist or a scoring winger with higher hockey IQ to play with Bonino. To address that at TDL will cost us a lot more.
- Linden_4_Capt



Gaborik went for Frattin and a conditional 2nd round pick. That's pretty cheap IMO. top ticket guys like that don't go for much since there's not much of a market. Most of the top teams are capped out and can't add a big contract like that at the TDL. If you have cap space and you're still in the playoff picture it's probably just you and a handful of other teams bidding on one player. Smaller market = cheaper price.
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Oct 31 @ 5:37 PM ET
Emelin is one of the more dirty players in the league, he had this coming. He made a bad pass, tried to make up for it by drawing a penalty... League will see this and not do anything with Burrows.

On another note, how about Subban having a hissy fit with Daniel. What was that all about? I love how Bieksa keeps coming to the twins rescue, Subban hid like a little baby when he saw him coming. Next time Dorsett should just start punching Plekanec or the team's star, that will teach them a lesson.

- Scooby_Doo

I am perfectly fine with Subban doing that. It was refreshing to see Daniel stand up for himself. I think that little quibble that they had going took Subban off his game. The difference between Dorsett doing the same and Subban is Dorsett is paid to do that, where as Subban is paid to contribute on the scoresheet.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Oct 31 @ 5:38 PM ET
Emelin is one of the more dirty players in the league, he had this coming. He made a bad pass, tried to make up for it by drawing a penalty... League will see this and not do anything with Burrows.

On another note, how about Subban having a hissy fit with Daniel. What was that all about? I love how Bieksa keeps coming to the twins rescue, Subban hid like a little baby when he saw him coming. Next time Dorsett should just start punching Plekanec or the team's star, that will teach them a lesson.

- Scooby_Doo

You sir are awesome. [/URL]
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Oct 31 @ 5:43 PM ET
Gaborik went for Frattin and a conditional 2nd round pick. That's pretty cheap IMO. top ticket guys like that don't go for much since there's not much of a market. Most of the top teams are capped out and can't add a big contract like that at the TDL. If you have cap space and you're still in the playoff picture it's probably just you and a handful of other teams bidding on one player. Smaller market = cheaper price.
- Mungo

Gaborik had and NMC and was willing to waive for Kings only. Hence the low price. Also Gaborik at that point had only averaged 40 games per season. Kinda hard to trade away top assets for someone that only plays about 1/2 a season.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 31 @ 5:46 PM ET
Emelin is one of the more dirty players in the league, he had this coming. He made a bad pass, tried to make up for it by drawing a penalty... League will see this and not do anything with Burrows.

On another note, how about Subban having a hissy fit with Daniel. What was that all about? I love how Bieksa keeps coming to the twins rescue, Subban hid like a little baby when he saw him coming. Next time Dorsett should just start punching Plekanec or the team's star, that will teach them a lesson.

- Scooby_Doo


Yeah go post that in the Habs thread and see what kind of reception it gets...
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Oct 31 @ 5:59 PM ET
Yeah go post that in the Habs thread and see what kind of reception it gets...
- bloatedmosquito


Dude, you're full on trolling them. Are you surprised that they're not telling you how awesome you are?
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Oct 31 @ 6:00 PM ET
Gaborik had and NMC and was willing to waive for Kings only. Hence the low price. Also Gaborik at that point had only averaged 40 games per season. Kinda hard to trade away top assets for someone that only plays about 1/2 a season.
- Linden_4_Capt



The NMC makes a difference. I don't see Vancouver as being an undesirable destination.... unless torts comes back!

Top notch guys who are on big tickets don't really go for much in the cap world. Especially if they have NMC. Look at Iggy, Lu, Gaborik.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 31 @ 6:00 PM ET
I get tired of the people who refuse to acknowledge that a hit to the head isn't black and white illegal. Intended hits to the head are. The player turns his body at the last second... not Burrows' target.

I think the hit was borderline late. A 2 minute penalty at best. Refs evened the goal up later by burning Bieksa on his crosscheck that should have sent the Gallagher away from Miller, but he redirected himself.

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 31 @ 6:01 PM ET
LOL

Bunch of homers. Burrows cleraly hit late and directly to the head. Take it like men douchebags.

Burrows will miss thge next 2 games and it won't matter at all.

Stop acting like idiots in the name of homering. Damn

- soad_live


You opinion is just that.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 31 @ 6:05 PM ET
OMG, these Habs fans here are stupid.

If Burrows intended a direct hit to the head, he would have had to come from a different angle. Instead we have the wussy turn his body up and towards Burrows at the last second,,, first contact is not the head either.... but final contact.

Its just a Cliche that Habs fans know their hockey. These bunch keeps proving it.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 31 @ 6:10 PM ET
Canucks fans, your player took a run at guy. it was cheap and gutless.
deal with it and stop whining. this thread is like a room full of 12 year old girls trying to understand why so much blood is coming out of their vagina.

- DoubleDown


Not everyday that a player sets up a beautiful goal and gets a 10 on a dive all in the same shift... even if the goal was on your own net.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Oct 31 @ 6:12 PM ET
I'm sure I'm probably addressing what is old news, but I just had to say this:

What excuse(s) are left in terms of the twins performances (namely, we've now played some very good teams and the Sedins have not let up - in fact they seem to be getting better).

(had to rub it in, Vantel )
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