The Blues would really be trading low with those two at this point. I think both are better than they looked at times last year. I'm just not sure that's in the best interest of the long term. Paajarvi had to reboot after his mishandling, but it can be done. I just wish he could go to Chicago and dominate for awhile with some of those young players, then come back toward the middle/end of the season with confidence.

By then, Berglund may increase his trade value as well.
- bluenoter

APPARENTLY OTHER TEAMS COVET BERGY I HAVE SEEN SOME OIL FANS ASK FOR BERGY FOR YAK.

I DONT SEE IT BUT I HOPE A YEAR ON THE WING WILL HELP BERGLUND BECOME THE PLAYER WE THOUGHT WE HAD.

20-42-74
17-26-91
LINDSTROM-12-21
40-29-75

I'm more of a top 9 guy these days and don't worry about top 6.

20-26-Mueller
17-12-91
21-42-74
29-40-75

Lindstrom healthy scratch

I'm more of a top 9 guy these days and don't worry about top 6.

20-26-Mueller
17-12-91
21-42-74
29-40-75

Lindstrom healthy scratch
- bluenoter

WOW YOU HAVE HIGH HOPES FOR MUELLER

I DO AS WELL BUT I JUST THINK HITCH IS A CREATURE OF HABIT AND WILL PLAY HIS GUYS FIRST.

I SEE MUELLER AS THE HEALTHY SCRATCH AND PAAJARVI TRADED OR A HEALTHY SCRATCH AS WELL.

Can Paajarvi be sent down without clearing waivers?
- bluenoter

No, he would have to pass through waivers.

Well, earlier in the summer, Hitch mentioned pairs when discussing forwards. In that conversation he mentioned Steen and Lindstrom. So I could see those two with Stastny as well. Also, I'm intrigued on reuniting Lehtera and Tarasenko from their KHL days. We all know Schwartz works well with 91 already. Also, Oshie has chemistry with Backes and Berglund, could be a comfortable fit for the puck possessing, big bodied Swede. I place Mueller there b/c I believe he may suprise some folks during camp. It would play to his strength since Steen is very solid defensively and Stastny is no Miro Satin either. Mueller won't be in the top 6 of forwards for the Blues in scoring, but he could easily fit in the top 9.

Well, earlier in the summer, Hitch mentioned pairs when discussing forwards. In that conversation he mentioned Steen and Lindstrom. So I could see those two with Stastny as well. Also, I'm intrigued on reuniting Lehtera and Tarasenko from their KHL days. We all know Schwartz works well with 91 already. Also, Oshie has chemistry with Backes and Berglund, could be a comfortable fit for the puck possessing, big bodied Swede. I place Mueller there b/c I believe he may suprise some folks during camp. It would play to his strength since Steen is very solid defensively and Stastny is no Miro Satin either. Mueller won't be in the top 6 of forwards for the Blues in scoring, but he could easily fit in the top 9.
- bluenoter

AGREED AND GREAT LOGIC

I JUST DONT SEE HITCH USING LOGIC

I LIKE THE IDEA OF ROLLING 3 LINES EQUALLY AND KEEPING THE FOURTH LINE OFF THE ICE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE

AGREED AND GREAT LOGIC

I JUST DONT SEE HITCH USING LOGIC

I LIKE THE IDEA OF ROLLING 3 LINES EQUALLY AND KEEPING THE FOURTH LINE OFF THE ICE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE
- sycsam

wtf is wrong with your keyboard, that button left of the A button will make you type like a normal person

wtf is wrong with your keyboard, that button left of the A button will make you type like a normal person
- Gerk

SCHWARTZ WILL BE SIGNED AND I FEEL PAAJARVI WILL BE TRADED WITH BERGLUND AND JASKIN WILL MAKE THE CLUB
- sycsam

Dude your caps is stuck on

WOW YOU HAVE HIGH HOPES FOR MUELLER

I DO AS WELL BUT I JUST THINK HITCH IS A CREATURE OF HABIT AND WILL PLAY HIS GUYS FIRST.

I SEE MUELLER AS THE HEALTHY SCRATCH AND PAAJARVI TRADED OR A HEALTHY SCRATCH AS WELL.
- sycsam

I wouldnt be shocked to see Mueller sneak into your top 6 halfway through the year. He has shown in the past (with duchene) that he is a dangerous winger when playing on a quick tempo offensive center.

In my mind he still would have been an Avalanche if he didnt get his concussion issues slowing him down. WHen he lost confidence to play down low in the corners, he became useless and couldnt stay healthy. But from what it appears he is over his issues, playing healthy, and starting to play the game taht made him so dangerous of a shooter with Dutch.

I wouldnt be shocked to see Mueller sneak into your top 6 halfway through the year. He has shown in the past (with duchene) that he is a dangerous winger when playing on a quick tempo offensive center.

In my mind he still would have been an Avalanche if he didnt get his concussion issues slowing him down. WHen he lost confidence to play down low in the corners, he became useless and couldnt stay healthy. But from what it appears he is over his issues, playing healthy, and starting to play the game taht made him so dangerous of a shooter with Dutch.
- DDM-Coga

To me, he is a very low risk, very high reward player for the Blues. If he turns out to be nothing, no big deal. At the same time, he could come out and be great with some of the guys that he would be potentially playing with.

Looking forward to some Blues hockey really soon.

To me, he is a very low risk, very high reward player for the Blues. If he turns out to be nothing, no big deal. At the same time, he could come out and be great with some of the guys that he would be potentially playing with.

Looking forward to some Blues hockey really soon.
- carcus

A very improved, better odds Cheechoo gamble imho.

So many forwards

What is the point of bringing in Bisonette? we still have to sign Schwartz? Are we really trying to stockpile Chicago that much? As it sits right now we don't have enough money to sign Schwartz. I think we have 2.7 left and Army has said we will not be at cap going into the season as it handcuffs a team as to what moves they can and cannot make. With that being said it looks like Paajarvi might be on his way out as he would be taken on waivers. What kind of pick do you think we could get for Paajarvi?

my lineup going forward with Schwartz signed

Oshie Stastny Backes
Schwartz Lehtera Tarasenko
Berglund Steen Lindstrom
Ott Lappy Reaves

4th line replacements Mueller and Paajarvi to start the season. Jaskin is exempt so he will start in Chicago.

Just not sure how the Blues can sign Schwartz and sign have cap room to make moves. What Happens if Bisonette plays well and they give him a contract.

We have too many players right now which is never a problem but when ! of your best players from last season is still not signed it makes me worried.

What is the point of bringing in Bisonette? we still have to sign Schwartz? Are we really trying to stockpile Chicago that much? As it sits right now we don't have enough money to sign Schwartz. I think we have 2.7 left and Army has said we will not be at cap going into the season as it handcuffs a team as to what moves they can and cannot make. With that being said it looks like Paajarvi might be on his way out as he would be taken on waivers. What kind of pick do you think we could get for Paajarvi?

my lineup going forward with Schwartz signed

Oshie Stastny Backes
Schwartz Lehtera Tarasenko
Berglund Steen Lindstrom
Ott Lappy Reaves

4th line replacements Mueller and Paajarvi to start the season. Jaskin is exempt so he will start in Chicago.

Just not sure how the Blues can sign Schwartz and sign have cap room to make moves. What Happens if Bisonette plays well and they give him a contract.

We have too many players right now which is never a problem but when ! of your best players from last season is still not signed it makes me worried.
- BluesDroogie

I wouldn't worry about Biz. If they give him a contract it will be a two way, league min deal. If he is on the Blues roster, he will be replacing someone with a bigger cap hit.

Schwartz well get signed. They will trade someone if needed, but I still see a bridge deal for Schwartz with a cap hit of 2.5 M, two years.

I wouldn't worry about Biz. If they give him a contract it will be a two way, league min deal. If he is on the Blues roster, he will be replacing someone with a bigger cap hit.

Schwartz well get signed. They will trade someone if needed, but I still see a bridge deal for Schwartz with a cap hit of 2.5 M, two years.
- carcus

No problem with that deal. If Schwartz signed that right now, the Blue would have less than 300 k going into the season and Army will not let that happen. Please trade Lappy Or Ott. Ott brings a little more to the table but his contract is a little high. Lappy only has a 1.1 hit, trading him would not bring us much flexibility.

People keep saying Blues have 2.7 in cap space to sign Schwartz. That's wrong. Blues have 3.4 (minimum) to sign Schwartz. That is plenty, and there is no need to extra space after we get Schwartz signed.

People keep saying Blues have 2.7 in cap space to sign Schwartz. That's wrong. Blues have 3.4 (minimum) to sign Schwartz. That is plenty, and there is no need to extra space after we get Schwartz signed.
- Antilles

all depends on who you send down right, Porter gives you 3.5m, but if Lappy goes on waivers and is in the AHL, even with the recapture peanilty its still a savings, 3.7m in cap space.

Its like the Avs, they have more cap for what they are showing now on cap geek. The will have an open day roster of around 3m in cap vs the 1.7m listed now.

all depends on who you send down right, Porter gives you 3.5m, but if Lappy goes on waivers and is in the AHL, even with the recapture peanilty its still a savings, 3.7m in cap space.

Its like the Avs, they have more cap for what they are showing now on cap geek. The will have an open day roster of around 3m in cap vs the 1.7m listed now.
- DDM-Coga

Yep, although Porter being sent down would be replaced with another forward around the same salary. It's actually which of the 8 D get sent down. Butler is most likely at 650k.

Lapierre isn't going anywhere. He is pretty well locked into the 4th line center. He gets a spot because he provides solid minutes for a 4th liner, while also killing penalties so better players don't have to. Only way he gets bumped from the roster is if it's by another center who Hitch trusts on the PK.

all depends on who you send down right, Porter gives you 3.5m, but if Lappy goes on waivers and is in the AHL, even with the recapture peanilty its still a savings, 3.7m in cap space.

Its like the Avs, they have more cap for what they are showing now on cap geek. The will have an open day roster of around 3m in cap vs the 1.7m listed now.
- DDM-Coga

This is what I am hoping for right now. Leaves almost $1M in space, and there are several guys who can be called up and fill in nicely.

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Jaden Schwartz ($2.500m) / Paul Stastny ($7.000m) / Vladimir Tarasenko ($0.900m)
Alexander Steen ($5.800m) / David Backes ($4.500m) / T.J. Oshie ($4.175m)
Patrik Berglund ($3.700m) / Jori Lehtera ($2.750m) / Peter Mueller ($0.700m)
Steve Ott ($2.600m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.100m) / Ryan Reaves ($1.125m)
Magnus Paajarvi ($1.200m) / Joakim Lindstrom ($0.700m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Alex Pietrangelo ($6.500m) / Jay Bouwmeester ($5.400m)
Kevin Shattenkirk ($4.250m) / Barret Jackman ($3.167m)
Carl Gunnarsson ($2.950m) / Jordan Leopold ($2.250m)
Ian Cole ($0.825m) /
GOALTENDERS
Brian Elliott ($2.500m)
Jake Allen ($0.800m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$700,000
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,091,667; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $908,333

Yep, although Porter being sent down would be replaced with another forward around the same salary. It's actually which of the 8 D get sent down. Butler is most likely at 650k.

Lapierre isn't going anywhere. He is pretty well locked into the 4th line center. He gets a spot because he provides solid minutes for a 4th liner, while also killing penalties so better players don't have to. Only way he gets bumped from the roster is if it's by another center who Hitch trusts on the PK.
- Antilles

I didnt think Lappy would be going anywhere as well, but bc of the depth (Mueller, BizNasty signing for cheap) you could afford to pay Schwartz in the 3m range and still have flexbility to move Lappiere if you really had to.

I think you get Schwartz under contract, demote 1 dman for your 23man roster and hold onto the forward depth. Just in case you have injuries with Allen/Elliott. You could look at a goalie trade by moving an Ott/Lappy/Maggie midseason. Lots of options of upgrades/trades with the forwards without having to burn top 2015 draft picks

I didnt think Lappy would be going anywhere as well, but bc of the depth (Mueller, BizNasty signing for cheap) you could afford to pay Schwartz in the 3m range and still have flexbility to move Lappiere if you really had to.

I think you get Schwartz under contract, demote 1 dman for your 23man roster and hold onto the forward depth. Just in case you have injuries with Allen/Elliott. You could look at a goalie trade by moving an Ott/Lappy/Maggie midseason. Lots of options of upgrades/trades with the forwards without having to burn top 2015 draft picks
- DDM-Coga

Oh, good. Thanks Miller!



BizNasty has not signed yet. But if he does with the Blues, yes it will be cheap.

Oh, good. Thanks Miller!



BizNasty has not signed yet. But if he does with the Blues, yes it will be cheap.
- carcus

oh thats already sent to Buff? Brutal. I thought it was the 2014 pick.
I dont see the point of signing Biz, when you have a guy like Porter for cheap and a better fighting in Reaves already. All he would do would do is sell Jerseys if he made the team

oh thats already sent to Buff? Brutal. I thought it was the 2014 pick.
I dont see the point of signing Biz, when you have a guy like Porter for cheap and a better fighting in Reaves already. All he would do would do is sell Jerseys if he made the team
- DDM-Coga

It would have been the 2014 1st rounder if we would have made the WCF or re-signed Miller. Since neither of those things happened, it became the 2015 1st rounder.

Oh well, have fun with the 30th pick Buffalo!

oh thats already sent to Buff? Brutal. I thought it was the 2014 pick.
I dont see the point of signing Biz, when you have a guy like Porter for cheap and a better fighting in Reaves already. All he would do would do is sell Jerseys if he made the team
- DDM-Coga

Only point is to pay Biz 500k or whatever the league min a year is and get out from under Reaves multiyear deal at over a 1mm per year. Him over Porter makes no sense to me.