HankdaTank
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Location: Cut City, NJ Joined: 04.10.2012
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Simmer's comin for you... - Crimsoninja
3...4 and he's on the floor |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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3...4 and he's on the floor - HankdaTank
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mdw7413
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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- TPC
Put a beating on those Saints last night , although they had me a little nervous till that awesome fake punt. |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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Put a beating on those Saints last night , although they had me a little nervous till that awesome fake punt. - mdw7413
Yea that was nice to see. Don't know how long it lasts but I am going to ride this streak as long as possible |
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MeltingPlastic
New York Rangers |
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Location: outside philthadelphia, PA Joined: 04.17.2007
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Can't wait for tonight.. need some fodder for office banter! |
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tbreinold
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Location: NJ Joined: 02.14.2007
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Boston Bruins @NHLBruins 39s
BREAKING NEWS: #NHLBruins sign defenseman Torey Krug and Reilly Smith to one-year contracts. Read official release: http://bbru.in/1u5WzaP - jimbro83
Thank god...totally forgot the draft was last night and Auto pic gave me Krug. Glad he isn't on his way to KHL. |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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Thank god...totally forgot the draft was last night and Auto pic gave me Krug. Glad he isn't on his way to KHL. - tbreinold
I have way to many western conference players. I won't be awake late enough to see how my team is doing most nights
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I have way to many western conference players. I won't be awake late enough to see how my team is doing most nights
- TPC
I've got duclair so I basically won the league already |
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MeltingPlastic
New York Rangers |
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Location: outside philthadelphia, PA Joined: 04.17.2007
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Thank god...totally forgot the draft was last night and Auto pic gave me Krug. Glad he isn't on his way to KHL. - tbreinold
I was going to pick him with my last pick and saw he was gone and was confused.. then realized it was probably an autopick lol |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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Steve Zipay @stevezipay 26s
#NYR probable lines vs Flyers tonight: Kreider-Brass-Zuke; Nash-Miller-MSL; Glass-Hayes-Fast; Haggerty-Mueller-Duclair |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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I've got duclair so I basically won the league already - RAGSareDANGERus
haha yea I remember that. Well Jimbo won the league with Kreider
I loaded up with late youngsters with Granlund, Johnny Gaudreau, and Tyler Toffoli |
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Steve Zipay @stevezipay 26s
#NYR probable lines vs Flyers tonight: Kreider-Brass-Zuke; Nash-Miller-MSL; Glass-Hayes-Fast; Haggerty-Mueller-Duclair - jimbro83
Looks like what our top 6 could look like on opening night. |
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haha yea I remember that. Well Jimbo won the league with Kreider
I loaded up with late youngsters with Granlund, Johnny Gaudreau, and Tyler Toffoli - TPC
Whoever drafted andersen really screwed me. My plan was to have both st. Louis' goalie and both of anaheims goalies. |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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Whoever drafted andersen really screwed me. My plan was to have both st. Louis' goalie and both of anaheims goalies. - RAGSareDANGERus
Yea goalies were flying off the board. I have to use Roberto Louongo as 1 of my two starters
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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Pat Leonard summarized the Duclair scenarios:
DUCLAIR SCENARIOS
OK, so I briefly listed a couple main points about Duclair’s situation in my initial post, but reader response indicated to me that several people had different understandings of his situation, and that I probably hadn’t explained it well enough.
So here is my best attempt to explain what the Rangers are looking at contractually when they evaluate whether or not to keep Duclair on their regular season roster:
1. Duclair is 19 years old so he is not eligible to play in the AHL this season. If he is kept on the NHL roster, he cannot be sent back down to the Hartford Wolf Pack. He can only be sent back to his junior team. If he is sent to his junior team, whether during the preseason or the regular season, he most likely stays there for the rest of the season, because recalls from juniors are much more difficult – they may only be allowed to occur on an emergency basis, I believe.
2. If Duclair makes this season’s NHL roster at any point, even for one game, the Rangers have to cut a player under contract to remain at the 50-player limit for contracts. Duclair signed an entry-level deal with the Rangers on Jan. 2, 2014, but it is not officially on the books yet because he hasn’t turned pro. If he turns pro now, the Rangers would have 51 players under contract and would need to get rid of someone else to trim back to 50.
3. Duclair signed his three-year entry-level contract in January, but when he continued playing in juniors that season, his contract did what is called an “entry-level slide” for the 2013-14 season – everything moved back one year. So right now his three-year contract looks like this (2014-15 season is Year 1; 2015-16 season is Year 2; 2016-17 season is Year 3 - link is to Capgeek.com breakdown).
4. OK, so stay with me. This is where it gets confusing. Typically, Duclair’s contract would “slide” another full year ahead if he stayed in juniors this season, pushing the entire three-year deal back again. However, because Duclair did not sign until Jan. 2 – missing the Dec. 31, 2013 deadline – he does not get a second slide year. This means that no matter whether he plays in the NHL or juniors this season, Duclair will have only two years remaining on his entry-level deal after this season. He therefore will become eligible for restricted free agency in 2017 no matter what, without arbitration rights. It was reported that Duclair’s camp wanted it that way, which I don’t understand but will try to learn more about.
5. So we’ve established that Duclair’s contract will have only two years remaining on it after this season. That leaves two scenarios for this season: Duclair makes the team, the Rangers cut a player to stay at 50 contracts, and pay him for the first year of a three-year contract; OR, Duclair returns to juniors and the first year of this three-year deal disappears, the Rangers don’t need to cut a player, and the team doesn’t have to pay for it.
6. There is a way, however, that Duclair can make the Rangers roster but not force them to pay for that first contract year: Duclair can play in up to nine NHL games before returning to juniors without that Year One of the contract kicking in. The drawback of that, though, is that the team would have to cut a player to remain at the 50-player contract limit once Duclair played even one game.
This is my understanding. I hope you’re less confused, not more confused! |
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NYRangers1124
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Location: Hoboken, NJ Joined: 07.24.2008
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Pat Leonard @PLeonardNYDN 2m
J.T. Miller just hit Lundqvist in neck/collarbone/sidemask w/ wrist shot. Lundqvist furious. Shaking it off. Appears OK though. Gulp #NYR
lol goalies..... |
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NYRangers1124
New York Rangers |
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Location: Hoboken, NJ Joined: 07.24.2008
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Pat Leonard summarized the Duclair scenarios:
DUCLAIR SCENARIOS
6. There is a way, however, that Duclair can make the Rangers roster but not force them to pay for that first contract year: Duclair can play in up to nine NHL games before returning to juniors without that Year One of the contract kicking in. The drawback of that, though, is that the team would have to cut a player to remain at the 50-player contract limit once Duclair played even one game. - jimbro83
i think that is the option we'll most likely see happen.
he'll get a cup of coffee, and unless he completely dominates he goes back to the Q |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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Pat Leonard @PLeonardNYDN 2m
J.T. Miller just hit Lundqvist in neck/collarbone/sidemask w/ wrist shot. Lundqvist furious. Shaking it off. Appears OK though. Gulp #NYR
lol goalies..... - NYRangers1124
JT is fired up this camp, thank goodness Hank's ok |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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i think that is the option we'll most likely see happen.
he'll get a cup of coffee, and unless he completely dominates he goes back to the Q - NYRangers1124
Rangers need a good 2 for 1 one trade right now. |
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MeltingPlastic
New York Rangers |
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Location: outside philthadelphia, PA Joined: 04.17.2007
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RE to Jimbo's post.
Makes you wonder if his Agent was really smart and said sign this after Jan 1st, you'll get your bridge deal and UFA status quicker.. More money! |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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Rangers need a good 2 for 1 one trade right now. - jimbro83
Hell they have enough depth, cutting 1 of the other contracts wouldn't be the end of the world. If Duclair is one of the best 23, he better be on the opening night roster. |
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RE to Jimbo's post.
Makes you wonder if his Agent was really smart and said sign this after Jan 1st, you'll get your bridge deal and UFA status quicker.. More money! - MeltingPlastic
Brooks said his agent and duclair did this on purpose. |
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gravey914
New York Rangers |
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Location: Yaphank, NY Joined: 05.07.2010
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RE to Jimbo's post.
Makes you wonder if his Agent was really smart and said sign this after Jan 1st, you'll get your bridge deal and UFA status quicker.. More money! - MeltingPlastic
It could also be a way for them to try to force the Rangers hand. Basically they say, "look, if you don't have the kid on the roster, a year of the ELC vanishes." And in the salary cap era, ELC's are valuable. So having a guy with a 2 year ELC is less desirable than a guy with a 3 year ELC. It may not be much pressure on Sather, but I'm sure the thought is in the back of his mind. |
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HankdaTank
New York Rangers |
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Location: Cut City, NJ Joined: 04.10.2012
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Yea goalies were flying off the board. I have to use Roberto Louongo as 1 of my two starters
- TPC
I missed it again, thought it was at 8:30 not 7:30, did end up with Rask and Smith plus Seguin and some good youngsters including Drouin, Kuznetsov, Yakupov and Barkov, I wanted either Kreider or Hags but probably better off I don't touch any Rangers, I can't believe what I've done to Shady McCoy |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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Rick Nash looks like he lost 30 pounds in 3 months. Looked awesome friday night
He is gonna have a monster year #CanFeelIt |
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