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nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Sep 26 @ 12:20 PM ET
I think the only thing any of us can ask for is to give Kapanen a shot. Otherwise, especially with Beau out, we literally have no other viable option, imo.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I just really want a pens jersey with 42 on it. That has been my hockey number for over 20 yrs and I have been waiting for a pen to wear it... lol
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Sep 26 @ 12:21 PM ET
Time to see if you guys really improved your depth I guess.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Sep 26 @ 12:22 PM ET
I think the only thing any of us can ask for is to give Kapanen a shot. Otherwise, especially with Beau out, we literally have no other viable option, imo.
- YouMeAndDupuis9


Injury gave way to Olli Maatta last season making the team. Who is to say Kapanen doesn't take advantage of a similiar situation. Or Sundqvist.

usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Sep 26 @ 12:24 PM ET
Time to see if you guys really improved your depth I guess.
- rangerdanger94


Yup, we will see. Rangers are being tested by the bug as well. Tough camps this season for the east.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 26 @ 12:24 PM ET
Freak accident. Hit a rut and his knee buckled. That could happen to anyone. Damn shame he was playing really well too.

I wonder, if the injury is long term does GMJR feel the need to make a move early? I would think so. If just to secure some depth and rid ourselves of an extra D.

- usethe1-2-2


I would think so. We obviously don't know the severity at the moment but we all saw how long a knee injury can take to heal (Dupuis). Kapanen will "benefit" from this injury I think in terms of getting an extended look. But GMJR has no choice but to make a D for F swap at some point now. A 35 year old Kunitz and Patric Hornqvist are the only proven top 6 wings on the team.

Edit - some may count Dupuis, I do not. Not trying to start that debate again though...
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Sep 26 @ 12:25 PM ET
No i feel HCMJ knows those guys can b replaced with younger guys... but I know he won't do poop with dupes bc everyone thinks he is awesome and perfect for sid. Apparently dupes is so good he won't be able to help the 3rd line and can only help sid...

I really don't wish injury on any player. Just tired of this whole kuni sid dupes line being the best ever and they should never touch it...

- nh4442


The fact is dupuis has had great chemistry with Sid and knows where to be at all times. His hockey IQ is good and meshes well with sid and kuni. Then you also have the fact that there is no one who can take that spot. Kapanen maybe can, but from what I've seen, he may not be ready
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 26 @ 12:26 PM ET
Injury gave way to Olli Maatta last season making the team. Who is to say Kapanen doesn't take advantage of a similiar situation. Or Sundqvist.
- usethe1-2-2



It is definitely possible. We should know after their 9 game tryouts. But wing was already a weakness so I would still hedge my bets and deal a D man for a forward if I were Old Man Ruth.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Sep 26 @ 12:29 PM ET
It is definitely possible. We should know after their 9 game tryouts. But wing was already a weakness so I would still hedge my bets and deal a D man for a forward if I were Old Man Ruth.
- YouMeAndDupuis9


A deal shouldn't be made until bennett's injury status is clearer and they know exactly how long until he is back
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Sep 26 @ 12:31 PM ET
It is definitely possible. We should know after their 9 game tryouts. But wing was already a weakness so I would still hedge my bets and deal a D man for a forward if I were Old Man Ruth.
- YouMeAndDupuis9


That's what I'm thinking. I don't see many in house options at this point.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Sep 26 @ 12:31 PM ET
Why couldn't dupes hit that rut on the ice...smh now he is never going to be on the 3rd line where he belongs.
- nh4442

drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Sep 26 @ 12:31 PM ET
Markstrom on waivers. I Always thought he would be a stud goalie by now.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Sep 26 @ 12:31 PM ET
A deal shouldn't be made until bennett's injury status is clearer and they know exactly how long until he is back
- drummer829


Yah, but the hypothetical stated that if he is to miss significant time then this is the time to make a deal.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 26 @ 12:34 PM ET
Yah, but the hypothetical stated that if he is to miss significant time then this is the time to make a deal.
- usethe1-2-2


Right. Not like we need to make a trade today. But I was advocating this type of move before the BB injury. And even if Kapanen can pull a "Maatta" and play this year, I still think we need more forward depth anyway. Harrington, Dumoulin, Samuelsson, and Martin should all be in play.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Sep 26 @ 12:43 PM ET
Right. Not like we need to make a trade today. But I was advocating this type of move before the BB injury. And even if Kapanen can pull a "Maatta" and play this year, I still think we need more forward depth anyway. Harrington, Dumoulin, Samuelsson, and Martin should all be in play.
- YouMeAndDupuis9


Martin makes the team much better and no other defenseman could replace what he brings. He gives you a better shot at the SC so you keep him. Trading him now would be for minimal value given the fact he's a free agent next year. By this logic, the pens would have traded Kunitz and hoped that Kapanen can replace him immediately
Bradlee3
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tanev hit was clean.
Joined: 06.30.2012

Sep 26 @ 12:45 PM ET
Yah, but the hypothetical stated that if he is to miss significant time then this is the time to make a deal.
- usethe1-2-2

True but teams will try to take advantage if we do, knowing that we're in a bind. Not much we can do about it, just saying ...
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 26 @ 12:46 PM ET
Martin makes the team much better and no other defenseman could replace what he brings. He gives you a better shot at the SC so you keep him. Trading him now would be for minimal value given the fact he's a free agent next year. By this logic, the pens would have traded Kunitz and hoped that Kapanen can replace him immediately
- drummer829


I get your point but Kunitz doesn't have 9 talented wingers in the pipeline behind him. Martin is an excellent defenseman but you have to give up something of value to get something of value. I know hes a UFA after this season but you can package him and get a good, long term top 6 winger.

And its not only this year but the long term outlook on forwards doesn't look good.
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

Sep 26 @ 12:46 PM ET
NOOOOOOO Bennett is hurt
- usethe1-2-2


Someone must have looked at him for a minute.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Sep 26 @ 12:52 PM ET
I get your point but Kunitz doesn't have 9 talented wingers in the pipeline behind him. Martin is an excellent defenseman but you have to give up something of value to get something of value. I know hes a UFA after this season but you can package him and get a good, long term top 6 winger.

And its not only this year but the long term outlook on forwards doesn't look good.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


The point is no one will replace Martin right away. Even if you package him for a top 6 guy, you then create a hole in your defense and put WAY to much hope on the prospects. The same question marks everyone has on dupuis coming back could be said about maatta. Maybe at the deadline a d prospect emerges to take Martin's role, but right now he's our best defenseman based on last years play
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Sep 26 @ 12:56 PM ET
The point is no one will replace Martin right away. Even if you package him for a top 6 guy, you then create a hole in your defense and put WAY to much hope on the prospects. The same question marks everyone has on dupuis coming back could be said about maatta. Maybe at the deadline a d prospect emerges to take Martin's role, but right now he's our best defenseman based on last years play
- drummer829


There are only 2 options with Martin. You either trade him now, when you can get a top 6 player, or he plays the season and walks next summer. Trading him at the deadline won't be an option, because you will only get picks or prospects then, which won't help the team in a playoff run.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Sep 26 @ 1:02 PM ET
Not sure if I'm more or less worries that it's his knee this time and not his wrist. Dammit! Every year I say it's gonna be Beau's year and every year he dies!
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Sep 26 @ 1:05 PM ET
Reported on Stan Savarn show that per Mike Johnson that Bennett's injury "May not be as serious as it looked." He will update us later.
s0rcerer1984
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, VA
Joined: 07.03.2008

Sep 26 @ 1:07 PM ET
Reported on Stan Savarn show that per Mike Johnson that Bennett's injury "May not be as serious as it looked." He will update us later.
- stevens87


I really pray to God it is a high-ankle sprain or something. Those suck, but i'd sure as hell take 4-6 weeks over 4-6 months.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Sep 26 @ 1:08 PM ET
Not sure if I'm more or less worries that it's his knee this time and not his wrist. Dammit! Every year I say it's gonna be Beau's year and every year he dies!
- Victoro311


GMJR said its a skate cut from Kapanen. Good thing the beat writers know how hockey works. Noncontact my @$$
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Sep 26 @ 1:11 PM ET
GMJR said its a skate cut from Kapanen. Good thing the beat writers know how hockey works. Noncontact my @$$
- usethe1-2-2


Dammit is it a blown knee or a laceration?!? Screw the media man. Confusing people since day 1...

Guess Kap must really want Beau's spot.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Sep 26 @ 1:15 PM ET
GMJR said its a skate cut from Kapanen. Good thing the beat writers know how hockey works. Noncontact my @$$
- usethe1-2-2

i know, the way they describe it made it sound like bennett was skating and a sniper hit him from the rafters of Consol. Getting hit by another guy's skate is a little bit different.

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