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bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 1 @ 12:34 PM ET
Why is it so complicated to understand?
All these dmen cannot be used as comparable. They either were UFA, signed in the previous CBA, or too young and did not have access to arbitration.

The only 2 they can use are Yandle and Bogosian.

- fidopro



I think, after you win the Noris, all the comparables are open..
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 1 @ 12:34 PM ET
Sorry, but that's simply not the case in this situation. In some arbitration cases, yes it is. In this one, it isn't.
- hscesq


And how would you know? Not to be rude, but come on. The only difference between this and other arbitration hearings is the profile/calibre of player, which makes it even more important that the Habs do their best to save cash, because there's so much more of it at stake.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Aug 1 @ 12:35 PM ET
That's what they do for bloggers here.
- hscesq

I didn't realize you started blogging too, congrats man
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Aug 1 @ 12:35 PM ET
How so?
- deadpoulet

Well you see, PK is in a differ....

...ah, nevermind.

THEY'RE RIPPING HIM TO SHREDS!!! SHREDS I TELLS YA!
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Aug 1 @ 12:35 PM ET
And the refs lol
- DoubleDown

Good one!

Now take it like a man.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 1 @ 12:35 PM ET
Play say the exact same thing in a different way...again...
- TouenneTiiTree


Give it time. I will.
Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Aug 1 @ 12:36 PM ET
My were sensitive
TouenneTiiTree
Location: #effetjulien
Joined: 05.22.2012

Aug 1 @ 12:37 PM ET
Give it time. I will.
- BINGO!


I know. If you didn't, you wouldn't be doing your job properly.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Aug 1 @ 12:37 PM ET
And how would you know? Not to be rude, but come on. The only difference between this and other arbitration hearings is the profile/calibre of player, which makes it even more important that the Habs do their best to save cash, because there's so much more of it at stake.
- BINGO!

I agree, but with the exact opposite theory. The difference is the caliber of the player, and so that is the reason why they will NOT rip him in this hearing. They want to sign him long term and that is their ultimate goal, but they won't cut off their nose to spite their face, and risk losing that opportunity.
TouenneTiiTree
Location: #effetjulien
Joined: 05.22.2012

Aug 1 @ 12:37 PM ET
My were sensitive
- Gary_B.



Your what? balls? ass cheeks?
AGalchenyuk27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , YT
Joined: 02.05.2013

Aug 1 @ 12:37 PM ET
Well you see, PK is in a differ....

...ah, nevermind.

THEY'RE RIPPING HIM TO SHREDS!!! SHREDS I TELLS YA!

- hscesq

getting skull(frank)ed

/JoeStar
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Aug 1 @ 12:37 PM ET
I highly doubt Montreal is ripping Subban. There's nothing to gain by "winning" this process and Bergevin knows that.
- DoubleDown

If MB is trying to justify the 5.25 offer he's going to have too is what I'm saying, he may not be but he's not really justifying his offer then.
AGalchenyuk27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , YT
Joined: 02.05.2013

Aug 1 @ 12:38 PM ET
My were sensitive
- Gary_B.

hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Aug 1 @ 12:39 PM ET
If MB is trying to justify the 5.25 offer he's going to have too is what I'm saying, he may not be but he's not really justifying his offer then.
- Yeti1181

No.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Aug 1 @ 12:39 PM ET
My were sensitive
- Gary_B.

They were?
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Aug 1 @ 12:40 PM ET
They were?
- hscesq



It was a fill in the blank.

My ____ were sensitive.
Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Aug 1 @ 12:40 PM ET
If MB is trying to justify the 5.25 offer he's going to have too is what I'm saying, he may not be but he's not really justifying his offer then.
- Yeti1181


Right but the point is that he has nothing to gain by trying to justify his offer. Frankly I don't even know how he could justify that offer. All he would do is further alienate PK. I know we're all questioning his competence right now but he's not an idiot. He's not going to sit there and rip Subban. He knows 5.25 is nonsensical.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Aug 1 @ 12:43 PM ET
Right but the point is that he has nothing to gain by trying to justify his offer. Frankly I don't even know how he could justify that offer. All he would do is further alienate PK. I know we're all questioning his competence right now but he's not an idiot. He's not going to sit there and rip Subban. He knows 5.25 is nonsensical.
- Gary_B.


And 8.5M is okay?!? The answer is probably in the middle, around 7M.
3M
Location: Antigua
Joined: 06.30.2009

Aug 1 @ 12:43 PM ET
My were sensitive
- Gary_B.


We're.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Aug 1 @ 12:44 PM ET
No.
- hscesq

IM not quite sure why you guys think MB is going to handle this so different then what seems like every GM has before. Its the nature of the business unfortunately.
TouenneTiiTree
Location: #effetjulien
Joined: 05.22.2012

Aug 1 @ 12:44 PM ET
hey guys, which micro-brews are you having this weekend?

Any baseball news?

Anyone hit the links lately?

I'm BBQing steak tonight...anyone have a kick ass recipe they'd like to share?
Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Aug 1 @ 12:45 PM ET
And 8.5M is okay?!? The answer is probably in the middle, around 7M.
- fidopro


8.5 million is more ok than 5.25
And do you really think Marc Bergevin's main concern is PK's 2014-15 cap hit? It's insignificant in the big picture.
3M
Location: Antigua
Joined: 06.30.2009

Aug 1 @ 12:46 PM ET
hey guys, which micro-brews are you having this weekend?

Any baseball news?

Anyone hit the links lately?

I'm BBQing steak tonight...anyone have a kick ass recipe they'd like to share?

- TouenneTiiTree


1. Scotch, not micro brew.
2. I tweeted the Jays a couple weeks ago to stop sucking taint, and suggested they rip off a winning streak or risk flushing the season. Since then they've gone 11-2. I am a demotivational sage.
3. No.
4. No.
Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Aug 1 @ 12:46 PM ET
IM not quite sure why you guys think MB is going to handle this so different then what seems like every GM has before. Its the nature of the business unfortunately.
- Yeti1181


Because most guys who go to arbitration haven't had PK's pedigree. It's pretty simple. Look at the list of guys who filed this year.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Aug 1 @ 12:46 PM ET
Right but the point is that he has nothing to gain by trying to justify his offer. Frankly I don't even know how he could justify that offer. All he would do is further alienate PK. I know we're all questioning his competence right now but he's not an idiot. He's not going to sit there and rip Subban. He knows 5.25 is nonsensical.
- Gary_B.

No he doesn't I bang on but why did he low ball it so much if he had no intention of backing up. These don't work like regular negotiations where you try and find middle ground, you are trying to win your case to justify the amount.
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