yeah, but the oilers are generally terrible in advanced stats. so they're not really an argument there.

I'm not a huge advanced stats guy, but I assume even Travis Yost knows that teams full of players that give 100% and work well together will be good at keeping the puck.

Can you give me an example of a team that has bad chemistry, attitude and accountability that are Corsi darlings? I guess what I'm saying is that statistics in general are descriptive, not prescriptive.
- Morris

I don't think ud find one. And as u say, they probably go hand in hand. But it seems as though he might be suggesting that looking at advanced stats has to be totally secondary when we're gauging who to make a move for.

Is he a winner?
What's his work ethic like?
Is this guy gonna make an impact every night?

It scares the sh1t outta me to think we'd deal a star 65 point snipe for a 50 pt grinder. But is said grinder still battling, forechecking and making life miserable even when we're up by 3?
Is he goin to spear his grandma to get the puck even when we're down by 4?

I love Ebs, and I wouldn't trade that kind of talent lightly. But he's a skill player that is invisible for much of the night. Even when he does get on the board. It's just his game.

Those qualities I mentioned are pretty much the antithesis of him. I don't even mean that as a slight to him. It just is what it is. Maybe his style isn't what this team needs right now.

Funny part is though ; if we did get to that next level, his skill set/game is exactly the type we'd be looking for to get to the NEXT level

Chicken/egg

2 seconds and a 3rd I think. Deep draft coming up
- doon

We don't draft for poop after pick 22 anyways.

We don't draft for poop after pick 22 anyways.
- Oilfan19

Fair enough, but for 1 year it's steep.

Fair enough, but for 1 year it's steep.
- doon

It seems Bold though

yeah, but the oilers are generally terrible in advanced stats. so they're not really an argument there.

I'm not a huge advanced stats guy, but I assume even Travis Yost knows that teams full of players that give 100% and work well together will be good at keeping the puck.

Can you give me an example of a team that has bad chemistry, attitude and accountability that are Corsi darlings? I guess what I'm saying is that statistics in general are descriptive, not prescriptive.
- Morris

I don't think I really got my point across haha.

Take Fayne for example. Good advanced stats for the Devils last year, and everyone swooned over the signed and loved it. But you put him in a poopty situation on a team with bad chemistry/attitude/work ethic and it all goes to hell.

But I get what you are trying to say, which is kind of why I don't really like advanced stats in the first place.

It seems Bold though
- Oilfan19

I wish MacT would have done it. No arguments

I don't think ud find one. And as u say, they probably go hand in hand. But it seems as though he might be suggesting that looking at advanced stats has to be totally secondary when we're gauging who to make a move for.

Is he a winner?
What's his work ethic like?
Is this guy gonna make an impact every night?

It scares the sh1t outta me to think we'd deal a star 65 point snipe for a 50 pt grinder. But is said grinder still battling, forechecking and making life miserable even when we're up by 3?
Is he goin to spear his grandma to get the puck even when we're down by 4?

I love Ebs, and I wouldn't trade that kind of talent lightly. But he's a skill player that is invisible for much of the night. Even when he does get on the board. It's just his game.

Those qualities I mentioned are pretty much the antithesis of him. I don't even mean that as a slight to him. It just is what it is. Maybe his style isn't what this team needs right now.

Funny part is though ; if we did get to that next level, his skill set/game is exactly the type we'd be looking for to get to the NEXT level

Chicken/egg
- hugefemale dog77

Yes, thanks! haha....apparently i'm poopty at explaining myself haha

3 games into the season and now the answer to the woes is... drafting 1st overall

Not just that, but you get to let RNH play in his rightful role as a 2C (ouch for a 1st overall pick), and let the youngster Draisatl develop in the shelter of 3C by instantly anointing an 18 year old as the 1C.

Where do you guys get these bloggers?

if there's anything the oilers know how to do it's embrace the suck

if there's anything the oilers know how to do it's embrace the suck
- sushi

Yup. 5 cups....... That's all I got. (frank).

if there's anything the oilers know how to do it's embrace the suck
- sushi

you guys chased out the best goaltending tandom. all because the better team won in game 7 of the stanley cup finals.

you guys chased out the best goaltending tandom. all because the better team won in game 7 of the stanley cup finals.
- ChetManly

Yes Chet Yes!

3 games into the season and now the answer to the woes is... drafting 1st overall

Not just that, but you get to let RNH play in his rightful role as a 2C (ouch for a 1st overall pick), and let the youngster Draisatl develop in the shelter of 3C by instantly anointing an 18 year old as the 1C.

Where do you guys get these bloggers?
- 1979AD

hey I got no pb with McDavid 1C for the Oil

you guys chased out the best goaltending tandom. all because the better team won in game 7 of the stanley cup finals.
- ChetManly

Sick'em Chet!

hey I got no pb with McDavid 1C for the Oil
- AlEx_OiL

Honestly... Neither do i.

Honestly... Neither do i.
- HouseArrest187

It's just the bullpoop we have to deal with en route.

fire Eakins to try to save the season cause we are officially going no where with him at the helm.

if there's anything the oilers know how to do it's embrace the suck
- sushi

Embrace the riots

I'll settle for Dairy and nothing less.
- The-O-G

How about pig? I always figured you for a hog (frank)er!

It's just the bullpoop we have to deal with en route.
- ChetManly

I dont even want to think about another poop season

It's just the bullpoop we have to deal with en route.
- ChetManly

I can deal with that at any time having McDavid as the Oil 1C

I can deal with that at any time having McDavid as the Oil 1C
- AlEx_OiL

Unfortunately, it's not the most fool-proof of plans given the new lottery rules.

Yeah I think it could do a lot to change the culture. I also feel like we've got an organizational need for a top pairing dman, period.

Let's put names on it: we're willing to trade Eberle, Petry, and all manner of picks and prospects including a 1st in 2016). We want Dubinsky and Wiesnewski from Columbus. Huge hypothetical that we get it done, but in my mind there's no way that doesn't significantly change - improve - the culture.
- Morris

I would prefer Tyutin to the Wiz

you guys need a job?I see same people here day,afternoon,night,I'm hiring
- AlEx_OiL

It's just the bullpoop we have to deal with en route.
- ChetManly

Yep... Other teams have sucked harder, longer then us.... They don't catch nearly as much crap.