No way I give up Nick for Myers Myers is soft and not real dependable

Nope, wouldn't do that deal either. It's clear at this point the Sabres want more than anyone else thinks Myers is worth. Probably going to be months of Myers rumors but no trade unless the Sabres reduce their ask or someone gets desperate and gives in (or most likely a little bit of both).
- noffsin6

The Sabres have all the power in dealing Myers. All of it. Good luck getting a fair deal for him.

No way I give up Nick for Myers Myers is soft and not real dependable
- holeinone

Well that's inaccurate, but ok.

The Sabres have all the power in dealing Myers. All of it. Good luck getting a fair deal for him.
- TheSabresTaco

Its not like Nichushkin is setting the hockey world on fire. He's played 2 games this year. Timmy just say no! Shop for him in the Lindy Ruff slightly used bargain bin in the near future.

Myers for Ruff.

Its not like Nichushkin is setting the hockey world on fire. He's played 2 games this year. Timmy just say no! Shop for him in the Lindy Ruff slightly used bargain bin in the near future.
- UncleRico71

Played injured those two games before being taken out because of the injury. Had he been healthy I'm sure his points would look good the way our top lines have been playing. Either way, Nill isn't an idiot. He's not going to trade him unless we get a legit top pairing D man.

Played injured those two games before being taken out because of the injury. Had he been healthy I'm sure his points would look good the way our top lines have been playing. Either way, Nill isn't an idiot. He's not going to trade him unless we get a legit top pairing D man.
- NoobasaurusRex

Myers is a legit top pairing defensemen

I understand fully not wanting to trade Nichuskin but that's the type of player it would take to get him.

Well that's inaccurate, but ok.
- TheSabresTaco

The Sabres have all the power in dealing Myers. All of it. Good luck getting a fair deal for him.
- TheSabresTaco

Yeah they are a historically bad team and they have no interest in getting better and lowering their chances at getting their savior, we get it.

Other GMs should probably just leave them to their losing and wait for other players to become available when their teams drop out of playoff contention.

The Sabres have all the power in dealing Myers. All of it. Good luck getting a fair deal for him.
- TheSabresTaco

how so?


the other team HAS to give what the sabres want? i didnt realize there was a gun to anyone's head.


if ur contention insinuates that the sabres will get what they want or not deal him, couldnt the same be said of the trading partner?
they'll also give the value they think is fair, or not make the deal.

how so?


the other team HAS to give what the sabres want? i didnt realize there was a gun to anyone's head.


if ur contention insinuates that the sabres will get what they want or not deal him, couldnt the same be said of the trading partner?
they'll give the value they think is fair, or not make the deal....
- hugefemale dog77

When you have a desirable commodity, like Myers, you set the market price.

The Sabres are driving the bus in any potential deal. Of course they don't have a gun to anyone's head but they are the ones in control.

When you have a desirable commodity, like Myers, you set the market price.

The Sabres are driving the bus in any potential deal. Of course they don't have a gun to anyone's head but they are the ones in control.
- eichiefs9

they can ask as much as they want, but this doesnt mean theyre in control whatsoever. id wager that myers has been at least discussed in trade talks for near a year but hes still a sabre. and whatever the reasons we decide for that is nothing more than conjecture. but its certainly plausible that theyve asked too much and the other teams arent interested in paying it.

and as far as dallas; they certainly have some defensive issues, but will myers really change that in any drastic way? maybe.
but theyre 4-2-2. far from desperation mode or a position of weakness. with a winning record and a team thats better on paper than the one that made the playoffs last year, id say theyre dealing from a position thats pretty strong

how so?


the other team HAS to give what the sabres want? i didnt realize there was a gun to anyone's head.


if ur contention insinuates that the sabres will get what they want or not deal him, couldnt the same be said of the trading partner?
they'll also give the value they think is fair, or not make the deal.
- hugefemale dog77

This is exactly the scenario.

They don't need to move him, frankly I don't think the Sabres are going to move him anyway, and not because of their high asking price. I think over the next year he is going to play himself out of trade rumors. Either way, he's 24 and locked up for four more seasons. They have over a year until his NTC clause kicks in, and his play is ascending, smart money says he stays and his value becomes greater

This is exactly the scenario.

They don't need to move him, frankly I don't think the Sabres are going to move him anyway, and not because of their high asking price. I think over the next year he is going to play himself out of trade rumors. Either way, he's 24 and locked up for four more seasons. They have over a year until his NTC clause kicks in, and his play is ascending, smart money says he stays and his value becomes greater
- sbroads24

but dallas isnt desperate to acquire him either. theyre a winning hockey club.

i just dont buy the logic

they can ask as much as they want, but this doesnt mean theyre in control whatsoever. id wager that myers has been at least discussed in trade talks for near a year but hes still a sabre. and whatever the reasons we decide for that is nothing more than conjecture. but its certainly plausible that theyve asked too much and the other teams arent interested in paying it.

and as far as dallas; they certainly have some defensive issues, but will myers really change that in any drastic way? maybe.
but theyre 4-2-2. far from desperation mode or a position of weakness.
- hugefemale dog77

I definitely think we make a move for a D man. We are playing 2 rookies and 2 players with 2 years in the league. Honestly our record should be better. Crawford stole the first game and horrendous puck luck got us against Philly. We win those games and this thread never exists.

When you have a desirable commodity, like Myers, you set the market price.

The Sabres are driving the bus in any potential deal. Of course they don't have a gun to anyone's head but they are the ones in control.
- eichiefs9

Nope, the market sets the price. The Sabres can name what they want, but if it's more than the market they won't get it. Which is why all of the rumors are about teams passing on Myers when they hear the Sabres ask (Detroit nope, Dallas nope) and not about any deals being close. The only advantage the Sabres really have is that they are in the unusual position of wanting to lose games.

but dallas isnt desperate to acquire him either. theyre a winning hockey club.

i just dont buy the logic
- hugefemale dog77

I don't buy the logic in moving Myers right now. Not without seeing how good the Sabres defensive prospects turn out first. IMO the rumors are teams calling the Sabres inquiring about Myers, not the other way around

buffalo: ALL the teenagers.

Nope, the market sets the price. The Sabres can name what they want, but if it's more than the market they won't get it. Which is why all of the rumors are about teams passing on Myers when they hear the Sabres ask (Detroit nope, Dallas nope) and not about any deals being close. The only advantage the Sabres really have is that they are in the unusual position of wanting to lose games.
- noffsin6

The point is the Sabres hold all the cards. They don't have to deal him. He didn't (as far as the public knows, anyway) ask to be traded. He isn't in a UFA year and his contract is more than manageable, especially as the cap will continue to increase. There is no urgency. Murray can set his price, put his feet up and wait. If he doesn't get what he wants then it's not exactly like they're having a hard time being a total donkey-show with him on the roster.

I guess I'm just really surprised by all the Myers trade rumors (and moreso by the undervaluing of him)... he has been compared to Chara his entire career and, if it does indeed take d-men of their stature so long to develop, why would the Sabres shoot themselves in the foot and give up on him now?

I'm not going to sit here and make off-the-wall trade requests or anything like that, not my job or place... I just believe that all 30 NHL GM's have to think about Chara and the Islanders->Ottawa->Boston saga every time they look at #57.

The Sabres are not going to be a contending team for AT LEAST a few more seasons so if GMTM's plans go accordingly wouldn't we want a ~27-year-old Tyler Myers on that team?
- HowDoYouDrew

Fully agree with you.

Nope, the market sets the price. The Sabres can name what they want, but if it's more than the market they won't get it. Which is why all of the rumors are about teams passing on Myers when they hear the Sabres ask (Detroit nope, Dallas nope) and not about any deals being close. The only advantage the Sabres really have is that they are in the unusual position of wanting to lose games.
- noffsin6

What is the market for a former calder winning 6'8 24 year old defensemen? Because to me at least there is only one that might be "available"

I don't buy the logic in moving Myers right now. Not without seeing how good the Sabres defensive prospects turn out first. IMO the rumors are teams calling the Sabres inquiring about Myers, not the other way around
- sbroads24

sure. dont trade him

and im sure that it is teams inquiring to see what the sabres want for myers. but this still doesnt mean they set the market.

the market is what someone is willing to pay, not what the sabres think hes worth.

u know i like myers, been interested in him for ages. but it think theres a huge disconnect in who he currently is to outsiders and who he is to sabres faithful.
he is NOT oel or mcdonagh, hes not worth near what those guys would garner.
ive heard the sabre fans say eberle +....this is ludicuous imo, and u just wouldnt get it

I think I know why Lindy always appears distraught:



- glove_was_stuck

Myers is a legit top pairing defensemen

I understand fully not wanting to trade Nichuskin but that's the type of player it would take to get him.
- sbroads24

Myers in his rookie season was a legit top pairing guy. Right now he's a top four guy with potential to grow. Not a slam, but he's not a top pairing guy unless it's a bottom third team.