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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 10 @ 5:00 PM ET
Oops, he's at 1.
- Tomahawk


It's best to worst.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 10 @ 5:00 PM ET
No sarcasm.
- Tomahawk


So you think his contract is the best of those 8? Wow. I'm honestly confused as to why.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 10 @ 5:01 PM ET
So you think his contract is the best of those 8? Wow. I'm honestly confused as to why.
- jmatchett383


Ah, reverse it. Reading comprehension = zero.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 10 @ 5:10 PM ET
The speculation that the Isles should get better because the kids are a year older, as well as addition by subtraction of Andrew MacDonald?
- bradleyc4


Bourne's an Isles fan and he knows that team inside and out -- I tend to trust his opinion anyway, but for anything Isles he might as well be Carl Sagan.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 10 @ 5:14 PM ET
It's all circumstantial. None of us truly know to what extent they have used analytics.
- MJL

So then how do you know that NHL teams are years ahead of what the public sees, and have been collecting stats for years?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 10 @ 5:15 PM ET
So then how do you know that NHL teams are years ahead of what the public sees, and have been collecting them for years?
- Giroux_Is_God


That sounds like a bunch of heresay to me. Very circumstantial. I refuse to believe anything I read unless it can be backed up by video evidence, signed, dated, notorized documents, and separate sworn statements from no less than 5 people with first-hand knowledge of the question at hand.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Sep 10 @ 5:23 PM ET
That sounds like a bunch of heresay to me. Very circumstantial. I refuse to believe anything I read unless it can be backed up by video evidence, signed, dated, notorized documents, and separate sworn statements from no less than 5 people with first-hand knowledge of the question at hand.
- jmatchett383


I don't believe you.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 10 @ 5:26 PM ET
So then how do you know that NHL teams are years ahead of what the public sees, and have been collecting stats for years?
- Giroux_Is_God


Actually I don't know for a fact. Because teams are reluctant to talk in detail of how they use analytics. But the same circumstantial evidence of comments made by NHL insiders such as Bob McKenzie, and from coaches and GM's leads me to believe that is so.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 10 @ 5:32 PM ET
Actually I don't know for a fact. Because teams are reluctant to talk in detail of how they use analytics. But the same circumstantial evidence of comments made by NHL insiders such as Bob McKenzie, and from coaches and GM's leads me to believe that is so.
- MJL

So we're presenting something as a fact, when it (in fact) is not?

Aren't you vehemently against that?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Sep 10 @ 5:35 PM ET
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 10 @ 5:39 PM ET
So we're presenting something as a fact, when it (in fact) is not?

Aren't you vehemently against that?

- Giroux_Is_God



Irrelevant to the conversation. You can view how I presented something anyway you want. I don't care.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Sep 10 @ 5:40 PM ET
So we're presenting something as a fact, when it (in fact) is not?

Aren't you vehemently against that?

- Giroux_Is_God



Look pal, we can't even agree on the meanings of "completely", "literally", and "blindly" and now you have the infernal gall to bring out a world like "vehemently"?


How dare you?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Sep 10 @ 5:43 PM ET
Irrelevant to the conversation. You can view how I presented something anyway you want. I don't care.
- MJL

would you say you completely don't care?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Sep 10 @ 5:50 PM ET
So we're presenting something as a fact, when it (in fact) is not?

Aren't you vehemently against that?

- Giroux_Is_God

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 10 @ 5:55 PM ET
Irrelevant to the conversation. You can view how I presented something anyway you want. I don't care.
- MJL



k
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 10 @ 5:55 PM ET
Look pal, we can't even agree on the meanings of "completely", "literally", and "blindly" and now you have the infernal gall to bring out a world like "vehemently"?


How dare you?

- Doc_Sarcasm

I did gud on the SATs
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 10 @ 5:58 PM ET

- BulliesPhan87

Oh, you most most strenuously object? Is that how it works?

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 10 @ 6:05 PM ET


k

- Giroux_Is_God


If you want to discuss analytics, opinions on how teams are using them, or any other related subject, I'd be glad to do so. But not interested in nonsense such as discussing how in your view I presented a post. That has nothing to do with the conversation.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Sep 10 @ 6:31 PM ET
I don't believe you.
- 77rams


Why not
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Sep 10 @ 8:22 PM ET
After 1

Rouyn-Noranda - 1
Val-d'Or - 0

Aubé-Kubel

Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Sep 10 @ 8:31 PM ET
From best to worst, how would you rate these current contracts:

Jordan Staal - 26 years old, 9 years remaining at $6M/season
Blake Wheeler - 28 years old, 5 years remaining at $5.6M/season
Jason Pominville - 31 years old, 5 years remaining at $5.6M/seasonBrooks Orpik - 33 years old, 5 years remaining at $5.5M/season
Dave Bolland - 28 years old, 5 years remaining at $5.5M/season
David Clarkson = 30 years old, 5 years remaining at $5.25M/season
Andrew MacDonald - 28 years old, 6 years remaining at $5M/season
Vincent Lecavalier - 34 years old, 4 years remaining at $4.5M/season

- jmatchett383


Bolland
Clarkson
Orpik
MacDonald
Lecavalier
Staal
Wheeler
Pominville

EDIT: WORST TO BEST I'M DSYLEXIC
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 10 @ 8:50 PM ET
Bolland
Clarkson
Orpik
MacDonald
Lecavalier
Staal
Wheeler
Pominville

EDIT: WORST TO BEST I'M DSYLEXIC

- Streit2ThePoint

vinny's deal isn't bad jesus christ
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 10 @ 9:06 PM ET

- BulliesPhan87

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 10 @ 9:13 PM ET
vinny's deal isn't bad jesus christ
- 2Real


Yeah, it's worse than bad, unless last season was a hiccup. If last season was the start of a full on downward trend, it'll be (frank)ing horrible.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Sep 10 @ 9:14 PM ET
After 2

Rouyn-Noranda - 1
Val-d'Or - 1

No points for Aubé-Kubel
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