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hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Oct 20 @ 5:33 PM ET
Mike Colligan
- Ryan_Wilson


He phrased it as if the interest was between Martin and the Kings, not the Penguins and the Kings:

Have heard there is mutual interest between Martin and #LAKings; LA would need to move salary though


And it's weird that this post follows this one:

#LAKings potential landing spot for Paul Martin if he moves; Kings offered more money than Pens 4 years ago when Martin signed in Pittsburgh


Guess I just don't buy it unless I hear it from the primary source or I hear it from either the P-G or the Canadian national media, like Dreger or Mac or Friedman.

The "rumor" business is just too lucrative to trust at this point.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 20 @ 5:54 PM ET
I think if Martin would wave to go to Edmonton a trade with them will have already happened.

I'd like to see a trade with Edmonton personally, I think we each have what the other needs. Sutter + dman prospect. I would go for Yakupov, I watch a lot of Edmonton games and Yak is always putting in the effort. Perron is nice, but the ceiling for Yak is very high, especially when he can learn next to Sid and Geno. Yak plays with that high tempo that Sid plays with and I'd like more of it.

If we're trading with LA, isn't Mike Richards playing 4th line? I'd target him, same salary as Martin.

- stackthepads


Edmonton isn't giving you yak for a prospect and a third line center.
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Oct 20 @ 5:55 PM ET
He phrased it as if the interest was between Martin and the Kings, not the Penguins and the Kings:



And it's weird that this post follows this one:



Guess I just don't buy it unless I hear it from the primary source or I hear it from either the P-G or the Canadian national media, like Dreger or Mac or Friedman.

The "rumor" business is just too lucrative to trust at this point.

- hardnosed


We'll trade you Slava Voynov for Paul Martin?
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 20 @ 5:57 PM ET
We'll trade you Slava Voynov for Paul Martin?
- tkecanuck341


throw in a ray rice jersey and you might have a real offer there!

Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Oct 20 @ 6:21 PM ET
Mike Colligan is the gold standard as far as people who cover the Penguins.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Oct 20 @ 6:33 PM ET
Edmonton isn't giving you yak for a prospect and a third line center.
- Isles_since_6


They would if that prospect is pouliot.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Oct 20 @ 6:45 PM ET
Mike Colligan is the gold standard as far as people who cover the Penguins.
- Ryan_Wilson



Next to you, Bro'vechkin!
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

Oct 20 @ 6:54 PM ET
he really should of factored in the nickname value when calculating this trade

another black eye for #fancystats Wilson

- BulliesPhan87


The nickname value is the most important of the fancy stats. It determines a players worth in the minds of the fans which is more vital then any other stat. Especially if that players nickname is Yak.
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Oct 20 @ 7:35 PM ET
I think if Martin would wave to go to Edmonton a trade with them will have already happened.

I'd like to see a trade with Edmonton personally, I think we each have what the other needs. Sutter + dman prospect. I would go for Yakupov, I watch a lot of Edmonton games and Yak is always putting in the effort. Perron is nice, but the ceiling for Yak is very high, especially when he can learn next to Sid and Geno. Yak plays with that high tempo that Sid plays with and I'd like more of it.

If we're trading with LA, isn't Mike Richards playing 4th line? I'd target him, same salary as Martin.

- stackthepads


DEAL. Draw up the paperwork.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Oct 20 @ 7:49 PM ET
Mike Colligan is the gold standard as far as people who cover the Penguins.
- Ryan_Wilson


He's typically a good read analytically, but he doesn't live in Pittsburgh and I assume he doesn't have a press pass, which makes me doubt that he has inside information other than the usual hearsay.

His tweets sounded like connecting the dots, not reporting on something tangible from a stakeholder.

Doesn't matter, Martin isn't going to the Kings, at least not anytime soon. I'm guessing Voynov will be back before the deadline, if not way sooner.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Oct 20 @ 8:40 PM ET
He's typically a good read analytically, but he doesn't live in Pittsburgh and I assume he doesn't have a press pass, which makes me doubt that he has inside information other than the usual hearsay.

His tweets sounded like connecting the dots, not reporting on something tangible from a stakeholder.

Doesn't matter, Martin isn't going to the Kings, at least not anytime soon. I'm guessing Voynov will be back before the deadline, if not way sooner.

- hardnosed


The only rumor reporter I follow with 100% trust is EK
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Oct 20 @ 8:56 PM ET
The only rumor reporter I follow with 100% trust is EK
- drummer829


Well, obviously.


tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Oct 20 @ 9:10 PM ET
DEAL. Draw up the paperwork.
- Only_A_Ladd


You're crazy.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Oct 20 @ 10:06 PM ET
The only rumor reporter I follow with 100% trust is EK
- drummer829



Absolutely. I 100% trust him to be wrong 100% of the time
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Oct 20 @ 11:06 PM ET
DEAL. Draw up the paperwork.
- Only_A_Ladd

If we are taking Richards contract...

Martin/Scuderi for Richards/your worst 4th liner or 7th dman
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Oct 20 @ 11:13 PM ET
You're crazy.
- tkecanuck341


Lotta cap room, brother. I'm his biggest fan, but...
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Oct 21 @ 12:54 AM ET
Lotta cap room, brother. I'm his biggest fan, but...
- Only_A_Ladd


That doesn't mean we should jettison him for less than he is worth. Richards for 6 years straight up for Paul Martin for 6 months?
GlueBoy89
Joined: 07.01.2014

Oct 21 @ 12:57 AM ET
Start thinking three team trades. To get around Martins no trade clause. Martin to LA, LA sends William back to Carolina, Carolina Sends Tlusty back to PIT, or similar scenario for Perron. Pens could send a D man prospect and the deadline for some veteran help at deadline with this extra cap space. I like him from Carloina, or Frolik, McGinn Yak has been a much improved player so far this season defensively and decision making but still needs allot of work.
pensfan024
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: somewhere in, VA
Joined: 09.25.2012

Oct 21 @ 6:26 AM ET
our offense looks pretty nasty so far this year. if we a yaks or williams.......oh boy look out!



Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Oct 21 @ 7:35 AM ET
Apparently Yakupov is still in the dog House and Perron has been sub par:

"It’s no time for negatives, so we can save all the discussion of Nail Yakupov’s ice-time (a team-low 10:47) or David Perron’s play (absolutely horrendous) for another day. Tonight, it’s all about the W."

From the Oilers blogger. I bet both could be had.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Oct 21 @ 8:06 AM ET
Apparently Yakupov is still in the dog House and Perron has been sub par:

"It’s no time for negatives, so we can save all the discussion of Nail Yakupov’s ice-time (a team-low 10:47) or David Perron’s play (absolutely horrendous) for another day. Tonight, it’s all about the W."

From the Oilers blogger. I bet both could be had.

- Barnaby36


They are treating him like crap and he is obviously on the outs with the organization. I keep my fingers on the pulse of the relationship. Once you feel it begin turn truly sour, make your offer. I'm hoping he falls out of favor fast in the organization and we can walk into a Nino-Clutterbuck type deal
Bradlee3
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tanev hit was clean.
Joined: 06.30.2012

Oct 21 @ 8:38 AM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/talent/...-and-deportation-1.111896

Interesting article, written from a legal standpoint, Voynov could be deported if found guilty! Ouch ! Most likely won't get that far but still ...
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Oct 21 @ 8:50 AM ET
That was pretty self explanatory...

Most don't try to make a big trade right away, they look around, evaluate, and crunch numbers.

A team may have a defenseman injured for a season and want Martin for a cup run. Or to try and make the playoffs.

ehrhoff was rumored to want to sign an extension here as soon as legally possible.

Martin is here for now, so enjoy it.

- Guile

You should look around and research my comments before you chime in. I read something and wanted opinions on that deal nothing else. I've stated several times I'd prefer to keep Martin at this point. If you answer a question with a question you're a douche.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Oct 21 @ 9:00 AM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/talent/macramalla-voynov-criminal-charges-and-deportation-1.111896

Interesting article, written from a legal standpoint, Voynov could be deported if found guilty! Ouch ! Most likely won't get that far but still ...

- Bradlee3


Yeah, we have two justice system's these days. Voynov will get "rich man's" justice. He'll be back in time for the playoffs. He'll attend classes, get probation and pay court fee's.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Oct 21 @ 9:37 AM ET
Ok pens sent down pouliot meaning which means borts is probably going to be back off ir. So what are D lines. Is harrington still up?
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