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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 11 @ 8:44 AM ET
Just wanted to get everyones thought on the LeSean tipgate going on. I have read things about people condeming the owner of PYT and LeSean. My thoughts are even if the service wasn't great you still leave a tip. That is how they are paid. You still ate the food, got drinks and probably whatever else you needed. I think it was more insulting leaving the .20 as a tip then not leaving anything. And I understand people saying just because he is a millionaire he doesn't have to hand out cash. I understand. But I also can't defend LeSean knowing that he is not the most reputal person either. Remember the twiiter war with his baby mama, throwing a woman off a party bus and also the times he no showed to appearances he was supposed to make.
- J35Bacher


I agree with McCoy. If service is poor, the tip will be poor. Tips are service based & the server admittedly forgot an appetizer and ignored the table after because they were rude.

20 cents is extreme, but if I know most of my salary is off gratuities, I'm going to provide excellent service.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 11 @ 8:45 AM ET
Wheeler
Pominville
AMac
Bolland
Staal
VL
Clarkson
Orpik

- PhillySportsGuy


Would you really trade Vinny straight up for Bolland?
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Sep 11 @ 8:46 AM ET
I agree with McCoy. If service is poor, the tip will be poor. Tips are service based & the server admittedly forgot an appetizer and ignored the table after because they were rude.

20 cents is extreme, but if I know most of my salary is off gratuities, I'm going to provide excellent service.

- Jsaquella


Absolutely. And, while extreme, 20 cents is also a message.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 11 @ 8:47 AM ET
Just wanted to get everyones thought on the LeSean tipgate going on. I have read things about people condeming the owner of PYT and LeSean. My thoughts are even if the service wasn't great you still leave a tip. That is how they are paid. You still ate the food, got drinks and probably whatever else you needed. I think it was more insulting leaving the .20 as a tip then not leaving anything. And I understand people saying just because he is a millionaire he doesn't have to hand out cash. I understand. But I also can't defend LeSean knowing that he is not the most reputal person either. Remember the twiiter war with his baby mama, throwing a woman off a party bus and also the times he no showed to appearances he was supposed to make.
- J35Bacher


They were both wrong. McCoy should have left a tip and the owner shouldn't have posted the receipt.

I've had friends who have been to PYT and they said the food is average and the service is horrible unless you're friends with the server.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 11 @ 8:47 AM ET
Just wanted to get everyones thought on the LeSean tipgate going on. I have read things about people condeming the owner of PYT and LeSean. My thoughts are even if the service wasn't great you still leave a tip. That is how they are paid. You still ate the food, got drinks and probably whatever else you needed. I think it was more insulting leaving the .20 as a tip then not leaving anything. And I understand people saying just because he is a millionaire he doesn't have to hand out cash. I understand. But I also can't defend LeSean knowing that he is not the most reputal person either. Remember the twiiter war with his baby mama, throwing a woman off a party bus and also the times he no showed to appearances he was supposed to make.
- J35Bacher

The fact that this is a national story is disheartening. That's what I think.

Who (frank)ing cares. People get stiffed every day and it doesn't make the news.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 11 @ 8:47 AM ET
Would you really trade Vinny straight up for Bolland?
- Feanor


Yes. Bolland is still an effective player. He's just grossly overpaid.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 11 @ 8:49 AM ET
I agree with McCoy. If service is poor, the tip will be poor. Tips are service based & the server admittedly forgot an appetizer and ignored the table after because they were rude.

20 cents is extreme, but if I know most of my salary is off gratuities, I'm going to provide excellent service.

- Jsaquella

Also, this.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 11 @ 8:49 AM ET
I agree with McCoy. If service is poor, the tip will be poor. Tips are service based & the server admittedly forgot an appetizer and ignored the table after because they were rude.

20 cents is extreme, but if I know most of my salary is off gratuities, I'm going to provide excellent service.

- Jsaquella


I worked in the food industry during college so I have an appreciation for them. Ive never had horrible service before. I always tip 20% and if I know the servers or owner, I will tip more.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Sep 11 @ 8:53 AM ET
Absolutely. And, while extreme, 20 cents is also a message.
- tangent_man



So .20 is a message? I just find it more insulting that between 3 people that is what they thought was a good message at the table. 20% on the bill would have been a little over 12 dollars. You couldn't have made the message with say just a 5 dollar tip? I think .20 is more being an ass then sending a message. Also what about the others at the table. If they got their whole meals and everything was right then they couldn't throw some cash down?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Sep 11 @ 8:56 AM ET
I worked in the food industry during college so I have an appreciation for them. Ive never had horrible service before. I always tip 20% and if I know the servers or owner, I will tip more.
- PhillySportsGuy


So was I. If LeSen wanted to send a message then not going back would have been fine. Leaving an insulting tip is something an immature college student would do. I find it disheartening that people just don't have any common sense or curtisy anymre. Also there were three others at the table. What is there excuse for not leaving tips.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 11 @ 8:59 AM ET
So .20 is a message? I just find it more insulting that between 3 people that is what they thought was a good message at the table. 20% on the bill would have been a little over 12 dollars. You couldn't have made the message with say just a 5 dollar tip? I think .20 is more being an ass then sending a message. Also what about the others at the table. If they got their whole meals and everything was right then they couldn't throw some cash down?
- J35Bacher

Why are you so worked up over this bro
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Sep 11 @ 9:02 AM ET
Why are you so worked up over this bro
- Giroux_Is_God


Not worked up. Just talking about somthing in the news. I was in food service for pleanty of years and I guess i am shocked how people seem to think being a Richard is perfectly fine if it sends a mssage.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 11 @ 9:03 AM ET
Not worked up. Just talking about somthing in the news. I was in food service for pleanty of years and I guess i am shocked how people seem to think being a Richard is perfectly fine if it sends a mssage.
- J35Bacher

Steve Ott does it
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Sep 11 @ 9:07 AM ET
Not worked up. Just talking about somthing in the news. I was in food service for pleanty of years and I guess i am shocked how people seem to think being a Richard is perfectly fine if it sends a mssage.
- J35Bacher


And ignoring a table because you don't like their demeanor isn't Richard-ish? Sorry, but if you don't feel like doing your job, you don't deserve a reward.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 11 @ 9:22 AM ET
Yes. Bolland is still an effective player. He's just grossly overpaid.
- PhillySportsGuy


He's also even more injury prone than Vinny. In the last five seasons Bolland has only played in 234 games out of 376.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 11 @ 9:38 AM ET
And ignoring a table because you don't like their demeanor isn't Richard-ish? Sorry, but if you don't feel like doing your job, you don't deserve a reward.
- tangent_man

+1

f Rob
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Sep 11 @ 9:43 AM ET
You aren't entitled to a tip if you do a poopty job, I don't care how bad the food service industry is.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 11 @ 1:01 PM ET
Not worked up. Just talking about somthing in the news. I was in food service for pleanty of years and I guess i am shocked how people seem to think being a Richard is perfectly fine if it sends a mssage.
- J35Bacher


The reverse is, after providing poor service, a server expecting a tip.

I generally over tip. I give at least 20-25%, as long as the service is decent. If a server does exceptional, I'll tip even more. But if the service is bad, slow or if I have to hunt down the server, that will be reflected in the tip.
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