Not just stats, I hate replays too. If you can't divine literally all the information about a play at first glance, you don't deserve to understand it.
- BulliesPhan87

I don't wish for stats to invade my entertainment. I understand why management has interest in them.

But for me...ZZZZzzzzzzz

Kunitz-Goc-Duper.
- usethe1-2-2

Gotcha. Well that would mean we got some nice top 6 wingers then! I'd take that..

Corsi is wack

Gotcha. Well that would mean we got some nice top 6 wingers then! I'd take that..
- 87_71_11_29

At that point you have Bennett, Kapanen(hopefully), and Hornqvist all pushing top six. You have MAF and Martin leaving. Plenty of young talent and bottom six talent available. Pick up one decent top six left wing option and that forces those two to the third line. Or you trade for someone using Sutter and some of the insane D.

Kunitz and Duper don't have the skill level to be top 6 at 36+ years of age. A big part of their game is speed and physicallity.

What, 4 of them have been hired? Not sure if that is gobbled up.
- Ben37

I am curious if being a stat person on a pro team is a good job or not. Sure you get to work for the Pens, but it's not like you are taking shots at MAF on smoking breaks. Wife has a friend that works for the Pens and it's not that great apparently. If it's a 6 figure job and you love it, great. But not sure I would want to crunch #'s for 9-10hrs a day for a small salary.

Have you ever tried to eat four entire bloggers in one summer? It's not easy.
- BulliesPhan87

Jeffery Dahmer could have.

I am curious if being a stat person on a pro team is a good job or not. Sure you get to work for the Pens, but it's not like you are taking shots at MAF on smoking breaks. Wife has a friend that works for the Pens and it's not that great apparently. If it's a 6 figure job and you love it, great. But not sure I would want to crunch #'s for 9-10hrs a day for a small salary.
- sammy87

I was never great at math. I work in a field where the most math we do is simple addition and subtraction during the narcotic count. I couldn't do it. Now if Craig Adams ended up homeless with a crack addiction I could help him though.

I like Stempniak...don't get me wrong...but they went a different direction and Spaling was part of a trade. They got what they wanted/could from that trade and I don't see --- again -- how that money and Spaling's ability have become such a focal point around here.

It's stupid.

You really want the Penguins to win a cup...trade Malkin and Letang and get 4 players that equal their salary.
- icedog97

Just out of curiousity, what 4 players would you want that you think would make the Pens win a cup?

I am curious if being a stat person on a pro team is a good job or not. Sure you get to work for the Pens, but it's not like you are taking shots at MAF on smoking breaks. Wife has a friend that works for the Pens and it's not that great apparently. If it's a 6 figure job and you love it, great. But not sure I would want to crunch #'s for 9-10hrs a day for a small salary.
- sammy87

Try asbestos litigation for 9-10 hours a day. I'd rather tell people I work for the pens and sit in a dark room crunching numbers.

Jeffery Dahmer could have.
- Ben37

No way, it took him 13 years to eat 17 people. No way he does it in less than two years, not with his current numbers.

Try asbestos litigation for 9-10 hours a day. I'd rather tell people I work for the pens and sit in a dark room crunching numbers.
- usethe1-2-2

LOL that doesn't sound pleasant. I landscaped in high school and college, I literally shoveled crap for 10hrs a day. Had a great tan though!

No way, it took him 13 years to eat 17 people. No way he does it in less than two years, not with his current numbers.
- BulliesPhan87

You're a weirdo. I like it.

Yeah seriously, and why some people want Dupes on the 1st line for the remainder of his contract.
- sammy87

Yawn

I was never great at math. I work in a field where the most math we do is simple addition and subtraction during the narcotic count. I couldn't do it. Now if Craig Adams ended up homeless with a crack addiction I could help him though.
- Ben37

Pharm tech? Social work?

Pharm tech? Social work?
- ChrisMS

Social work is close. I work at a long term Housing center for homeless men.

So someone just retweeted an account that the teams of Kapanen and Sundqvist have been notified their players will be given try outs in the NHL?

EDIT: already identified as false, lol love and hate twitter so much

So someone just retweeted an account that the teams of Kapanen and Sundqvist have been notified their players will be given try outs in the NHL?

EDIT: already identified as false, lol love and hate twitter so much
- usethe1-2-2

who needs sources, just make it up as you go!

who needs sources, just make it up as you go!
- sammy87

Eklund and Hockey Insiderr have carved out decent niche's by doing that.

I like Stempniak...don't get me wrong...but they went a different direction and Spaling was part of a trade. They got what they wanted/could from that trade and I don't see --- again -- how that money and Spaling's ability have become such a focal point around here.

It's stupid.

You really want the Penguins to win a cup...trade Malkin and Letang and get 4 players that equal their salary.
- icedog97

I don't think it's stupid. It's pre-season debate. I imagine the reason Spaling is receiving this kind of debate is because he was supposed to more than a "throw-in" in a significant trade. You'd hope he'd be more than average. Like I said before, I'm keeping an open mind until I see him in the regular season.

I don't agree with your premise that trading Malkin and Letang are necessary to win a cup. First of all, I have no problem in moving Letang, but I don't think you'll get close to value for a guy with a recent history of stroke. Secondly, if you read Gunners blog regularly, you'll realize he advocates not over-paying for players that are easily replaceable for lesser dollar amounts. I don't understand why people get so worked up over that.

So far he's tabbed MAF, Spaling, Sutter, Adams and Scuds. Adams and Scuds are obvious, but the other three will earn a combined salary of 10.5 mil. If you replace those three with say... Greiss, Stempy and Goc, you'd save 7.4 mil a year. That would be a nice chunk of change to add.....oh I don't know.....maybe a top 6 wing +. Add self inflicted wounds like Scuds and Adams and that number jumps to 11.5. How's 2 top 6 wings sound?

Social work is close. I work at a long term Housing center for homeless men.
- Ben37

Is that you dad?

1-2-3.................................................................kidding.

So far he's tabbed MAF, Spaling, Sutter, Adams and Scuds. Adams and Scuds are obvious, but the other three will earn a combined salary of 10.5 mil. If you replace those three with say... Greiss, Stempy and Goc, you'd save 7.4 mil a year. That would be a nice chunk of change to add.....oh I don't know.....maybe a top 6 wing +. Add self inflicted wounds like Scuds and Adams and that number jumps to 11.5. How's 2 top 6 wings sound?
- madmike71

But Goc, Stempniak and Greiss aren't the equal of those players. Goc is good, but he's not Sutter. He doesn't have as much skill, he doesn't have as much speed, and he doesn't have as much offensive potential.

Stempniak isn't good enough to play top 6, and he's not really ideal as a third liner, either. He's okay defensively, but he's not Spaling. Spaling at 2 mil can play anywhere, be a key third liner or a fill-in top 6 guy, is great on the PK and does all the right things. That's not too much to ask out of a 2 mil a year guy.

Greiss has never started more than 25 games in the NHL, and he's played 2/3 of a playoff game. Not kicking Fleury to the curb in his last year over that. Was the Fleury deal of six years ago a sound deal? Probably not, but at the time I didn't have many complaints, and I didn't hear many either.

But Goc, Stempniak and Greiss aren't the equal of those players. Goc is good, but he's not Sutter. He doesn't have as much skill, he doesn't have as much speed, and he doesn't have as much offensive potential.

Stempniak isn't good enough to play top 6, and he's not really ideal as a third liner, either. He's okay defensively, but he's not Spaling. Spaling at 2 mil can play anywhere, be a key third liner or a fill-in top 6 guy, is great on the PK and does all the right things. That's not too much to ask out of a 2 mil a year guy.

Greiss has never started more than 25 games in the NHL, and he's played 2/3 of a playoff game. Not kicking Fleury to the curb in his last year over that. Was the Fleury deal of six years ago a sound deal? Probably not, but at the time I didn't have many complaints, and I didn't hear many either.
- hardnosed

Nicely put.

Just out of curiousity, what 4 players would you want that you think would make the Pens win a cup?
- j.boyd919

Just to go along with the game:
Malkin to the blues for backes and oshie
Letang to the jets for wheeler and Kane

The only thing I could really rhink of to keep this team competitive

Just to go along with the game:
Malkin to the blues for backes and oshie
Letang to the jets for wheeler and Kane

The only thing I could really rhink of to keep this team competitive
- drummer829

Malkin to the ducks for perry and kesler letang to the sens for bobby ryan

But Goc, Stempniak and Greiss aren't the equal of those players. Goc is good, but he's not Sutter. He doesn't have as much skill, he doesn't have as much speed, and he doesn't have as much offensive potential.

Stempniak isn't good enough to play top 6, and he's not really ideal as a third liner, either. He's okay defensively, but he's not Spaling. Spaling at 2 mil can play anywhere, be a key third liner or a fill-in top 6 guy, is great on the PK and does all the right things. That's not too much to ask out of a 2 mil a year guy.

Greiss has never started more than 25 games in the NHL, and he's played 2/3 of a playoff game. Not kicking Fleury to the curb in his last year over that. Was the Fleury deal of six years ago a sound deal? Probably not, but at the time I didn't have many complaints, and I didn't hear many either.
- hardnosed

Maybe you kick MAF to the curb because he's been incredibly unreliable come the most important time of the year. I mean, do you really know what player is going to show up this spring?

I'd argue Stempy is a better player than Spaling. Stempy actually has history of some decent offensive numbers. Spaling, not so much.

See, I'd accept the slight drop off in the bottom 6 to have my all world centers skating with players that actually belong in the top 6.