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Forums :: Blog World :: Eklund: Rumors: Edm/Az talking MAJOR Swap, Philly, Habs interest in Tlusty, Methot+
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jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.25.2010

Oct 16 @ 12:21 PM ET
Tinordi, Plekanec + 2015 1st??
- Raven33


Dont think either player fits what Edmonton needs.
Raven33
Ottawa Senators
Location: Jenn, stop copying me as I copy Garth myself! - Andrew S.
Joined: 11.12.2008

Oct 16 @ 12:22 PM ET
Dont think either player fits what Edmonton needs.
- jake24242


I know but habs won't trade PK or Markov so...
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Oct 16 @ 12:23 PM ET
EXACILY what I asked the Montreal source. I am baffled by this.
- Eklund


FIXED
Erik6Karlsson5
Ottawa Senators
Location: It's Knuckle Puck Time.., NB
Joined: 01.23.2013

Oct 16 @ 12:23 PM ET
Rumours were that Methot turned down a $4.7 x 5 deal to stay in hometown Ottawa. I think him & his agent are lookin for a bit more like the Brooks Orpik deal.

Ottawa will most likely extend him at $5 x 5 after he returns from injury & has a clean bill of heath.

EDIT: I guess that's the 2014-2015 going rate for a true #3 D Man under the age of 30.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Oct 16 @ 12:24 PM ET
Probably a high level prospect or a mid-level prospect and a pick.

Easy to forget that he scored at a 40 goal pace just two years ago, and a 30 goal per season pace over his last 120 games.

- BINGO!


Would do that in a heartbeat if i were the Pens front office. Tlusty would be a force playing on Malkin's wing.
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Oct 16 @ 12:24 PM ET
Please... just stop...
- saskoil21


No hes right. I know you dont want to get fleeced in a deal but every team knows the Oilers need help on D and top 4 D men dont come cheap. The only ones who did this off season were given up out of cap constraints (Boychuk, Leddy)

If you want to get you have to give. You dont have much value to trade outside the obvious (Hall, Eberle, RNH, Nurse, Drais, Yam)
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Oct 16 @ 12:24 PM ET



Eakins is going to be fired before Edmonton makes a major trade.


ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Oct 16 @ 12:24 PM ET
How is that a dream? They arnt trading him for a Hal Gill there need is future top pairing D they have a ton of D that at bottom 4 pairing that are good. Its that they have no top pairing.
- jake24242



I agree with you that they aren't going to hand him away, but he's lost the value that comes along with a high level prospect when they haven't seen NHL action yet. Teams are wiling to pay more for more chance at an upside, even though it's a bigger risk when they haven't played yet. Once they've been in the league and haven't panned out as hoped teams look at the much lower chance that they ever will. Look at Kyle Turris for example (and no I'm not comparing Yakupov to turris as players).

Yakupov still has value obviously, but it's really taken a beating. In all honesty they'd probably have to add more to the trade to land a legitimate top 2 D, that's a big hole for a team to open up.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Oct 16 @ 12:25 PM ET
Rumours were that Methot turned down a $4.7 x 5 deal to stay in hometown Ottawa. I think him & his agent are lookin for a bit more like the Brooks Orpik deal.

Ottawa will most likely extend him at $5 x 5 after he returns from injury & has a clean bill of heath.

- Erik6Karlsson5


In all fairness, the Orpik deal is complete garbage. I like him as a player, but that contract is ridiculous.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Oct 16 @ 12:26 PM ET
Yakupov for Michalek, some prospect and a conditional pick?

No, no that's never happening

- truenewyorker


People continue to grossly overrate Yakupov
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 16 @ 12:26 PM ET
Myers for Yak.. Add parts where needed.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 16 @ 12:28 PM ET
On top of that why another centerman?? We have too many already.
- Dostie96


Tlusty took 12 faceoffs last season.

He's a winger. Not a center.
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Oct 16 @ 12:28 PM ET
Whats NATHAN BEAULIEU projected ceiling.
- jake24242


"Ceiling", I would say top pairing D. He's the best skater I've seen in a long, long time. But he's nowhere near being there yet, and it's hard to say whether it's probable at all with such limited NHL time. I'm not sure he helps Edmonton at all in the next year or two.
Erik6Karlsson5
Ottawa Senators
Location: It's Knuckle Puck Time.., NB
Joined: 01.23.2013

Oct 16 @ 12:28 PM ET
In all fairness, the Orpik deal is complete garbage. I like him as a player, but that contract is ridiculous.
- cap1681


Completely agree with you Cap, but if Orpik got that deal last summer from being a UFA, I can just imagine what Marc Methot would get from a team like Edmonton.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Oct 16 @ 12:28 PM ET
People continue to grossly overrate Yakupov
- Oneonta Penguin



Exactly....... Yakupov doesn't play defense.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Oct 16 @ 12:29 PM ET
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Oct 16 @ 12:29 PM ET
Myers for Yak++.. Add parts where needed.
- ImThatGuy

BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Oct 16 @ 12:29 PM ET
Would do that in a heartbeat if i were the Pens front office. Tlusty would be a force playing on Malkin's wing.
- cap1681


And signed to a reasonable contract.

I'm sure if Tlusty were to actually be available Rutherford would be calling Francis incessantly.
jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.25.2010

Oct 16 @ 12:32 PM ET
I know but habs won't trade PK or Markov so...
- Raven33


Wouldn't be interested in a vet like Markov anyway, Subban yes but of course hes not moving.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Oct 16 @ 12:32 PM ET
Would do that in a heartbeat if i were the Pens front office. Tlusty would be a force playing on Malkin's wing.
- cap1681


Dumoulin and a 3rd for Tlusty please.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Oct 16 @ 12:33 PM ET
And signed to a reasonable contract.

I'm sure if Tlusty were to actually be available Rutherford would be calling Francis incessantly.

- BINGO!


Yeah. If he becomes available, I can see the the Penguins bebeing the most logical landing spot.
jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.25.2010

Oct 16 @ 12:33 PM ET
I agree with you that they aren't going to hand him away, but he's lost the value that comes along with a high level prospect when they haven't seen NHL action yet. Teams are wiling to pay more for more chance at an upside, even though it's a bigger risk when they haven't played yet. Once they've been in the league and haven't panned out as hoped teams look at the much lower chance that they ever will. Look at Kyle Turris for example (and no I'm not comparing Yakupov to turris as players).

Yakupov still has value obviously, but it's really taken a beating. In all honesty they'd probably have to add more to the trade to land a legitimate top 2 D, that's a big hole for a team to open up.

- ehabs9


Very possible they may have to add. Good post.
docavalanche
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Dirty D, MI
Joined: 05.20.2008

Oct 16 @ 12:33 PM ET
yak for james tanner.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Oct 16 @ 12:34 PM ET
Dumoulin and a 3rd for Tlusty please.
- BINGO!


It would be done already.
jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.25.2010

Oct 16 @ 12:35 PM ET
Yak for Gardiner or Percy
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