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Forums :: Blog World :: Eric Engels: Habs Toughest Decision is Tokarski over Budaj
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Muzzin might be superior to Seth Jones - James Tanner, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 2 @ 9:44 AM ET
i agree with your reasoning on Tokarski/Budaj. how can they can risk losing Tokarski to keep Budaj after what happened in May? they would look a bit incompetent and it seems like they would be making the decision for the wrong reasons, which is an injustice to the team.
- DoubleDown


If there's no trade worth doing for Tokarski before the season starts, I completely agree with you.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Oct 2 @ 9:45 AM ET
While I get your point, do you really think that, if Price goes down comes playoffs time, having Tokarski over Budaj will be that much of a difference in the end?
- Scabeh


playoff time? yes, a little. i don't think Montreal would have gotten the goaltending from Budaj they got from Tokarski against NY. and the bigger issue is if Price goes down for a month in the regular season. that's where the biggest difference would be.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Muzzin might be superior to Seth Jones - James Tanner, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 2 @ 9:45 AM ET
I'm not suggesting they should keep Tokarski.

I'm saying, if they trade Tokarski now, instead of taking the risk of losing him for nothing on waivers, they could always find a competent backup later in the year/at the deadline.

A team out of the playoffs, for example, could trade their backup on an expiring contract, for Budaj who's on an expiring contract as well.

- Pecafan Fan


Fair enough.
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 2 @ 9:45 AM ET
No.
- hscesq

did you have montreal wood sticks as a kid?
WaterBoy
Location: Don't worry I've seen everything, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Oct 2 @ 9:45 AM ET
Never checked.
- hscesq

WaterBoy
Location: Don't worry I've seen everything, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Oct 2 @ 9:46 AM ET
And be in the market for a backup goalie for the playoffs, since Budaj clearly can't get the job done when it matters?
- Pecafan Fan

Let's just hope Kredier doesn't take PRice's knees again.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Oct 2 @ 9:46 AM ET
I'm not suggesting they should keep Tokarski.

I'm saying, if they trade Tokarski now, instead of taking the risk of losing him for nothing on waivers, they could always find a competent backup later in the year/at the deadline.

A team out of the playoffs, for example, could trade their backup on an expiring contract, for Budaj who's on an expiring contract as well.

- Pecafan Fan


wasn't it you and other marty the other day saying that no one would even think about claiming Tokarski let alone trading for him?
Symba.007
Location: Caitlin > Kim -bigzby, ON
Joined: 03.23.2010

Oct 2 @ 9:46 AM ET
playoff time? yes, a little. i don't think Montreal would have gotten the goaltending from Budaj they got from Tokarski against NY. and the bigger issue is if Price goes down for a month in the regular season. that's where the biggest difference would be.
- DoubleDown

wasn't Price out for a good 3 weeks last year?
number_23
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Euuuuh, un porc-├ępic?
Joined: 10.15.2008

Oct 2 @ 9:47 AM ET
The seats in the press box are made of wood?
- hscesq





Press pine...

Press box... or pine... first time I've read 'press pine'.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 2 @ 9:47 AM ET
wasn't it you and other marty the other day saying that no one would even think about claiming Tokarski let alone trading for him?
- DoubleDown


I thought he'd be of no value, but since Lavoie said some teams called Bergevin regarding him, I have to go with a scenario that makes sense.
WaterBoy
Location: Don't worry I've seen everything, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Oct 2 @ 9:48 AM ET
I'm not suggesting they should keep Tokarski.

I'm saying, if they trade Tokarski now, instead of taking the risk of losing him for nothing on waivers, they could always find a competent backup later in the year/at the deadline.

A team out of the playoffs, for example, could trade their backup on an expiring contract, for Budaj who's on an expiring contract as well.

- Pecafan Fan

Or the Habs could sign Brodeur









*runs*
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 2 @ 9:48 AM ET
did you have montreal wood sticks as a kid?
- Fountain-San

Nope. But I still use their blades. Not easy to find.
WaterBoy
Location: Don't worry I've seen everything, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Oct 2 @ 9:49 AM ET
playoff time? yes, a little. i don't think Montreal would have gotten the goaltending from Budaj they got from Tokarski against NY. and the bigger issue is if Price goes down for a month in the regular season. that's where the biggest difference would be.
- DoubleDown

didn't Budaj do a good job when Price went down for a month last season ?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 2 @ 9:49 AM ET
didn't Budaj do a good job when Price went down for a month last season ?
- WaterBoy


Not really.
Symba.007
Location: Caitlin > Kim -bigzby, ON
Joined: 03.23.2010

Oct 2 @ 9:49 AM ET
I thought he'd be of no value, but since Lavoie said some teams called Bergevin regarding him, I have to go with a scenario that makes sense.
- Pecafan Fan

or teams called to find when the habs would send him down/be on waiver

or lavoie is full of poop
WaterBoy
Location: Don't worry I've seen everything, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Oct 2 @ 9:50 AM ET
wasn't it you and other marty the other day saying that no one would even think about claiming Tokarski let alone trading for him?
- DoubleDown

Claim yes.

Never said anything about trading him.

We probably did say that the secondary goalie market is ... well... not very bug.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 2 @ 9:51 AM ET
or teams called to find when the habs would send him down/be on waiver

or lavoie is full of poop

- Symba.007


I have to give him credit, he seems to be pretty well connected in the last few years.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Muzzin might be superior to Seth Jones - James Tanner, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 2 @ 9:51 AM ET
didn't Budaj do a good job when Price went down for a month last season ?
- WaterBoy


Not really....

And I think this was considered heavily when they decided to go with Tokarski vs the Rangers.
Symba.007
Location: Caitlin > Kim -bigzby, ON
Joined: 03.23.2010

Oct 2 @ 9:51 AM ET
Claim yes.

Never said anything about trading him.

We probably did say that the secondary goalie market is ... well... not very bug.

- WaterBoy

maringouin?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Muzzin might be superior to Seth Jones - James Tanner, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 2 @ 9:51 AM ET
I have to give him credit, he seems to be pretty well connected in the last few years.
- Pecafan Fan



L'INFORMATEUR!
WaterBoy
Location: Don't worry I've seen everything, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Oct 2 @ 9:51 AM ET
maringouin?
- Symba.007

Symba.007
Location: Caitlin > Kim -bigzby, ON
Joined: 03.23.2010

Oct 2 @ 9:52 AM ET
I have to give him credit, he seems to be pretty well connected in the last few years.
- Pecafan Fan

he gets on my nerve, I can't stand him but you are right, he has good connections.
Habs Talk
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 10.03.2005

Oct 2 @ 9:52 AM ET
playoff time? yes, a little. i don't think Montreal would have gotten the goaltending from Budaj they got from Tokarski against NY. and the bigger issue is if Price goes down for a month in the regular season. that's where the biggest difference would be.
- DoubleDown


this is really what it comes down to. how can they justify what they did last year if they believe Budaj's a better option should that scenario unfold? seems they made that call already, no?
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 2 @ 9:53 AM ET
Nope. But I still use their blades. Not easy to find.
- hscesq

saw the end of the last thread.

you should get a composite shaft and use wood blades. that will bring you out of the dark ages but still maintain some weight on the stick.
WaterBoy
Location: Don't worry I've seen everything, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Oct 2 @ 9:55 AM ET
this is really what it comes down to. how can they justify what they did last year if they believe Budaj's a better option should that scenario unfold? seems they made that call already, no?
- EricEngels

The way I see it, Budaj had played bad and Toka stepped inand got hot and ket the job until the Habs got eliminated.

Doesn't mean that the Habs brass think that Budaj is not as good as Toka.
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